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Boyfriend - he's just not that into you?

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user1473580924 · 11/09/2016 09:27

Hello all. Very new to this, I'm Jess. Looking for a bit of relationship advice really, as I'm in a situation which, although not dangerous, is causing me significant distress.

I have been in my current relationship for 9 years. OH is my only serious relationship, and the person I lost my virginity to, the only person I have slept with.

I grew up in an unstable, emotionally abusive and neglectful home, so when I met OH at 17, I was beyond happy to know a kind of love that was unconditional, kind and supportive.

To begin with, we were inseparable. We loved being in each others' company, went on long hikes just to talk to each other, and he showed interest in a lot of things that I like.

We have been through a lot of challenges together, divorces, deaths in the family, my own anxiety disorder, him losing his job.

We recently bought a house together, and everything seems perfect on the outside. We began to start thinking about starting a family.

The only problem is, I have this niggling doubt that it's not right. Although he's a very handsome chap, our sex life has never been fantastic. Nevertheless, at the start, with work, for the first 2/3 years we made it work, having sex once a week. I have a fairly strong sex drive, but his is very low. We now have sex once a month or less, and it is clear that he really doesn't enjoy it. I have tried many different ways, asking him what he likes and doing that (usually focusing on him). After he is done he rolls over and falls asleep and I am left frustrated.

Recently he confided that he only had sex with me at the start to 'keep me happy', and that he doesn't enjoy it and would be fine if we never had sex again.

This really shocked me, and had a big effect on my self-esteem. I wanted to find ways to make myself more attractive to him - more makeup, clothes, trying to inspire a little bit of jealousy by having an active social life. I feel like a terrible person for wanting to make love to my partner - when I try to initiate, (perhaps once a week) he says 'not again! Is that all you think about?' or tells me he's too tired or too stressed. He's fairly affectionate apart from this, cuddling (although he hates kissing).

It is a similar thing in other areas of our relationship too. He no longer 'fakes' interest in any of the things we used to do together, like hiking, and if I suggest going on a day out together he will sulk and say he hates doing things. He has said to me that he 'just wants an easy life' and wants to relax at home after a hard week, rather than doing things together. I understand this is because he has a stressful job (he's a teacher), but it has meant we have lost our connection as we never do anything together.

He hates going out, doesn't drink, and spends all of his free time on video games to unwind. I have talked to him and mentioned wanting to do more things together as I'm worried our relationship is in trouble, but he just says that this is how relationships go after a while, and that 'you shouldn't have to put in as much effort' as you do at the start.

I try to help him out with his stress as much as I can. I cook our dinner every night, do all of the washing and ironing etc, and other than that leave him to it. But I now feel resentful, like what he really wants is a mum or a housekeeper and not a girlfriend.

I have been going to counselling at Relate for a few months, and have asked him to come, but he has refused, saying 'he would rather split up'. A couple of months ago I told him that I needed to fulfil my desires for connection, not just sexually, but emotionally, and rather than working on it, he suggested we enter into an open relationship, and that I sleep with other guys, 'if sex is so important'.

I love my OH - what should I do? Utterly lost.

OP posts:
AttilaTheMeerkat · 11/09/2016 10:04

I thought, well if he doesn't like sex, at least he'll never cheat on me. So many of my friends have been cheated on, I felt lucky that I hadn't.

This is also indicative to me that your relationship bar is set far far too low.

He is not a partner to you at all and he has just used you to his own ends, the fact that you even think he could be a fantastic father is also very troubling. The bloke is both selfish and lazy You for your part have acted more like a mother figure smoothing out any difficulties for him and running around after him. Is this what you saw growing up also?.

user1473580924 · 11/09/2016 10:07

Attila, thank you yes, I have, after a long time on a waiting list, been referred for psychotherapy due to the trauma I experienced as a child. My mother was codependent (my dad was a Narcissist).

It is strange, though, I see my OH as entirely opposite to my dad.

Headinhands, he has friends, and he regularly goes out at weekends, spending whole days with them playing/watching sports and catching Pokemon. Sometimes he can leave at 9am and not be back til the next day. Which is why I get so upset when he says he has no energy for me. :(

He says he loves me maybe 10 times a day, and says he wants to be with me forever. It's so confusing that he doesn't seem to want to try to meet me halfway on improving the relationship.

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Lilacpink40 · 11/09/2016 10:09

Can you have a break by staying with family for a week?

