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Wow. Where do I begin. WHAT is going on?!

124 replies

SGx1x · 12/09/2016 12:31

Ok... It's a long one please bare with me but I need some help.

I'm going to start from the top. I met a guy from Instagram. He is quite well known as he used to be a popular artists manager & he is still involved in that kind of lifestyle as he's part of a kind of group (not musically or anything they just have these groups all over the world). Anyway... He would contact me via dm & we spoke on & off for a few months.

We started to then talk over whatsapp. I live in London he lives in New York. I'm 26, but he's quite a youthful 40.

We would FaceTime a lot and at the start he was very sweet, caring. He would send me lovey dovey pictures & would open up to me. He was vary caring and would always contact me & really try to keep me happy. He said he wanted a relationship I said not until we meet each other but one thing led to another & we started to date. He was very sweet & taught me a lot even through a small time because of his demeanour and the things he had been through. I will say he is a tough guy & the way he speaks is sometimes intimidating. He would tell me I was the best woman to come into his life, because of the heart I have. He would say all these things about marriage kids etc etc etc. Let's just say he was very caring, if I didn't call he would call me & ask where I was. Check to see I was ok etc.

A little bit controlling, but at the time I thought it was sweet he asked me to download the find my friends app, so I could see where he was & he could see where I was. I now see this as controlling & not sweet, FYI.

He would always reassure me & let's say I told him to do something he would. I told him to delete 2 women from his Instagram which he did. No arguments he just did it.

I must say sometimes I can be quite shy & unwilling to send those kind of pictures or be overley sexual. It's not in my nature & I said after we meet I would be more open to pictures & stuff as we are in a LDR.

Following on about 4 weeks from speaking to him, I had already had a trip to nyc booked with a friend so had planned on meeting him. We met on the second day, we hung out, went to a hotel etc & had a good day. We then met again on the fourth day. He took me & my friend to the mall... Took us to a few places, we dropped her back to her hotel & went to another hotel & spent the night. The next day was the day we were leaving & our plane was to depart that evening. I collected my luggage and we picked up my friend. I went with him to his area, met his father which he said he wanted to & met some of his friends. I will say he is a part of a motorcycle type of movement (not the typical type of one - a very well known one). So he took me & my friend on the bikes as I had never experienced it & I met some of his friends. He was very sweet & would refer to me as "I'm with my girlfriend" or "dropping my girlfriend to the airport" when people would ring him. We said our goodbyes and said we would see each other soon.

Now on to the real! I added this separate as it's easier for me to explain. He was very critical of me at first I thought it was constructive but I don't think it was. "Why are you reapplying your make up" "stop playing with your hair" "why this" "why that". I also need to say he has a temper. A bad temper & sometimes I cannot get a word in edge ways because he shouts. I know it's in his nature, his past what he's dealt with. But i can't deal with that & have told him. We get into arguements a lot because of both him and me. I told him I'm not a pushover but sometimes I have no option but to be silent.
Onto my friend, my friend is very loud over the top knows she's sexy & was projecting this instead of being there for me... So she was getting all the attention from his friends over me & I wish I never introduced them. We had an arguement at the airport which I thought he didn't see but he did. I was so embarrassed & hurt by a lot of things. E.g I had a helmet on, it's nyc, hot my hair looked a mess when I got off the bike & my friend just flicked her hair & continued to look pretty. He looked at me and said "your hair is a disaster" I felt like shit. I felt like shit the whole trip. The worst is I think my friend saw him at the airport & continued to argue Infront of him.

On to the sex. I have my own issues and insecurities so I sometimes find it hard to be naked without any lingerie etc. He said I was to shy & make me take everything off I was so uncomfortable & horrified. He said I "do to much"

I know you think why do you even care for this guy? Because he can get any girl he wants due to his profession & chose me. He was very sweet always chasing me & making me feel wanted. I met his father, his friends... I know I'm not the best looking girl he's dated but that never bothered me until now & it hurts cos I feel like he's making me feel like that.

Anyway, I'm back in the UK he's back in NY. He told me to call him when I got to the airport, called him he said he heard me argue with my friend, if I was ok he said call him when I board. Called him many times no answer. I should say he said he liked it when I called a lot as it showed I cared, we used to FaceTime each other all the time, he used to call as much as me.
Anyway, he never answered. I texted him when I landed, he was sleeping at this time. No response until 10pm my time and 5pm his time. Said I hope you landed ok etc etc. The next day no contact. Called him after I finished work very brief contact.

I will say he is broke now, which doesn't matter to me as I'm not about a mans money. I have booked his flights & hotel to come and stay in 3 weeks time. He wants to take me to a few countries with meets in the future. He said when he comes he's going to meet some of the people of the group when he gets here, sometimes he jokes he's going to go alone but then would say, no in joking I'm taking you with me everywhere, you're my girl. He would joke about meeting other women here but stopped that.

Just before i was due to fly to NY he told me he had a music meeting with record execs in Turks & Caicos. Fine.

He had been online on whatsapp but was not contacting me. Third day was his day to fly, he sis the reason he doesn't answer my calls was because we argue to much, which I agree. He said he would call me when he got there.

