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skyyequake · 15/09/2016 16:34

I have no idea what I'm expecting to get from posting here, so I guess that I'll just tell the story and you can just shake me/comment whatever you think

When I met DP he was wonderful, we clicked straight away, had lots of laughs and he seemed really down to earth and wonderful. We quickly started spending most of out time together (I worked PT but with lots of overtime, he was unemployed) All my friends had gone off on their second year of uni around this time and so I wasn't spending time with anyone other than him. I was 20, he was 22.

Anyway, I guess I kind of got lost in that world without many outside influences and before I knew it (far too soon and before I really had time for my thoughts to catch up with me) we were engaged and I was pregnant. (I was happy about being pregnant and I wasn't forced into it)

The first time we had a disagreement was about me texting my friend (who was male) he said I was texting and felt like I was more engrossed in my phone than on our time together. I disagreed but compromised and agreed to text less. This quickly dwindled into not texting at all due to DPs sulking every time I sent a single text.

The next time I heard from my friend was when he sent out a mass Christmas text, I replied and we got talking. I mention I was pregnant and he congratulated me. It was at this point that DP went mental because I was smiling at my phone (because I was excited about pregnancy) and I apparently gave him a "look" which meant I must be flirting/cheating or something. I told him I could talk to whoever I liked and this just seemed to confirm to him that I was doing something dodgy. We had a massive argument. He told me I had no self-respect (I had been completely honest about my sexual history). This was the first time he pushed me to break down in tears.

Over my pregnancy, we had a ton of arguments where he would blow up and tell me I was lazy, stupid, naive, etc telling me that he was just trying to make me a "better person". I can't count the amount of times he left me in the bedroom balling my eyes out, cradling my bump and apologising for bringing her into such crap.

During my first trimester I had really bad morning sickness which left me feeling nauseous all of the time, I could barely sleep, and I was still working PT on a shop floor so on my feet all shift. It left me feeling depressed and exhausted. He would complain to me that we weren't having sex, because it made him feel like I didn't care about/love him anymore. One time we were in the middle of doing some sexual stuff and I suddenly had to dart out of the room to literally go and throw up in the toilet. When I got back he was sulking because "it didn't make him feel very wanted"

After DD was born, DP had to go away for a couple of days to paint up and move us into our new flat (we were in a shared house before). It was supposed to be a couple of days and I was in hospital for 3, when he still wasn't done I went to stay with my DGM. It took him (and family members) 3 weeks to complete it. When I would get frustrated that he would give me a "done by" date and then on that day say that they were nowhere near finished, he would yell down the phone at me that he was stressed and exhausted (I was looking after a newborn essentially on my own, whilst DGM did what she could she was nearly 80 at the time).

DGM overheard some of this, and when I told him that he was just stressed etc, she told me to never let him get up with the baby at night, as it only takes one time of anger for him to do something. He's never laid a hand on DD (now 14 months) but I always keep that in the back of my head.

Since we subsequently moved into our flat, DP has left basically everything up to me. He never did night feeds, rarely did nappies, hardly ever did any cleaning/housework. I was left with PND and when we argued he would corner me (although he denies this) and yell in my face whilst I was holding DD. Sometimes he would force me to give her to him, I would resist at first but then give in for fear he would try and snatch her off me and hurt her. Then he would continue screaming at me whilst he held her. He would continue to call me a lazy, naive little girl and would tell me that he had to break me down from what I was in order to build me back up again, and that at least now I had some self-respect.

In between all this he would be lovely. He would apologise for things he had said, citing anger problems as the reason. He said that he didn't mean anything he said during anger, even when I pointed out that that surely is what he's really thinking and he'd just done away with his filter. He denies this.

We broke up earlier this year for three months. It was always temporary, until he proved that he could step up and do his share of housework and childcare. After that amount of time he really seemed to have changed and so I (stupidly) let him back.

Almost immediately he began to fall backwards and has become more and more difficult to try and talk to about it. Telling me I'm nagging/moaning/"the only one who hasn't changed is you". This culminated last night when he accused me of not cleaning to "the same standard he can" and that when I was on my own with DD my "standard of hygiene was unlivable" (I spoke to my NDN today, who was around a lot during that time, she said there was nothing wrong with the cleanliness of my home)

He has also told me on occasion that I'm not really Bi, because you can only be gay and straight, and that it doesn't matter anyway because I'm with him so sexuality is irrelevant. He's also suggested that I'm more likely to cheat on him because I'm Bi.

I have no friends left, I don't know if my dad will understand how bad it is (he usually has excuses for him), and my DGM died in June. I'm NC with my mum, and I have no one left except my NDN who is lovely and probably the only reason I haven't gone insane.

I don't know if I can get him to leave again. The only reason he left before was because I got him to think it was his idea, he won't make that mistake again.

I keep telling him that I want the person I met back, but I don't think that person exists anymore, if they ever did.

Sorry for any typos and that this is so long.

