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skyyequake · 15/09/2016 16:34

I have no idea what I'm expecting to get from posting here, so I guess that I'll just tell the story and you can just shake me/comment whatever you think

When I met DP he was wonderful, we clicked straight away, had lots of laughs and he seemed really down to earth and wonderful. We quickly started spending most of out time together (I worked PT but with lots of overtime, he was unemployed) All my friends had gone off on their second year of uni around this time and so I wasn't spending time with anyone other than him. I was 20, he was 22.

Anyway, I guess I kind of got lost in that world without many outside influences and before I knew it (far too soon and before I really had time for my thoughts to catch up with me) we were engaged and I was pregnant. (I was happy about being pregnant and I wasn't forced into it)

The first time we had a disagreement was about me texting my friend (who was male) he said I was texting and felt like I was more engrossed in my phone than on our time together. I disagreed but compromised and agreed to text less. This quickly dwindled into not texting at all due to DPs sulking every time I sent a single text.

The next time I heard from my friend was when he sent out a mass Christmas text, I replied and we got talking. I mention I was pregnant and he congratulated me. It was at this point that DP went mental because I was smiling at my phone (because I was excited about pregnancy) and I apparently gave him a "look" which meant I must be flirting/cheating or something. I told him I could talk to whoever I liked and this just seemed to confirm to him that I was doing something dodgy. We had a massive argument. He told me I had no self-respect (I had been completely honest about my sexual history). This was the first time he pushed me to break down in tears.

Over my pregnancy, we had a ton of arguments where he would blow up and tell me I was lazy, stupid, naive, etc telling me that he was just trying to make me a "better person". I can't count the amount of times he left me in the bedroom balling my eyes out, cradling my bump and apologising for bringing her into such crap.

During my first trimester I had really bad morning sickness which left me feeling nauseous all of the time, I could barely sleep, and I was still working PT on a shop floor so on my feet all shift. It left me feeling depressed and exhausted. He would complain to me that we weren't having sex, because it made him feel like I didn't care about/love him anymore. One time we were in the middle of doing some sexual stuff and I suddenly had to dart out of the room to literally go and throw up in the toilet. When I got back he was sulking because "it didn't make him feel very wanted"

After DD was born, DP had to go away for a couple of days to paint up and move us into our new flat (we were in a shared house before). It was supposed to be a couple of days and I was in hospital for 3, when he still wasn't done I went to stay with my DGM. It took him (and family members) 3 weeks to complete it. When I would get frustrated that he would give me a "done by" date and then on that day say that they were nowhere near finished, he would yell down the phone at me that he was stressed and exhausted (I was looking after a newborn essentially on my own, whilst DGM did what she could she was nearly 80 at the time).

DGM overheard some of this, and when I told him that he was just stressed etc, she told me to never let him get up with the baby at night, as it only takes one time of anger for him to do something. He's never laid a hand on DD (now 14 months) but I always keep that in the back of my head.

Since we subsequently moved into our flat, DP has left basically everything up to me. He never did night feeds, rarely did nappies, hardly ever did any cleaning/housework. I was left with PND and when we argued he would corner me (although he denies this) and yell in my face whilst I was holding DD. Sometimes he would force me to give her to him, I would resist at first but then give in for fear he would try and snatch her off me and hurt her. Then he would continue screaming at me whilst he held her. He would continue to call me a lazy, naive little girl and would tell me that he had to break me down from what I was in order to build me back up again, and that at least now I had some self-respect.

In between all this he would be lovely. He would apologise for things he had said, citing anger problems as the reason. He said that he didn't mean anything he said during anger, even when I pointed out that that surely is what he's really thinking and he'd just done away with his filter. He denies this.

We broke up earlier this year for three months. It was always temporary, until he proved that he could step up and do his share of housework and childcare. After that amount of time he really seemed to have changed and so I (stupidly) let him back.

Almost immediately he began to fall backwards and has become more and more difficult to try and talk to about it. Telling me I'm nagging/moaning/"the only one who hasn't changed is you". This culminated last night when he accused me of not cleaning to "the same standard he can" and that when I was on my own with DD my "standard of hygiene was unlivable" (I spoke to my NDN today, who was around a lot during that time, she said there was nothing wrong with the cleanliness of my home)

He has also told me on occasion that I'm not really Bi, because you can only be gay and straight, and that it doesn't matter anyway because I'm with him so sexuality is irrelevant. He's also suggested that I'm more likely to cheat on him because I'm Bi.

I have no friends left, I don't know if my dad will understand how bad it is (he usually has excuses for him), and my DGM died in June. I'm NC with my mum, and I have no one left except my NDN who is lovely and probably the only reason I haven't gone insane.

I don't know if I can get him to leave again. The only reason he left before was because I got him to think it was his idea, he won't make that mistake again.