Ideally a quiet space where you can clearly think and not live a 'dream' him changing to be supportive that you've mentally created to fill in the gaps of reality.

I lived with hope for 10 years and there was no real hope. I loved having DCs, but constantly dragging along an adult is soul-destroying.

user1473580924 · 11/09/2016 10:10

My mum would do everything for my dad, all his washing, cleaning, cooking. I remember her peeling grapes for him one time! She would do all of this, set his dinner on his lap when he came in from work, and he wouldn't speak to her, wouldn't even acknowledge her.

It's different for me as I also work full time, but have somehow ended up doing the 'mothering' role also.

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user1473580924 · 11/09/2016 10:11

lilacpink, unfortunately due to the abuse, I have no supportive family I can stay with - financially tied also, with the house. I tried to stay with my mum for a week, but she told me to go back to him.

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Kikibanana86 · 11/09/2016 10:13

You have no ties to this man, leave! Life can be so much more than this!

ElspethFlashman · 11/09/2016 10:13

He wants to be with you forever cos he knows he won't find anyone as undemanding as you. He does even have to be in the house! He doesn't have to bother even kissing you! He certainly doesn't have to marry you or anything drastic like that.

God, I'd want to live with you forever too!

But that does NOT mean you should want to live with HIM forever.

Kikibanana86 · 11/09/2016 10:15

What about friends? Or you could be open with him and try to find a way one of you can move out, you might need to save for a while though. Could you do it amicably?

PushingThru · 11/09/2016 10:17

"It is strange, though, I see my OH as entirely opposite to my dad."

I'm not a psychotherapist, but I'd wager that you've done this deliberately, though. It's what attracted you to him, probably. It's probably also why you're having a hard time letting go. We don't merely replicate the relationships & dynamics we witness in our formative years, the problems present in all sorts of different ways.

user1473580924 · 11/09/2016 10:22

I'm just so worried I'll end up alone, and that I'm not strong enough to cope.

I have been told by other people that i'm really attractive, but I just can't see it. Someone came up to me once in a restaurant and said I was the most beautiful person they'd ever seen, and I just laughed. I think, if I was that pretty, my OH would think it too. If I'm attractive, why doesn't he want me? :s

If I ever go out with girl friends, I get a lot of attention, but I have always ignored it because I just want him.

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StillAgainstTheWind · 11/09/2016 10:23

Your partner may tell you he loves you but the behaviour he is showing you is not love.

Relationships do require work - compromise, putting someone's needs before your own but you should always feel valued, respected and loved. If the relationship is important then threatening to end it should make your OH want to work on the issues to avoid losing you. Instead he tells you he would rather split up than go to Relate. This is not the action of a man who cares enough.

As others have said your childhood has left your acceptance of what constitutes a good relationship really low. I'm really pleased you're going to get therapy to understand your childhood. It will really help you see relationships differently.

Even if you were able to resolve the other issues the difference in the importance of sex is not resolvable. He has a low sex drive, he actually sounds asexual to me, that won't change. Once a week in the early stages of a relationship is infrequent. You should be having lots of sex at your age. He is already affecting your self esteem by making you feel rejected. Can you imagine how you will feel being rejected for the next twenty or thirty years.

This man will not make you happy. There are plenty of men out there who will. But have the therapy and learn to love and value yourself first. Flowers

ElspethFlashman · 11/09/2016 10:24

You're young and hot. I think you should give it a try at least!

user1473580924 · 11/09/2016 10:24

Thank you all for your candid posts, it's amazing how supportive people can be to people they haven't even met. I really appreciate the advice, thank you so much.

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PacificOcean · 11/09/2016 10:27

Not many people end up with their childhood sweetheart, mainly because most people change a lot on their late teens / twenties and their partner doesn't always change in the same way. It sounds like you've outgrown this relationship. In fact, it sounds to me more like you're not that into him than he isn't that into you.

Don't let your childhood experiences mean that you end up stuck in an unfulfilling relationship.

Good luck OP Flowers

StillAgainstTheWind · 11/09/2016 10:27

I doubt you will end up alone. If lots of people are telling you you're attractive why are you disbelieving them. You are thinking you're not attractive because your DP has a low sex drive. That is him and no reflection on you.

Anyhow no relationship is better than one which makes you feel like shit.

StillAgainstTheWind · 11/09/2016 10:30

Read the opening post of the sticky thread at the top of the Relationships board. 'Right Listen up everybody'. Sorry can't manage to link.