He never contacted me until day 6 when I asked if everything was ok. Bare in mind he would go online on whatsapp in the evenings a few times & not contact me. He hadn't been on Instagram & said his wifi wasn't that good.

During this week I self reflected & agreed that I probably argue to much but because of stuff that he does, how he makes me feel.

When he returned. Bare in mind I had been tracking the supposed flight he was on which said he would land at 9pm. The next morning for me it was 9am & him 4am. He posted a picture on Instagram, I commented and he called me. I apologised to him for arguing and told him that we would not do it again.

Later on, the person from the record label commented "safe flight" on the picture hours after he posted it. I was like what??? If they paid for your flights and they brought you along why would he write that. For some reason I never brought it up. I got angry however, he followed fhe one of the two people I told him to unfollow. When I questioned him he said it was his IG...bullshit. I told him to unfollow her again and he did. But then I've found out he added the other one again.

He had another meet to attend this past weekend Friday, sat & Sunday.

He called me Friday. We spoke but he was getting ready. I told him to talk to me more as he wasn't really talking and he shouted saying "I'm getting ready! Wait on the phone or I'll call you back!" I waited for him, he got ready & left to get in his car. I thought you wanted me to wait so we could talk when you finished getting ready but now you gotta go? That was the last time I heard from him. He has been online on whatsapp both this past Saturday & Sunday. I know he's been busy at the meet but he's been online. He never contacted me & didn't answer my FaceTimes. Never sends me sweet pictures, just acts like he doesn't care.

He's been acting different. He ignores me. Distances from me. Rude when we talk. I want to talk to him. But I'm afraid of his temper. He's started to comment on other women's pictures again. He just acts like he doesn't care. I know he's not much of a phone person, never uses emojis, not good communication when he does etc. I know he's more of a face to face person but I'm hurt. We both told each other we loved each other, how does this happen? I know he's had women who have been there for him in the past, how do I show him that IM actually the good one. IM the one doing all the effort.

On Saturday, as he's always asking for videos or pictures. I sent him 2 seductive videos (strip kind of style) he viewed them & I still haven't heard from him - imagine how shit I feel!

Today, I know he's back to normal life no upcoming trips etc so I know he's free to talk. Do I contact him? If I don't will he think I don't care? Do I not contact him?

I don't know what to do..... He's coming here in 3 weeks. Do i wait for him to come & sort it out? Or do I cancel the whole trip, lose the money. What do I do?

I've been through a lot in my life. I've never had love & sometimes get attached. But now I can get unattached just as quick. I really cared about this guy, he's done things for me no man has before. But it's like he's taking it all away. I feel like I'm not good enough. What is his game?

Should I call him today or ignore him? Wait for him to call? Do I ask him why he's ignoring me even though I told him we won't have any arguments? I need urgent help as I don't know what to do.

OP posts:
AnyFucker · 12/09/2016 14:10

Op, scrub that dramallama essay and replace it with 4 simple words.

Never
Contact
Me
Again

Then block him.

TwentyCups · 12/09/2016 14:13

Please don't send that!

I don't think you should send anything personally, just block him on everything and cancel the trip.

If you really want to send something then AnyFucker's short message would do nicely, don't add anything.

hellsbellsmelons · 12/09/2016 14:14

Dear god!!
No no no. Do NOT contact him again.
Blimey.
This is the saddest thing I've read on here in a while.
Pick you dignity and self respect, up off of the floor and walk away with your head held high.
And please get some counselling.
And please call Womens Aid and ask about their Freedom Programme and do it fast!!!!! Before you get even a tiny a bit involved with another loser!

Pagwatch · 12/09/2016 14:15

Other than having once been vaguely famous and once been faintly well off, he's an absoloute tool.

Why are you so desperate for the attention of a middle aged has been who is sponging off you?

CalmItKermitt · 12/09/2016 14:17

How can you be dating someone before even meeting them?

Sorry I didn't bother to read your whole op. I only needed a few paragraphs to confident advise that you run for the hills.

Somerville · 12/09/2016 14:19

Listen to everyone else and don't send that!

He won't even read it.

Oscha · 12/09/2016 14:19

Jesus Christ. I'm exhausted just reading that.

You don't know him, and what you do know of him seems pretty bloody awful. He treats you badly, even when he's not in the country, let alone the room.

Cancel the ticket and room. Get your money back. Change your number.

user1471443066 · 12/09/2016 14:19

I can't even read it all, he is an egotistical, controlling fucker, get rid.

Don't be sucked in by his "exciting" lifestyle....if it was all soo amazing why is he engaging in these fake on-line/not real life relationships. The real him is a nightmare....get rid.

Gazelda · 12/09/2016 14:19

I'd send him a very short message to say that you feel you've been taken for a ride and since rediscovering your self respect you've decided to break things off with him, including cancelling the trip.

Then block him.

Then apologise to your friend for the way you treated her on your NYC weekend.

Pagwatch · 12/09/2016 14:22

Keith Chegwin used to be famous and wealthy and I bet he wouldn't want home made porn or shout at you about your hair.

