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Where do I start?

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skyyequake · 15/09/2016 16:34

I have no idea what I'm expecting to get from posting here, so I guess that I'll just tell the story and you can just shake me/comment whatever you think

When I met DP he was wonderful, we clicked straight away, had lots of laughs and he seemed really down to earth and wonderful. We quickly started spending most of out time together (I worked PT but with lots of overtime, he was unemployed) All my friends had gone off on their second year of uni around this time and so I wasn't spending time with anyone other than him. I was 20, he was 22.

Anyway, I guess I kind of got lost in that world without many outside influences and before I knew it (far too soon and before I really had time for my thoughts to catch up with me) we were engaged and I was pregnant. (I was happy about being pregnant and I wasn't forced into it)

The first time we had a disagreement was about me texting my friend (who was male) he said I was texting and felt like I was more engrossed in my phone than on our time together. I disagreed but compromised and agreed to text less. This quickly dwindled into not texting at all due to DPs sulking every time I sent a single text.

The next time I heard from my friend was when he sent out a mass Christmas text, I replied and we got talking. I mention I was pregnant and he congratulated me. It was at this point that DP went mental because I was smiling at my phone (because I was excited about pregnancy) and I apparently gave him a "look" which meant I must be flirting/cheating or something. I told him I could talk to whoever I liked and this just seemed to confirm to him that I was doing something dodgy. We had a massive argument. He told me I had no self-respect (I had been completely honest about my sexual history). This was the first time he pushed me to break down in tears.

Over my pregnancy, we had a ton of arguments where he would blow up and tell me I was lazy, stupid, naive, etc telling me that he was just trying to make me a "better person". I can't count the amount of times he left me in the bedroom balling my eyes out, cradling my bump and apologising for bringing her into such crap.

During my first trimester I had really bad morning sickness which left me feeling nauseous all of the time, I could barely sleep, and I was still working PT on a shop floor so on my feet all shift. It left me feeling depressed and exhausted. He would complain to me that we weren't having sex, because it made him feel like I didn't care about/love him anymore. One time we were in the middle of doing some sexual stuff and I suddenly had to dart out of the room to literally go and throw up in the toilet. When I got back he was sulking because "it didn't make him feel very wanted"

After DD was born, DP had to go away for a couple of days to paint up and move us into our new flat (we were in a shared house before). It was supposed to be a couple of days and I was in hospital for 3, when he still wasn't done I went to stay with my DGM. It took him (and family members) 3 weeks to complete it. When I would get frustrated that he would give me a "done by" date and then on that day say that they were nowhere near finished, he would yell down the phone at me that he was stressed and exhausted (I was looking after a newborn essentially on my own, whilst DGM did what she could she was nearly 80 at the time).

DGM overheard some of this, and when I told him that he was just stressed etc, she told me to never let him get up with the baby at night, as it only takes one time of anger for him to do something. He's never laid a hand on DD (now 14 months) but I always keep that in the back of my head.

Since we subsequently moved into our flat, DP has left basically everything up to me. He never did night feeds, rarely did nappies, hardly ever did any cleaning/housework. I was left with PND and when we argued he would corner me (although he denies this) and yell in my face whilst I was holding DD. Sometimes he would force me to give her to him, I would resist at first but then give in for fear he would try and snatch her off me and hurt her. Then he would continue screaming at me whilst he held her. He would continue to call me a lazy, naive little girl and would tell me that he had to break me down from what I was in order to build me back up again, and that at least now I had some self-respect.

In between all this he would be lovely. He would apologise for things he had said, citing anger problems as the reason. He said that he didn't mean anything he said during anger, even when I pointed out that that surely is what he's really thinking and he'd just done away with his filter. He denies this.

We broke up earlier this year for three months. It was always temporary, until he proved that he could step up and do his share of housework and childcare. After that amount of time he really seemed to have changed and so I (stupidly) let him back.