DoreenLethal · 11/09/2016 10:35

People always say 'I'll end up alone'. Well sorry to tell you this but you pretty much are alone in this relationship!

And you are not going to find someone who is better suited to you whilst you are running around after this one.

And yes, being alone is much better than being in this relationship. Alone is much underrated - I loved my single life!

Don't settle for even another year of this when you can be out there having a fulfilling relationship/fun.

TempusEedjit · 11/09/2016 10:42

My exH also told me several times a day that he loved me, his actions however told a very different story. Having had an abusive father I was also in the "at least he doesn't hit me" mindset. My ex was my first adult relationship and I now view it as me being on the rebound from my parents if that makes sense. For many years I actually thought I had a good relationship and that's just how things worked! Finally a counsellor told me I had to start judging my relationship by what exH did do, not by what he didn't do. And what ex did do was treat me badly, he didn't somehow earn himself some extra credits by telling me he loved me and not being physically violent. Sorry to quote such a cliche but love is a verb. Your OH seems to think he can throw you the crumbs of uttering some meaningless "I love you"s to keep you happy without putting in any actual effort e.g doing his share of the household chores. How do you think he'd react if you started treating him in the same way?

wump · 11/09/2016 10:50

If a friend told you her partner of 9 years didn't want to have sex with her ever! Kiss her ever! Have a social life with her ever! Nor marry her ever! And that she felt unhappy with this what would you say to her? You are a young attractive woman in a "relationship" with someone who is not committed to you... Long term you will look back and be very glad you got out, which you know deep down you must do this man will leave you in a heartbeat if and when someone he thinks is more suitable comes along, you will meet a man who values you and wants all the things (all perfectly normal and natural) that you do, the end of this non relationship will be the start of an exciting and more fulfilling life for you. Put this down to experience learn from it move on and have fun good luck x

PacificOcean · 11/09/2016 11:22

You say he'd be a fantastic Dad, but have you actually discussed having children with him? Does he want them as much as you do?

kookiekookie · 11/09/2016 11:31

It sounds like history is repeating itself. It seems like you have taken on your mother's role and you've met a man who is just like your dad.

Tellitstraight387 · 11/09/2016 11:33

Your relationship is dead. There is no hope here believe me. If it's this bad now it will only get worse. Focus on counselling to deal with you childhood issues rather than your relationship as that is a waste of your time.

You have nothing to keep you with this man. You just need to be brave

Mummydummy · 11/09/2016 11:37

Dear OP

I'm sorry but it the relationship was come to an end. Please dont waste your life - if he's like this now its never going to change. He probably does love you but you want different things. It is very hard work bringing up children and you need him to be active and engaged. He really wont be. I think sex is an important part of the bond in a relationship and he just doesnt have any sex drive. When you have children it is hard enough to keep the relationship alive without that bond and affection. Would you be happy to never have sex again? Would your life be emptier without it?

And without wanting to be in anyway mean or glib, you do actually have to have quite a lot of sex to make babies!

However hard or unimaginable life seems without him you have to invest in yourself and the belief that life can be better than this. But it will take bravery and courage. You will have to learn to stand on your own two feet and build your own happiness and content rather than hoping a man will pop up and make you happy. (I'm not saying any of this as criticism of you). I am sure you can do it. Have faith that you can make yourself a good and happy life. xxxx

VHLV · 11/09/2016 11:38

Darling I'm sorry about your childhood experience and understand how difficult it is to let this man go as he is essentially the only man you have been with. Trust other ladies here including myself - you will meet a better man. Most of them are relatively lazy and selfish but make an effort for their woman and kids. Clearly your chap won't. With your sexual drive lots of men would be very happy to have you as their girlfriend! You are very lucky that no kids are involved. Just find a strength inside to leave this man and move forward. Think of any way that will make it easier for your to go ahead in your life. Consider all the options including moving abroad for a while! X

Shayelle · 11/09/2016 11:43

Lady!! You need to get some fire in your belly. It sounds to me like he isnt bothered either way about this rship but hes too spineless to end it. So he acts like an arse in the hope that you will.
Is THIS how you want to live the rest of your life???
No.. Didnt think so. Men like this are ten a penny. Hes has too many lessons to learn. You need to woman up now, make the decision, and go for it!! You dont have kids, get out now before the ties get stronger. You can do this xx