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Where do I start?

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skyyequake · 15/09/2016 16:34

I have no idea what I'm expecting to get from posting here, so I guess that I'll just tell the story and you can just shake me/comment whatever you think

When I met DP he was wonderful, we clicked straight away, had lots of laughs and he seemed really down to earth and wonderful. We quickly started spending most of out time together (I worked PT but with lots of overtime, he was unemployed) All my friends had gone off on their second year of uni around this time and so I wasn't spending time with anyone other than him. I was 20, he was 22.

Anyway, I guess I kind of got lost in that world without many outside influences and before I knew it (far too soon and before I really had time for my thoughts to catch up with me) we were engaged and I was pregnant. (I was happy about being pregnant and I wasn't forced into it)

The first time we had a disagreement was about me texting my friend (who was male) he said I was texting and felt like I was more engrossed in my phone than on our time together. I disagreed but compromised and agreed to text less. This quickly dwindled into not texting at all due to DPs sulking every time I sent a single text.

The next time I heard from my friend was when he sent out a mass Christmas text, I replied and we got talking. I mention I was pregnant and he congratulated me. It was at this point that DP went mental because I was smiling at my phone (because I was excited about pregnancy) and I apparently gave him a "look" which meant I must be flirting/cheating or something. I told him I could talk to whoever I liked and this just seemed to confirm to him that I was doing something dodgy. We had a massive argument. He told me I had no self-respect (I had been completely honest about my sexual history). This was the first time he pushed me to break down in tears.

Over my pregnancy, we had a ton of arguments where he would blow up and tell me I was lazy, stupid, naive, etc telling me that he was just trying to make me a "better person". I can't count the amount of times he left me in the bedroom balling my eyes out, cradling my bump and apologising for bringing her into such crap.

During my first trimester I had really bad morning sickness which left me feeling nauseous all of the time, I could barely sleep, and I was still working PT on a shop floor so on my feet all shift. It left me feeling depressed and exhausted. He would complain to me that we weren't having sex, because it made him feel like I didn't care about/love him anymore. One time we were in the middle of doing some sexual stuff and I suddenly had to dart out of the room to literally go and throw up in the toilet. When I got back he was sulking because "it didn't make him feel very wanted"

After DD was born, DP had to go away for a couple of days to paint up and move us into our new flat (we were in a shared house before). It was supposed to be a couple of days and I was in hospital for 3, when he still wasn't done I went to stay with my DGM. It took him (and family members) 3 weeks to complete it. When I would get frustrated that he would give me a "done by" date and then on that day say that they were nowhere near finished, he would yell down the phone at me that he was stressed and exhausted (I was looking after a newborn essentially on my own, whilst DGM did what she could she was nearly 80 at the time).

DGM overheard some of this, and when I told him that he was just stressed etc, she told me to never let him get up with the baby at night, as it only takes one time of anger for him to do something. He's never laid a hand on DD (now 14 months) but I always keep that in the back of my head.

Since we subsequently moved into our flat, DP has left basically everything up to me. He never did night feeds, rarely did nappies, hardly ever did any cleaning/housework. I was left with PND and when we argued he would corner me (although he denies this) and yell in my face whilst I was holding DD. Sometimes he would force me to give her to him, I would resist at first but then give in for fear he would try and snatch her off me and hurt her. Then he would continue screaming at me whilst he held her. He would continue to call me a lazy, naive little girl and would tell me that he had to break me down from what I was in order to build me back up again, and that at least now I had some self-respect.

In between all this he would be lovely. He would apologise for things he had said, citing anger problems as the reason. He said that he didn't mean anything he said during anger, even when I pointed out that that surely is what he's really thinking and he'd just done away with his filter. He denies this.

We broke up earlier this year for three months. It was always temporary, until he proved that he could step up and do his share of housework and childcare. After that amount of time he really seemed to have changed and so I (stupidly) let him back.

Almost immediately he began to fall backwards and has become more and more difficult to try and talk to about it. Telling me I'm nagging/moaning/"the only one who hasn't changed is you". This culminated last night when he accused me of not cleaning to "the same standard he can" and that when I was on my own with DD my "standard of hygiene was unlivable" (I spoke to my NDN today, who was around a lot during that time, she said there was nothing wrong with the cleanliness of my home)

He has also told me on occasion that I'm not really Bi, because you can only be gay and straight, and that it doesn't matter anyway because I'm with him so sexuality is irrelevant. He's also suggested that I'm more likely to cheat on him because I'm Bi.

I have no friends left, I don't know if my dad will understand how bad it is (he usually has excuses for him), and my DGM died in June. I'm NC with my mum, and I have no one left except my NDN who is lovely and probably the only reason I haven't gone insane.