Almost immediately he began to fall backwards and has become more and more difficult to try and talk to about it. Telling me I'm nagging/moaning/"the only one who hasn't changed is you". This culminated last night when he accused me of not cleaning to "the same standard he can" and that when I was on my own with DD my "standard of hygiene was unlivable" (I spoke to my NDN today, who was around a lot during that time, she said there was nothing wrong with the cleanliness of my home)

He has also told me on occasion that I'm not really Bi, because you can only be gay and straight, and that it doesn't matter anyway because I'm with him so sexuality is irrelevant. He's also suggested that I'm more likely to cheat on him because I'm Bi.

I have no friends left, I don't know if my dad will understand how bad it is (he usually has excuses for him), and my DGM died in June. I'm NC with my mum, and I have no one left except my NDN who is lovely and probably the only reason I haven't gone insane.

I don't know if I can get him to leave again. The only reason he left before was because I got him to think it was his idea, he won't make that mistake again.

I keep telling him that I want the person I met back, but I don't think that person exists anymore, if they ever did.

Sorry for any typos and that this is so long.

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GiddyOnZackHunt · 30/09/2016 17:18

I think you meant Thanks Gabs but I'll say "Good boots!" too :)

Glad Freedom went well. Hope this afternoon was full of cuddles :)

You're probably right about his thinly disguised enquiries :( but next week will be telling once he's got his post. See how fussed he is then.

skyyequake · 30/09/2016 18:15

Whoops sorry Gabs and Giddy I must have just seen the G and stopped reading there Blush Grin

This afternoon has been nice, DD is very funny she's currently playing with a squeezy bottle of mayo don't ask

Yes we will see won't we... I'll be seriously disappointed if that is the case, mostly for DDs sake. But part of me hopes so as a sign that he'll eventually fuck off for good and DD won't have such a crappy role model for a father. I'll go with the whole "hope for the best but prepare for the worst" way of thinking.

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ohfourfoxache · 30/09/2016 18:48

I'm really glad Freedom went well - and that you've met another MNetter! Grin

You probably don't want to think about it at the moment, but even if it happens that it IS the worst case scenario in terms of him being a shit dad, there are silver linings. Your dd has an amazing mum- she has a lot to be thankful for Thanks

skyyequake · 30/09/2016 18:55

Thank you ohfour you are very sweet!

Just my luck though, I can feel myself coming down with a cold Sad typical that I'm probably going to have to answer the door to him tomorrow full of snot...

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GiddyOnZackHunt · 30/09/2016 19:02

It's so difficult to watch dc be let down so in some ways if he is going to do that it might be better while she's still little :(

In news from here, both of mine are now out tomorrow at the same time. Which never happens at the weekend so DH and I are going to rush into a clothes shop for something for me to wear. One shop. That's my limit!

skyyequake · 30/09/2016 19:20

Exactly what I was thinking! I'd rather he pissed off now when she doesn't give a fuck doesn't understand than when she's old enough to go "why don't I see daddy anymore mummy?" Sad

Yay! Which shop are you going to choose as The One? Grin hope you find something show stopping!

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0SometimesIWonder · 30/09/2016 20:11

Been keeping up with your thread and glad you're still doing so well Skye.

Mix56 · 30/09/2016 20:45

For me when I feel an oncoming cold, I take Vit C horse pills (taken in the morning, ) honestly, the cold drops away...

skyyequake · 30/09/2016 21:11

I've taken cold&flu tablets, which usually work for me but they've barely made a dent Sad Normally I eat my way through a cold but I have no fooood... Well I do have food but it's all for meals not for snacking in front of the telly Grin

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GiddyOnZackHunt · 30/09/2016 22:20

You'll be needing new skinnier clothes at this rate with a sensible eating plan and a bike for Christmas.

Our choice on shops locally is a bit limited so I will probably pick H&M but I may end up in Dorothy Perkins! I need to check if they do 16s. Which doesn't sound awful but my tummy is huuuuge.

skyyequake · 30/09/2016 22:29

That's the idea Giddy Grin although I wouldn't call my eating plan "sensible" more just not eating my stress like I did when XP was here!!