I keep telling him that I want the person I met back, but I don't think that person exists anymore, if they ever did.

Sorry for any typos and that this is so long.

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skyyequake · 04/10/2016 08:13

Argh I am never commenting on DDs sleeping patterns again. She's clearly psychic and she likes proving me wrong! She was up for a bottle twice last night and was generally being miserable. I didn't get to bed till gone 2, probably even later I didn't check the time!

So now I'm completely knackered... But DD has perked up this morning so I think cold is almost gone from her!

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GiddyOnZackHunt · 04/10/2016 09:30

Typical. They leave you on your knees and then they're full of beans. Grin
Sorry for drawing you into the curse of hope Brew

skyyequake · 04/10/2016 09:41

Haha that's ok I should know better by now!

My DGM was religious, and she used to say that she swore DC were tests from God, and that each one was specifically designed to push their parents buttons and drive then to complete distraction Grin

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GiddyOnZackHunt · 04/10/2016 10:22

I'm not religious but your dgm was right. It's genetics' big joke.
How my parents laugh. I can see I deserve dd but what did I do to get ds when he's so like my db and hence I've lived that once already Grin

skyyequake · 04/10/2016 10:53

haha my uncle has a DD exactly like my aunt (his DSis) and it's driving him nutty Grin

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skyyequake · 04/10/2016 14:25

So I've been feeling a little anger and bitterness creep up on me lately. I hate that he can go off and think he's done nothing wrong. I know talking to him is a waste of time and energy, so I've decided to write it out in letter format. Obviously I can't show it to him or I'll dredge up a whole host of issues and that won't help DD. Only I'm not the type who can write it up and save it away/delete it and everything is fine. I need it to be heard by someone. And you guys are someone! So I thought I would write it down on here if you don't mind. This might get long, so don't feel like you have to read it, but if you do you might want to brace yourself!!

Dear XP,

I hate you. There you go, I said it. You've been trying to get me to say it so that you can feel secure in your victim role, so there you go. I hate you. I hate you so much that I feel sick to my stomach with it. It feels like a raging monster inside me that wants to break free and so it can scream and shout and rage and rage and rage. But what makes it worse, is that the only reason it's there, the only reason I feel all this hatred and anger is because I loved you. It's a fine line between love and hate, and you pushed me over that line. All the energy I put into loving you, trying to help you, trying to understand you, trying to change who I was to make it easier for you; all that energy is now put into hating you. And it's all your fault.

You heard me, it's all your fault. I know I said I didn't want to play the blame game, and that's true. I don't want a backwards and forwards about who did what bit wrong, but you should know that all of this is your fault. You treated me like the dirt under your shoe, and expected me to care for you. You belittled me and called me names, and expected me to be affectionate with you. You pestered me for sex, groped me when I was touched out, wanted me to leave DD unsupervised so that you, and only you, could get off. Then you sulked when I didn't want to have sex with you anymore. You used everything I said against me, and expected me to open up to you. You questioned me every time I did anything for myself, and expected me to support you unconditionally. You mocked my interests, and expected me to be interested in your playstation games. You left all of DDs care to me, then resented me for having a closer bond with her. You left all the housework to me, and thought you could come and criticise whenever you liked.

You expected me to "fix" my end of the relationship, but my end was the only end. You expected everything, whilst giving nothing. How dare you have the arrogance to take everything from me and then demand more. How dare you run me into the ground and then tell me I'm not trying hard enough. How dare you accuse me of not making an effort whilst you never lifted a finger.

I did everything for you, and it was never good enough. I was never good enough. I know you've gone through life, and will continue to do so, thinking that girls have left you because they've cheated, or lied, or don't want to put in the effort. I'm here to tell you that that's not true. It's because you are a small-minded, entitled, selfish, manipulative, controlling, victim-blaming, cunt. Yeah you heard me: you're a cunt.

No wonder the people at work hate you if you're this much of an arrogant prick to them too. It amazes me that you can't see how far your head is up your arse. It's disgusting.

I hate you. And I hate that I hate you. Because hate is toxic, and you've poisoned me with it. I long for the day that I feel nothing towards you at all. I long for the day that I can look at you without wanting to rip your eyes out. I long for the day where I can just feel sorry for your sad, pathetic existence.

I hope to God, Karma, the Universe, whoever will listen, that you will fuck off back under the rock you crawled out from, because our daughter deserves so, so, so much better than you could ever offer. I will spend the rest of my life attempting to give her that, and more, to make up for my appalling choice in her father. You don't deserve her. Now I know why your ex took your other daughter away and I really don't blame her.

Just so you know, me and DD are much, much happier without you. And once I get this vile hatred out of my system we will be happier still. The only thing of value you have ever given me, was the single sperm it took to make DD. We don't need you. We have never needed you.