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Littlelostdinosaur · 17/09/2016 06:38

Sky I'm sorry you and your dd are dealing with this. If you're ready to tell him to leave, maybe the best way if you fear violence is to wait until he goes to work, then pack some things up, lock the doors and tell him not to come back once he is already out. Get the locks changed immediately and tell the police. have someone with you when he is due home so you aren't alone when inevitably he comes back trying to change your mind.
There is a new law which now makes an offence of "coercive and controlling behaviour". If you wanted to you could report that and he would have to be dealt with - it may not necessarily lead to arrest or charge or conviction but it would put him on the police radar as an abuser and support you down the line if there is ever further ea or violence and also if there's any problem with child access etc.

You could seek a restraining order, if he was charged by police that could do this for you otherwise you need to seek legal advice.

Are you financially dependent on him? I do t know much about the benefits dude if things but there are emergency funds available if you need them in your situation. Please please call women's aid and get specific advice on how to proceed. It sounds like you have the realisation and mentality to leave, you just need the execution.

I know you e been on capes' thread - do a capes and be that inspiration to someone reading this thread - do a Sky and get the shitworm out of your house whilst you still have the strength and belief in yourself.

You don't need him.
You will be better off without him.
He is an abuser. He is not the man you wanted. There are people in the world who will cherish you. It's time to find them xxx

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GabsAlot · 17/09/2016 11:07

hi skye

saw you posting on the other threa though id come over

y0u have the benefit of the house being in your name so u can legally tell him to go and like someone else said just change the locks when hes at work

u dont have to let him back in again-hes trying to isolate u from everyone

and did u know emotional abuse is now illegal telling u what to do with your phone etc is now against the law

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Lynnm63 · 17/09/2016 12:59

Sorry I missed this and so glad you liked it to nocapes thread.
You know what you need to do. You've seen firsthand this week with nocapes. The pp who said pack his stuff while he's at work, get a friend or perhaps your ndn to be with you when he's due home and if he won't go dial 999.
You can do this and we will be here all the way for you too.

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Lynnm63 · 17/09/2016 13:00

Linked not liked I must proofread before I post. I'm supervising dd tidying her skip bedroom

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Chinnygirl · 17/09/2016 13:11

You know you need to leave him. Now make steps to do so. Speak to NDN. Call womans aid. Get your NDN to help you get information that you need. Believe in yourself, you have come so far.

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skyyequake · 17/09/2016 13:25

I cant reply much over the weekend, he gets very funny about me being on MN (wonder why Hmm Grin) but thank you for your responses and advice and support...

He is being overly nice today, I think he senses I have had enough... I will try to be strong... I need to get through this weekend before I can do anything

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theansweris42 · 17/09/2016 13:49

OP I agree with PP who said think what DGM would say. She'd want you and DD out of this.
He is emotionally abusing you. I understand you can't do much this very weekend but maybe try and find the safe place in your own mind. Start to pause before you react, be boring, non committal, pleasant.
And think (cos he cannot monitor that!) about what your life will be without emotional abuse.
Loads of us have been where you are and we're here for you Flowers

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FeckTheMagicDragon · 17/09/2016 14:00

That's ok Sky - float through the weekend, nod and smile, keep your thoughts to yourself. Until he's back at work Monday. Feign a bit of a headache, you're coming down with something, you think.

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NoCapes · 17/09/2016 14:20

That's fine, use this weekend to mentally prepare yourself
Start picturing your life without him, think of the steps you'll take to get there when you're ready
A little bit of breathing and thinking time sounds like just what you need anyway

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hermione2016 · 17/09/2016 15:20

This is a seriously abusive man.You young and don't have to tolerate it.

When he left last time where did he go? There are ways out of this, definitely tell your gp and HV as it will help with contact later on.

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skyyequake · 17/09/2016 22:31

Haven't gotten the chance to write a full reply but I will tomorrow... I am reading everything though so just a quick thanks Wine

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FeckTheMagicDragon · 18/09/2016 02:04

Post here when you can - and keep us updated. Use it as a journal of sorts to help you keep your thoughts clear.

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EttaJ · 18/09/2016 02:16

I can't add to the excellent advice you have had but yes ,you are being horribly abused. He sounds absolutely vile. Please take the advice given and get rid of him. 💐

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overthehillandroundthemountain · 18/09/2016 03:21

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PGPsabitch · 18/09/2016 12:12

Stay strong and contact women's aid.

Just imagine your dd having a partner like this, what you would say and do. This isn't a good relationship, it's abusive and he's unpredictable enough to keep you always worried. That's no life.

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skyyequake · 18/09/2016 12:43

He's in the bath now so I have time to do a full reply without 21 questions

For those asking, finance isn't an issue, he is the sole earner but I know exactly what I need to do re benefits etc because I did it all last time! I'm not worried about being financially unable to cope... he's tried to tell me I wouldn't manage on my own because of money but I know I can make it work

hermione Last time he went to his friends mums house... She seems nice although I've only ever spoken to her over the phone, however she has custody of her 5yo DGS as well as her own 12yo DS... both boys have behaviour problems and get very violent (don't blame them they've been through a lot of shit) and I don't want DD over there... He did hate it there because of how the kids were, I think if he left again he'd go to his DBs which isn't as bad...