I'd make a play for cheggers

EatsShitAndLeaves · 12/09/2016 14:24

OP you sound more like a star struck teenager than a grown woman.

People can only treat you badly because you let them - and you've given this guy carte blanche to do so time and time again because you feel "lucky" he's picked you.

You're not lucky, you've been targeted because you've left your self esteem and dignity on the floor.

Pick them up and block him as PP's have advised.

There is nothing you can say to this emotional, sexual and financial vampire - all you can do is cut off the supply before he utterly drains you.

happypoobum · 12/09/2016 14:27

You are going to cancel the flights aren't you?

Somehow I don't think you are. Do you have long standing self esteem issues? I ask this because I can't imagine how you have got suckered into this. This man is a walking nightmare. He has no money, is rude. aggressive, scary, critical and dismissive of you. He is throwing you a few crumbs every now and then just so that you pay for his ticket over here. Is he staying at your home?

Cancel it all, block him, and do something about your self esteem. Have you ever had counselling? What are relations like with your family of origin? I could be wrong but I am guessing they are utter bastards.

You deserve better love. Flowers

theansweris42 · 12/09/2016 14:28

please come back and tell us you've cancelled what you can and your cred card is secure and if not you've reported it.
Block him, don't message.
he doesn't care how you feel. He doesn't care about you.
I feel for you and I too think you would benefit from looking further into why you feel so needy.

happypoobum · 12/09/2016 14:28

PagI have met Cheggers in real life (proud) and he was lovely Smile

mumofthemonsters808 · 12/09/2016 14:28

For your own sanity, you need to walk away from him, if he really is as vile as you describe him, he will emotionally destroy you. You need to sit down with yourself and think through the things he has encouraged;doubts over your attractiveness, seeing your friend as a perceived threat, being out of pocket, lowering yourself to send pictures, fretting over no contact, the list goes on.This situation will only get worse, if you continue to bow to his inflated ego, get rid.

clam · 12/09/2016 14:29

because of who you are.

Hmm And who's that exactly? A washed-up has-been who's been sacked?

DogsAndCatsAndThings · 12/09/2016 14:29

I'm not being mean.

Do not contact him he has dumped you.

Please don't waste any more time with this narcissistic nutter. You are worth more than this. He's not as special as you or he think he is.

LilyandGinger · 12/09/2016 14:30

So you've seen him in real life for what 24hrs?

And during that time he:

Made you do things you didn't want to in bed.
Was nasty about the way you looked.
Told you how to behave
Argued with you

This is not love.
This is not a good man.

He's exploiting you for your money, the home made porn and because you massage his ego.

I'm sorry to be blunt. He introduced to friends and family to prove that he can shag a 25yo not because he loves you.

I'm so sorry to be blunt but you deserve much, much more than this.

Send AF's nice short message.
Cancel the tickets
Block him from all your contacts and social media
Remove the tracking app from your phone.

kalinkafoxtrot45 · 12/09/2016 14:34

He's horrible. Drop him. Block him. Cancel everything you've booked. And then get some help with your self-esteem, because you really are worth more than this.

PickAChew · 12/09/2016 14:34

Life's too short for so much headfuck (and I didn't even read to the end!)

HappyAxolotl · 12/09/2016 14:36

He couldn't even manage to put up a pretence of being halfway nice when he only saw you for a couple of days.

Dump him while you still have a couple of crumbs of self-esteem left and get yourself into counselling to work out why you were ever attracted in the first place.

Lunar1 · 12/09/2016 14:36

Just delete and block him from contacting you. Then I get the feeling you owe your friend an apology. She went to ny with you so you could meet him, and you get pissy with her because you didn't want her to talk to his friends. What on earth should she have done? Sat in a corner and read a book?

ImperialBlether · 12/09/2016 14:40

Sorry, OP, but I started to laugh halfway through that because it was such a disaster - one disaster after another, in fact.

Firstly cancel the tickets. He's spun you a load of lies about his 'profession' - he doesn't have one. He once had a job and he no longer has that. Now he's relying on 26 year old women to pay for his tickets - his payback is to treat you as though you're ugly.

Then send the "never contact me again" message.

Then dump your friend. She's a disloyal twat who fancies herself too much.

Then never ever send anyone a naked/half-naked photo of yourself every again. You've really been an idiot there.

Then have a stiff drink and book a counsellor - putting up with that level of shit just isn't right and you need to sort yourself out.

HuskyLover1 · 12/09/2016 14:40

OMG, this is far too much hard work. Ditch him. He sounds like a grade A twat. What's with all the drama and blowing hot and cold?

My DH is at work at the moment. At 8pm he will be home. We will chat about our day. We will eat dinner and have some wine. There will be no rows. He will be lovely to me. I will be lovely to him. There is rarely any drama.

Don't you want a relationship that's easy?

TwentyCups · 12/09/2016 14:41

Lunar I actually read it as OP and her friend had already booked this NY trip before this man was on the scene. Very difficult situation to have put her in.
I know this isn't necessarily what the post is about though.