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Wow. Where do I begin. WHAT is going on?!

124 replies

SGx1x · 12/09/2016 12:31

Ok... It's a long one please bare with me but I need some help.

I'm going to start from the top. I met a guy from Instagram. He is quite well known as he used to be a popular artists manager & he is still involved in that kind of lifestyle as he's part of a kind of group (not musically or anything they just have these groups all over the world). Anyway... He would contact me via dm & we spoke on & off for a few months.

We started to then talk over whatsapp. I live in London he lives in New York. I'm 26, but he's quite a youthful 40.

We would FaceTime a lot and at the start he was very sweet, caring. He would send me lovey dovey pictures & would open up to me. He was vary caring and would always contact me & really try to keep me happy. He said he wanted a relationship I said not until we meet each other but one thing led to another & we started to date. He was very sweet & taught me a lot even through a small time because of his demeanour and the things he had been through. I will say he is a tough guy & the way he speaks is sometimes intimidating. He would tell me I was the best woman to come into his life, because of the heart I have. He would say all these things about marriage kids etc etc etc. Let's just say he was very caring, if I didn't call he would call me & ask where I was. Check to see I was ok etc.

A little bit controlling, but at the time I thought it was sweet he asked me to download the find my friends app, so I could see where he was & he could see where I was. I now see this as controlling & not sweet, FYI.

He would always reassure me & let's say I told him to do something he would. I told him to delete 2 women from his Instagram which he did. No arguments he just did it.

I must say sometimes I can be quite shy & unwilling to send those kind of pictures or be overley sexual. It's not in my nature & I said after we meet I would be more open to pictures & stuff as we are in a LDR.

Following on about 4 weeks from speaking to him, I had already had a trip to nyc booked with a friend so had planned on meeting him. We met on the second day, we hung out, went to a hotel etc & had a good day. We then met again on the fourth day. He took me & my friend to the mall... Took us to a few places, we dropped her back to her hotel & went to another hotel & spent the night. The next day was the day we were leaving & our plane was to depart that evening. I collected my luggage and we picked up my friend. I went with him to his area, met his father which he said he wanted to & met some of his friends. I will say he is a part of a motorcycle type of movement (not the typical type of one - a very well known one). So he took me & my friend on the bikes as I had never experienced it & I met some of his friends. He was very sweet & would refer to me as "I'm with my girlfriend" or "dropping my girlfriend to the airport" when people would ring him. We said our goodbyes and said we would see each other soon.

Now on to the real! I added this separate as it's easier for me to explain. He was very critical of me at first I thought it was constructive but I don't think it was. "Why are you reapplying your make up" "stop playing with your hair" "why this" "why that". I also need to say he has a temper. A bad temper & sometimes I cannot get a word in edge ways because he shouts. I know it's in his nature, his past what he's dealt with. But i can't deal with that & have told him. We get into arguements a lot because of both him and me. I told him I'm not a pushover but sometimes I have no option but to be silent.
Onto my friend, my friend is very loud over the top knows she's sexy & was projecting this instead of being there for me... So she was getting all the attention from his friends over me & I wish I never introduced them. We had an arguement at the airport which I thought he didn't see but he did. I was so embarrassed & hurt by a lot of things. E.g I had a helmet on, it's nyc, hot my hair looked a mess when I got off the bike & my friend just flicked her hair & continued to look pretty. He looked at me and said "your hair is a disaster" I felt like shit. I felt like shit the whole trip. The worst is I think my friend saw him at the airport & continued to argue Infront of him.

On to the sex. I have my own issues and insecurities so I sometimes find it hard to be naked without any lingerie etc. He said I was to shy & make me take everything off I was so uncomfortable & horrified. He said I "do to much"

I know you think why do you even care for this guy? Because he can get any girl he wants due to his profession & chose me. He was very sweet always chasing me & making me feel wanted. I met his father, his friends... I know I'm not the best looking girl he's dated but that never bothered me until now & it hurts cos I feel like he's making me feel like that.

Anyway, I'm back in the UK he's back in NY. He told me to call him when I got to the airport, called him he said he heard me argue with my friend, if I was ok he said call him when I board. Called him many times no answer. I should say he said he liked it when I called a lot as it showed I cared, we used to FaceTime each other all the time, he used to call as much as me.
Anyway, he never answered. I texted him when I landed, he was sleeping at this time. No response until 10pm my time and 5pm his time. Said I hope you landed ok etc etc. The next day no contact. Called him after I finished work very brief contact.

I will say he is broke now, which doesn't matter to me as I'm not about a mans money. I have booked his flights & hotel to come and stay in 3 weeks time. He wants to take me to a few countries with meets in the future. He said when he comes he's going to meet some of the people of the group when he gets here, sometimes he jokes he's going to go alone but then would say, no in joking I'm taking you with me everywhere, you're my girl. He would joke about meeting other women here but stopped that.

Just before i was due to fly to NY he told me he had a music meeting with record execs in Turks & Caicos. Fine.