Ooh I like H&M although I haven't really shopped in there for a while... Do Dorothy Perkins have an online shop so you can check sizes? I've got a big tummy too after DD I think that's a problem for most women after having DC tbh! I googled a bit and have found some good exercises that focus on the abs section, just need to find the motivation to actually do them now Grin

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GiddyOnZackHunt · 30/09/2016 23:34

Bizarrely after my first I lost more weight than I'd gained. After my last pregnancy I didn't more all of it. I was on medication and the weight's crept on. I now look as if I should be be borrowing Eric Bristow's shirt.*

*You may have to Google

skyyequake · 01/10/2016 06:52

Lol I did indeed have to google Grin

With DD I didn't put any weight on except my bump, afterwards everyone commented how lucky I was that I'd lost my tummy straight away and I fit into my size 10 jeans for a while. I had a bit of a saggy tummy but that was it. I don't know exactly when I started to gain weight after that but when DD was 8 months is when I really noticed it and I went up to a size 14...

How old is your youngest?

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skyyequake · 01/10/2016 10:29

What do you guys think of my tshirt choice for seeing XP later? Grin

Where do I start?
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FeckTheMagicDragon · 01/10/2016 11:13

Perfect choice Sky :)

kaitlinktm · 01/10/2016 11:22

Grin Grin Grin

GabsAlot · 01/10/2016 11:27

lol brilliant sky!

skyyequake · 01/10/2016 11:39

Thanks you guys Grin Brew Cake

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GiddyOnZackHunt · 01/10/2016 13:02

Good shirt!

Youngest is about to turn 6.

So we did a trip into Hennes. Their idea of a 16 trouser differs from mine! But it was 80s tastic in there and I got a few tops plus they had some flat Brown Chelsea boots that were exactly what I wanted for the winter. It wasn't too crowded or hot and I coped Ok.

skyyequake · 01/10/2016 13:44

Never heard of Hennes, but glad you coped ok and got some stuff you like!!

DD has gone with him again. Wasn't any easier this time.

He was full of stuff about how much he loved me and how sorry he was and he'd said a few bad things (Hmm) and that this wasn't what he wanted and he really thought we'd be together forever, etc, etc, blah blah blah.

Then he started to get sulky because I was "brushing him off like he was nothing" by which he meant I looked suitably awkward and didn't reply to it and would talk to DD instead... Because as I predicted on like page 1 or 2 he'd basically backed me into a corner where I either have to agree with him, say we might have a chance, generally hold his hand through it all, or come across as a complete bitch and tell him to piss off. So apart from the occasional pointed question ("You definitely don't want me back ever?" "No.") I basically ignored him or just said "ok". ("I really do love you." "Ok.")

He is definitely playing the victim in all this. He is admitting to doing bad stuff after I point it out to him, but in a "Oh dear I've fucked it all up oh woe is me I'm sooo sorry and I know that doesn't make a difference but I'm still going to say it and look sad in the hope that you'll be a daft enough cow to fall for it AGAIN."

He's just so full of shit and I hate having to hand DD over to him. He's going to his aunt's again though so a little peace of mind!

He didn't seem to pay any attention to the tshirt as he kept going on and on and on! More's the pity, maybe next time I need a shirt that just says "Fuck off!"

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GiddyOnZackHunt · 01/10/2016 14:08

Well played you! It really is still all about him isn't it? You're playing it straight down the middle and he must be so confused Grin

I think Hennes might be called H&M now? It was Hennes & Moritz when it first launched here but I suspect I'm showing my age again.

skyyequake · 01/10/2016 14:23

He did seem very frustrated that I wasn't giving him anything emotionally. The only concession I made was when he said that I was being cold with him and he wanted to keep things civil. I said that it was still very fresh and that it would be easier with time. Which is true. Because as time goes on I give less and less of a shit what he thinks Grin

Ah yes H&M! I did know what it stood for but I always forget Blush

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PreemptiveSalvageEngineer · 01/10/2016 14:47

What a great result, sky !! And you accomplished this with a head cold 'n all! Major snaps to you. Xmas Grin

Yes, that was an Xmas Grin - I ain't ascared of Maryz...

looks defiant<
runs and ducks

GiddyOnZackHunt · 01/10/2016 14:54

Hmm. Can you search for fgrin in brackets in AS?

PreemptiveSalvageEngineer · 01/10/2016 15:03

Let's hope not, giddy ( Xmas Grin again...)

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