He's being overly nice this weekend, but I feel like I can see the cracks now... His act isn't perfect

I'd like to rehash the point that the earlier form of abuse, ie the yelling, overtly controlling, has mostly stopped. I think he knows I'm not going to stand for it so he's gone very underhanded... He did slip up the other night and called me a waste of space. I could almost see him mentally scold himself for slipping up and it reaffirmed to me that that is the real him and it lies under all the pretense...

I've spent most of the weekend spending time with DD and when she had a nap yesterday I spent it with my headphones in and drawing... He kept asking me what was wrong and it's been so hard pretending everything is fine, I think I have it nailed today though

He told me today he was going to "make it up to me" and whilst he has been doing housework etc I feel like if he was really remorseful, and really gave a crap about how he's made me feel, he would make a lot more effort... He would be showing more feeling behind it

I think the only thing he knows how to feel is anger

I am finding my anger, it's hard when I'm so exhausted but I know that's part of his game. I had a nice coffee with my NDN yesterday, left him with DD. I read her my OP and so now she knows everything.

She agrees I should wait for my dad to come back from holiday, he's the only close family I have left, and even if he does have faults, I feel safe with him.

I honestly can't wait for him to go to work tomorrow

The only reason access is of a concern is because I know that will be his first move... To demand access and try to get control over when he can see DD

I feel like I should mention that he has another DD from a previous relationship that he doesn't have contact with. It was the mothers choice, never went to court, she just moved to a different town and blocked him on FB. He's always talking about how much he misses her and wants to see her... I believed him at the beginning, but since I've been with him he hasn't done a single thing to try and get access.

Thanks to all of you, you've made me feel so validated in my feelings... If I've missed a question or anything then please ask again, it's a lot to go through...

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GabsAlot · 18/09/2016 13:38

it is all about the control but as u say he doesnt even attempt to get access with his d why wold he with his second

if it makes u fel stronger to wait for your dad then do that

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skyyequake · 18/09/2016 13:40

he would go demand access from me, the only way I would be able to stop him would be to move away like his Ex did. I don't want to do that, this is my home town and I like it here.

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FeckTheMagicDragon · 18/09/2016 13:57

He can't have her overnight until he has a suitable place as she is only a baby and needs somewhere safe and suitable to sleep. You are her main carer - and she will miss you, and needs continuity but (and this is why you need women's aid) you cannot be present while he is there as he will abuse you in front of her. As you feel he needs to be supervised - contact center is the way he needs to go.

If he starts making unreasonable demands then he can go to court. I'm betting he won't. But again, you need to talk to women's aid. The comments about the state of the house are him setting up to paint you in a bad light. You need to forestall that. Use this thread to keep a note of everything. Try and remember and document the historical abuse.

You can do this. It will be hard, but you can.

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FeckTheMagicDragon · 18/09/2016 13:57

He can't have her overnight until he has a suitable place as she is only a baby and needs somewhere safe and suitable to sleep. You are her main carer - and she will miss you, and needs continuity but (and this is why you need women's aid) you cannot be present while he is there as he will abuse you in front of her. As you feel he needs to be supervised - contact center is the way he needs to go.

If he starts making unreasonable demands then he can go to court. I'm betting he won't. But again, you need to talk to women's aid. The comments about the state of the house are him setting up to paint you in a bad light. You need to forestall that. Use this thread to keep a note of everything. Try and remember and document the historical abuse.

You can do this. It will be hard, but you can.

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FeckTheMagicDragon · 18/09/2016 13:57

oops double post

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FeckTheMagicDragon · 18/09/2016 14:00

oh and log out and clear your history after you come off MN. I know he's not tech savvy - but just in case he decides to go have a nosey.

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skyyequake · 18/09/2016 14:18

I have logged off from my laptop... Hadn't thought to clear the history.... I might use incognito window from now on so it never logs in on the history

All he's done today is put a load of washing on and he's already been muttering under his breath... Usually I try to damage control aka helping him do basic tasks so he ends up not actually doing much himself... I'm not doing that anymore

I can tell he's pissed off, he's being very passive aggressive and I know he wants to have a go at me...

Weekends are so stressful, I feel suffocated, almost like I'm doing something wrong every time I do even the smallest thing for myself...

I feel cutoff from everyone and everything and its really pissing me off

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FeckTheMagicDragon · 18/09/2016 14:23

And breath. Get through today. Remember you are the normal one, being put under so much pressure. Let it wash over you if you can. Prepare yourself to take a step tomorrow.

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skyyequake · 18/09/2016 14:31

I will. I built myself up from a very low point before I met him, I was confident and strong. He's dragged me back down, but I can get it back...

I want to be that happy, positive person again... I want that to be the person DD knows as she grows up

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