He had been online on whatsapp but was not contacting me. Third day was his day to fly, he sis the reason he doesn't answer my calls was because we argue to much, which I agree. He said he would call me when he got there.

He never contacted me until day 6 when I asked if everything was ok. Bare in mind he would go online on whatsapp in the evenings a few times & not contact me. He hadn't been on Instagram & said his wifi wasn't that good.

During this week I self reflected & agreed that I probably argue to much but because of stuff that he does, how he makes me feel.

When he returned. Bare in mind I had been tracking the supposed flight he was on which said he would land at 9pm. The next morning for me it was 9am & him 4am. He posted a picture on Instagram, I commented and he called me. I apologised to him for arguing and told him that we would not do it again.

Later on, the person from the record label commented "safe flight" on the picture hours after he posted it. I was like what??? If they paid for your flights and they brought you along why would he write that. For some reason I never brought it up. I got angry however, he followed fhe one of the two people I told him to unfollow. When I questioned him he said it was his IG...bullshit. I told him to unfollow her again and he did. But then I've found out he added the other one again.

He had another meet to attend this past weekend Friday, sat & Sunday.

He called me Friday. We spoke but he was getting ready. I told him to talk to me more as he wasn't really talking and he shouted saying "I'm getting ready! Wait on the phone or I'll call you back!" I waited for him, he got ready & left to get in his car. I thought you wanted me to wait so we could talk when you finished getting ready but now you gotta go? That was the last time I heard from him. He has been online on whatsapp both this past Saturday & Sunday. I know he's been busy at the meet but he's been online. He never contacted me & didn't answer my FaceTimes. Never sends me sweet pictures, just acts like he doesn't care.

He's been acting different. He ignores me. Distances from me. Rude when we talk. I want to talk to him. But I'm afraid of his temper. He's started to comment on other women's pictures again. He just acts like he doesn't care. I know he's not much of a phone person, never uses emojis, not good communication when he does etc. I know he's more of a face to face person but I'm hurt. We both told each other we loved each other, how does this happen? I know he's had women who have been there for him in the past, how do I show him that IM actually the good one. IM the one doing all the effort.

On Saturday, as he's always asking for videos or pictures. I sent him 2 seductive videos (strip kind of style) he viewed them & I still haven't heard from him - imagine how shit I feel!

Today, I know he's back to normal life no upcoming trips etc so I know he's free to talk. Do I contact him? If I don't will he think I don't care? Do I not contact him?

I don't know what to do..... He's coming here in 3 weeks. Do i wait for him to come & sort it out? Or do I cancel the whole trip, lose the money. What do I do?

I've been through a lot in my life. I've never had love & sometimes get attached. But now I can get unattached just as quick. I really cared about this guy, he's done things for me no man has before. But it's like he's taking it all away. I feel like I'm not good enough. What is his game?

Should I call him today or ignore him? Wait for him to call? Do I ask him why he's ignoring me even though I told him we won't have any arguments? I need urgent help as I don't know what to do.

OP posts:
BitchQueen90 · 12/09/2016 14:42

Don't message him that! I don't mean this horrible but that message is pathetic, it's like you think you're not good enough for him or something. It sounds whiny and self pitying. You are feeding into his ego. Would you be acting this way if he were a dustbin man?

Also, if you message him you'll get drawn back into it again. He'll come up with some bullshit excuse and you'll accept it and carry on. Believe me, I've been there.

Block him on everything. Don't be tempted to check his Instagram. Do not contact him again. Address your self esteem issues before you start another relationship.

PatriciaHolm · 12/09/2016 14:43

"This isn't working for me. I've cancelled the flights and hotels for your trip, never contact me again."

And block.

RedMapleLeaf · 12/09/2016 14:45

There's a lot of your post I have yet to read, but I'm curious as to how this worked,

He said he wanted a relationship I said not until we meet each other but one thing led to another & we started to date

Did you meet in person? Or did you have dates over the internet or something??

FinallyHere · 12/09/2016 14:46

Nooooo.

Dont do this to your self. And dont message him to say goodbye, that,s for people who treated you well. This man has nit been nice, just cancel the tickets, block him and spend the money on something nice for yourself. And think very carefully why you went along with this. Thank goodness for Mumsnet.

Grumpyoldblonde · 12/09/2016 14:47

Oh jeez, I am sure at 26 this all seems exciting and dramatic to you, a bit glamorous perhaps?
I am reading this aged 46, he sounds like a twat, block him and move on.

toptoe · 12/09/2016 14:48

He's a player. You've been played. He couldn't give a shit what you write to him or how you feel.

Don't feed this man any more - don't speak to him/write to him/facetime him / send him pictures / have any physical contact with him.

MrsCaecilius · 12/09/2016 14:48

Don't feed his ego. Don't send him any message.

No cancel the trip and secure your credit card (if he knows it). Do block him and not reply/pick up if he calls you.

Take back control and let him carry on being a sad little looser faaaaaar away from you.