I don't know if I can get him to leave again. The only reason he left before was because I got him to think it was his idea, he won't make that mistake again.

I keep telling him that I want the person I met back, but I don't think that person exists anymore, if they ever did.

Sorry for any typos and that this is so long.

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Rachel0Greep · 28/09/2016 16:17

I love the tshirt skyy and it's so true! Well done you, you sound so positive and upbeat.

ayeokthen · 28/09/2016 16:38

Well done Skyye, I knew you'd manage today! I'm glad she enjoyed it too Smile love her tshirt! It's very true!

skyyequake · 28/09/2016 16:46

I am so pissed off!! I've just been clearing out the shed which is basically what the council call an outside cupboard. NDN has been helping as its a tip run job. The reason it needs clearing out is because when XP and his family did up our flat just after DD was born, they lobbed everything they ripped out/didn't use in the shed. It was literally full, floor to ceiling, with building shit. And the council sent me a letter last week saying that they were going to change the door as its very old so I need to make sure that the inside is clearly accessible. So I had a load of crap to clear out because XP and his family were too fucking lazy to do it themselves!

Then, he calls me. He asks how DD is, the what am I doing? Etc. I know, I know, I shouldn't have engaged, but I was already raging about the shed so I let rip. I didn't hurl insults or anything but I did tell him exactly how it was. He was also winding me up because he was clearly checking up on me (what are you doing? Who's helping you? Etc) in the end I said my final piece and hung up on him.

Next thing I know he's calling NDN! Apparently his nan died oops but then he was going on about how, he wasn't checking up on me, I was the one who wanted this, I was the one who ended it not him, he loves me so so much, blah blah blah. NDN saw through his game, but still! Trying to get her on side much!

I do feel sorry that his nan died. I never met her but I wouldn't wish grief on anyone. But he's surrounded by his family right now, so I'm trying to stop myself feeling guilty that I wasn't there to console him. I would have been, if he'd treated me like a decent person would have. But he didn't, and he's not alone, so I shouldn't feel guilty right? I don't know my mind keeps taking me from guilty to not guilty...

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ayeokthen · 28/09/2016 17:07

No, you definitely should NOT feel guilty. You've spent a long time picking up after his shit and this was the last straw, I don't blame you for going bel-ting at him! Also, if you didn't know his nan, he was clearly calling you for sympathy to get you back on side which is a dick move IMO. He's not your problem, his problems aren't your problem, he's a cunt. Hope you're ok now xxx

aefondkisses · 28/09/2016 17:25

I'd be pissed off at him calling my NDN, intruding on your support network. My ex used to do that but when he tries now I always name the behaviour when alone with the friend ("that's him trying to get your sympathy to make me look bad and spoil our friendship") as normal people don't expect or even imagine sth so warped. But your NDN sounds switched on which is great. It's normal to feel sad hearing about someone losing their gran but no need to feeling guilty!

GabsAlot · 28/09/2016 18:44

not your fault sky-hes playing the victim still now manipulating others

glad ndn is on your side

yes u wanted this for a bloody good reason-his going on on and about it is just about guilt tripping

Lynnm63 · 28/09/2016 18:54

Glad you gave him a bollocking and it's his own fault he's not with you. He doesn't deserve you but because you're a decent human being you feel empathy. Then again I'm sure you'd feel empathy if I told you my Nan had just died because you're just a nice person. My nan hasn't just died btw.

ohfourfoxache · 28/09/2016 18:55

Sky I'm really sorry, I don't mean to be a heartless cow, but are you sure his nan died? He really is pond scum - could he have made it up to get sympathy?

So glad you made it to toddlers, you should be damned proud of yourself.

I noticed earlier in your thread you were talking about weaning off bottles - that's exactly what I've just managed with ds (18 mo). The only thing he will accept milk from apart from a bottle is this
www.nuby-uk.com/view-product?path=66_55&product_id=831

He takes after his mother- he's a picky wee bugger!

Thank you hugely for the Just Fab recommendation from Capes' thread btw - I found boots! And they are boots that I have quite literally spent years searching for (just hope they're comfy!)

skyyequake · 28/09/2016 19:09

I am sure his nan died as I read a post about it that his cousin put on fb (one I have met and wouldn't lie about that kind of thing)

Thank you for all your support its making me feel better!!