I know all you know how to feel is anger, and now you've infected me with it. But I will move past it, and I will be stronger, much stronger than you. You're a coward and I won't let you bully me anymore.

Hope you have a shitty life,

Skyye

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tiredvommachine · 04/10/2016 15:12

FUCKING AWESOME LETTER!!!

BRAVO!!!!Flowers

hellsbellsmelons · 04/10/2016 15:38

Wow. I seem to have something in my eye!
Well written.
It must feel good to get that out.
It will help you move past the hatred.
It takes time though
But you are fab and awesome and friggin' fantastic.
Keep going!

glad2016 · 04/10/2016 15:55

De lurking to say AWESOME LETTER! Well done Skye

skyyequake · 04/10/2016 16:24

Thanks guys! Blush

Oh wow I have lurkers on my thread? That's pretty cool... Lurkers you should come say hi! Grin

It does feel good to get it out, even if its just the beginning of moving on.

Do you know what he said to me when he picked DD up on Saturday?

"This is hurting me more than its hurting you."

I felt like punching him.

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Mix56 · 04/10/2016 16:50

He deserves his "unhappiness", let him wallow in it. pathetic little jerk.

GiddyOnZackHunt · 04/10/2016 16:58

WANKERRRRRRRR! (Him obvs)
That's a very coherent put down of great spendidness Grin

skyyequake · 04/10/2016 17:00

Aww you guys are great Grin Wine

I think I would have actually gone dotty if it wasn't for you lot

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FantasticButtocks · 04/10/2016 18:12

Your true feelings. Very well expressed. I bet it was cathartic, writing it.

I know you've said you won't, but do NOT be tempted to send it. It would be used against you in some way by him, shown to DD one day perhaps, and it would be giving too much of yourself to him. Good exercise though, good to get it all out there! Burn it and stomp on its ashes or something Grin

skyyequake · 04/10/2016 18:25

Nope not gonna send it! I can already hear the obnoxious response so I don't really need to send it! Grin I've tried talking to him till I was blue in the face I refuse to do it anymore. He gets plain and simple answers unless its something we have to discuss regarding DD... He is unreasonable and therefore I will not attempt to reason with him!

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hellsbellsmelons · 04/10/2016 18:41

I'm sure he does actually think he's hurting more than you.
That's a narc for you.
Selfish. Self centred arseholes.
Just thank your lucky stars he's gone.

Yourarejokingme · 04/10/2016 18:47

you go girl!!!

I'm also a lurker to, have been following yours, nocapes and ikea threads as they remind me of a past I wish I never had to live but if I can tell my story I shall to help others.

Hidingtonothing · 04/10/2016 18:55

OMFG Sky your letter is awesome Grin It says a lot about him that he's made someone as good hearted, generous and lovely feel those emotions. What a fucking idiot, he could have had it all had he only had enough brains to realise how amazing you are Flowers

skyyequake · 04/10/2016 19:17

Hiding aww you're making me blush Blush I'm not all that really...

hellsbells oh yeah he always think he's got it worse than everyone, drove me up the fucking wall. Although I am channelling my inner ice queen when I do have to see him so he's also trying to crack me so I'll say I love him and he might have another chance... Like fuck!

Hiya jokingme! Thanks for stopping by! Sorry to hear you've been through this too, you're always welcome to share on here if you feel it'll help, we're a friendly bunch! Flowers

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GiddyOnZackHunt · 04/10/2016 23:34

Star skyye Just because. :)

GabsAlot · 05/10/2016 00:01

great letter sky i coul feel all your hurt anger an sadness

hope its helped you writing it all down

EmmapausalBitch · 05/10/2016 00:22

Another lurker delurking to applaud you! Awesome letter and so impressed with all you've done in the last few weeks StarFlowers

TheVirginQueen · 05/10/2016 01:23

wow. that is a good letter. 9 years on it's what I would say calmly to my x if he ever showed any inclination to care for the real reason I left him (ie, not because I was impetuous, selfish, chaotic).

skyyequake · 05/10/2016 07:32

You guys have made me smile on want has so far been a pretty crap morning. Not for any reason, just one of those days where you really don't want to get out of bed yet and a DD who's very insistent that you do so thank you Flowers

Today is going to be a housework day. I haven't been doing much since we've both been ill. Would probably be a time were I would miss XP only I distinctly remember having to do this when he was here! Not like I would get any support when I was ill... Even though he would curl up on the sofa and act like he was terminal whenever he got a cold. Of course he "suffers very badly with colds" whereas I'm clearly making a fuss about nothing Hmm

But thank you all again its always lovely to read your positivity Brew Cake

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skyyequake · 05/10/2016 08:23

Do you think some of you could take a look at this thread please? I feel like there are alarm bells in my head but I don't have the energy to get to the bottom of it... But I don't just want to leave her if this guy is yet another CuntMonkey...

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