Flowers
MrsCaecilius · 12/09/2016 14:48

That should read 'DO' cancel the trip, not 'no'!!

toptoe · 12/09/2016 14:50

Also, if you slept with him, you need to get yourself checked out at a clinic for sexually transmitted infections. Don't feel ashamed, you won't be the first or the last to have a run in with a player. .Just learn and move on. No decent man asks for nude shots, tells you what to dress/wear/how to have sex. They don't want you to do anything you are uncomfortable with. And money means nothing if you aren't happy.

BummyMummy77 · 12/09/2016 14:51

You'll look back on this in 10 years and see what a mug you've been.

Sorry to be harsh but I used to be you. And I wish someone had been upfront with me and told me to value myself more.

Cut him out of your life completely and totally right now.

queenMab99 · 12/09/2016 14:52

Is this how people live now?

dowhatnow · 12/09/2016 14:52

He never contacted me & didn't answer my FaceTimes. Never sends me sweet pictures, just acts like he doesn't care.

Sweetheart, that is because he doesn't care. He might even have broken it off already except he's getting a free trip to the UK out of it if he keeps you dangling. It even sounds as if he's enjoying keeping you dangling. He's shown you no respect at all and you've shown yourself no respect by allowing it. You've seen all the red flags waving strongly and you've ignored them all.
Please dump him and learn that this is a prime example of what not to accept in a relationship. Compare other relationships in the future to this one and unless they are polar opposites, run a mile. You've had a lucky escape that he is from abroard and you haven't been sucked in further. You are experiencing lust not love. You don't know him. Get rid of him fast. Say it on facetime if you want but ignore any charm offensive. He's bound to try and sweet talk you round. If not just text him. He ignores your calls so a text will be fine.

teraculum29 · 12/09/2016 14:52

sorry but u were scammed

block and move on

AnotherPrickInTheWall · 12/09/2016 14:53

Block him; he's a socially inept and frankly disgusting man who preys on innocent women online because the reality he hasn't got it in him to have an actual relationship in RL.
Sorry this has happened to you.

ImperialBlether · 12/09/2016 14:57

Is there any way she could cancel the ticket and let him turn up at the airport and get turned down? That's what I would want to happen.

2016Hopeful · 12/09/2016 14:59

Sounds like too much hard work, he is 40 and sounds very immature.

purplefox · 12/09/2016 15:01

This is far too much drama for someone you've seen three times.

NotTheFordType · 12/09/2016 15:02

A whore will let you talk to them any kind of way

Snort. No we don't. Any client who spoke to me like this joker has to you would be out on their earhole!

Send him a brief WhatsApp saying "I've cancelled your trip, don't ever contact me again" and then block him from EVERYTHING and as a PP said if you've ever given him your card details (e.g. to book flights) then contact your card issuer and say you think your details have been compromised and get them to send you a new card.

You need to examine why you thought this bucket of shite was worth pursuing, and why you tied your self-esteem to what he thought of you and whether you were "better" Hmm than other women.

A Woman In Your Own Right by Anne Dickson is a good place to start.

SantasLittleMonkeyButler · 12/09/2016 15:04

OK, so whilst your relationship was purely online/by phone, it was fun and made you both happy.

Once you met things changed.

You're not compatible. The relationship has not worked out. It sounds like you've had a lucky escape TBH.

No need for an emotional e-mail. Just cut him off and move on.

Ragwort · 12/09/2016 15:06

Oh please, I cringe when I read threads like your's, how can be so needy and not see what a total prick this man is.

Do not contact him ever again, he doesn't care for you, he probably has a different woman in every town. Find your self respect and move on.

I don't even know you but I feel totally embarrassed for you.

Dogolphin · 12/09/2016 15:09

Find your self respect and change the tickets to a nice holiday for yourself, find a nice chap at comic con or something instead.

Arfarfanarf · 12/09/2016 15:10

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Message withdrawn at poster's request.

SlowJinn · 12/09/2016 15:11

You have been taken for a ride. Block, delete, move on. Get some counselling to address your low self-esteem. Meet some guys in real life not online. And forget this complete and utter loser.

var12 · 12/09/2016 15:12

You've been had. You are only 26, and he's 40, so its probably his 16th time, but your first. (There's a good reason why he isn't in a relationship). So, you need to end this, but do ti with dignity, not an essay. Do you really think that he'll realise that the one he spent 3 days with and got some porn videos out of was the one who got away.

Why contact him at all? Just block, move on and forget - but do learn the lesson about the homemade porn (that's photos and videos). Oh and cancel those tickets - you can at least get the tax back.

If you block him without another word, there is just the faintest chance it will frustrate him when he decides to dangle another bit of bait your way, so there's revenge there.
Alternatively, you could say that one of his friends has contacted you (unnamed) and you've realised that you prefer the friend. He sounds like a control freak, so that would annoy him too as he tries to work out which friend.

But that's just a bit of fantasy what you should seriously do is just block, forget and move on.

CocktailQueen · 12/09/2016 15:17

No no no no.

Nasty user.

Just message him: "This isn't working for me. I've cancelled the flights and hotels. I don't want to see you"

And block.