I know his motive for calling NDN, its because I told him she was helping me with the shed and he was checking my story! He also used his "you're lying" voice because it was windy Confused do you see what I'm dealing with?

ohfour thanks for the recommendation! If she's still not off the bottles at 18mo I'll give that a try! Glad you found some boots you like! I find Just Fab can be a bit hit and miss, sometimes they have nothing I like but sometimes they have tonnes!! They seem to be having a good season Grin

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ohfourfoxache · 28/09/2016 19:16

Sorry, I play the role of heartless cow rather well Blush

Fucking hell, he really doesn't grasp that the intricacies of your life have nowt to do with him anymore Hmm - how dare he "check up" on you?

How are you doing? Are you able to keep your anger going or has it fizzled to exasperation yet?

tiredvommachine · 28/09/2016 19:36

Don't feel guilty.
He's a cunt.

skyyequake · 28/09/2016 19:47

That's ok! He's not done much to deserve the benefit of the doubt tbh... Says a lot that I trust his cousin more than him!

I am feeling less and less guilty thank you Grin He's his brothers problem now!!

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ohfourfoxache · 28/09/2016 19:51

You rock, Sky Grin

skyyequake · 28/09/2016 20:12

I don't have any Wine Sad but I do have ice cream!!!!

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ddrmum · 28/09/2016 20:42

Just checking in still without (much needed) wineGrin! Well done on getting to the toddler session today & nice working on telling him about himself! So frustrating that he feels to have the right to question you - asshole Angry

skyyequake · 28/09/2016 21:15

Thank you!! We're having a lazyish day tomorrow... They're changing the shed door in the morning, can't wait to get that cleared out and actually fucking usable! Dad said a few months ago that he would buy me a bike for christmas no im not 6 it was funny that he brought it up because I was actually thinking about it... Seeing as I don't have a driving license it would be quite freeing to be able to put DD on the back of a bike in a seat obv and get places quicker/further away. If the shed was cleared I would have a safe place to store it!

I'm kind of resigned to the fact that he's always going to believe that he has the right to check up on me, but I imagine over time I will be less angry about it and probably find it pathetically funny! At the moment it makes me feel a tad sorry for him in a way. He spent so much time isolating me that he isolated himself in the process. I'm not lying when I say he has almost no friends, and the ones he does have he hardly ever talks to and I wouldn't be surprised if they just gave up on him... It's sad really.

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ohfourfoxache · 28/09/2016 22:02

Hehehehehe - isn't it a shame that his plan backfired.....Wink

Whereas you, my dear, have your wonderful dd and lots of opportunities to make new friends

skyyequake · 28/09/2016 22:11

Yup! There's a thing at the place that holds the toddler group, unfortunately it's on at the same time as Freedom, but once I've finished with that I will definitely go! It's a breakfast thing where parents put their DC in a creche and have actual adult breakfast with crumpets and shit! It's going to be great to fill that empty slot in my week once Freedom is over Smile

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ayeokthen · 28/09/2016 22:16

Ugh I hate that "I'm entitled to check up/stalk/find out what you're doing". Eh naw pal, yer no! Well done (again!!) not falling for his shite! Once the shed is empty, you could suggest he moves in as its the closest he'll get to being near you again actually don't, he probably fecking would Grin

theansweris42 · 28/09/2016 22:19

I love this thread. That is all. Smile

ohfourfoxache · 28/09/2016 22:20

That sounds like bliss - breakfast and a hot drink that you can actually have whilst it's hot! (I had to rely on the microwave to get mine re warmed at the start of the week)

hellsbellsmelons · 28/09/2016 22:25

You sound so so great.
Guilty. No. you shouldn't feel that.
As a decent human being though you are still allowed to feel sorry.
I think you are confusing the two.
It must have felt good to get that she'd sorted.
Still loving your ndn.
Bless her.

skyyequake · 28/09/2016 22:26

aye you've got me pissing myself here I would love to see his face if I said that to him! I can see the sulking now Grin

ohfour I used to let so many hot drinks go cold! Now DD is the master of independent play so I don't have that trouble Grin It's the one thing I won on the baby lottery, one that will actually be very content upending her toybox over the floor whilst I have a coffee!

theanswer I feel like this has become a little chat group rather than a thread on a particular topic... The only thing tying it together is bitching about XPs Grin I love it, wish you could all come round for a Brew and a natter!!

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skyyequake · 28/09/2016 22:30

thanks hellsbells! you reminded me! I mentioned this way back on the first page, but NDN was in an abusive relationship quite a few years back and we have had a good laugh about how pathetic/predictable/exhausting they are! It is nice to have someone who really understands in IRL... Another coincidence that we happened to move next door to her!

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theansweris42 · 28/09/2016 22:33

sky it is a chat group and it's good cos you've done brilliantly hurrah

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