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I'm going to end my marriage. Please help.

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EElisavetaOfBelsornia · 28/07/2016 09:58

I need to tell my husband I want to divorce. He's been violent previously though not for about two years when he stopped drinking after punching me. He's still abusive though, shouty and unreasonable. Last night I went out with a friend, only second night out this year, H accused me of having an affair, and said he intends to start drinking again.
We have a 6 and 3 year old, and a shared mortgage, joint account. I could afford to live here alone but not to buy him out. Property prices are really high here so we would get a good sum if we sold but I would struggle to find something else near DCs' school. I also don't know how I would manage childcare alone.
Can I make H move out? I am quite scared of how he will be when I tell him. I need to do this, for myself and DCs. I have had panic attacks in the past and I'm trying to hold it together just now but I feel really alone. Anyone got any advice or able to hold my hand?

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MrsBertBibby · 28/07/2016 14:19

Oh and ignore advice about getting hold of his financial documents. It's not ok to do that, and your solicitor will send the documents straight back to him or his lawyer.

EElisavetaOfBelsornia · 28/07/2016 15:55

Thank you all. I have told another friend and she's offered to come over if needed, or have me and DCs go to hers. She also has a family member who might be able to help me find a solicitor. Thank you MrsBert for the link, I will take a look now. My friend has said she could have DCs tomorrow pm if I need to see someone.

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EElisavetaOfBelsornia · 28/07/2016 17:03

I'm going home now. I'm tired and scared, it would be very easy to take an easy route and let this slide. Please help me maintain my backbone!

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rememberthetime · 28/07/2016 18:28

Do it for your children - but stay safe.

When you feel you might waver, think about how your children are affected.

Stay strong.

ponygirlcurtis · 28/07/2016 18:30

It's only the easy route for a matter of minutes, because life with someone like this a constant struggle. See it not as hard/easy options but instead taking your first step towards an easier (and vastly better) life free from a daily struggle. It can be a long journey to get there but baby steps will get you there.

Stay safe. Don't hesitate to call the police, even if it's 101 to ask for advice if you feel scared.

MachiKoro · 28/07/2016 21:19

Hope all is well EoB Thanks

EElisavetaOfBelsornia · 29/07/2016 15:01

Thank you everyone. I spoke to H last night. He said he wanted to move out, I agreed that was a good idea. He wants to sell the house and split the equity, I have an appointment with a solicitor next week so am being non committal about that just now. Overnight he has had a change of heart and wants to try again, do counselling etc. It's too little, too late. I do feel sorry for him because he's losing a lot but need to carry on for me and for DCs. It's hard as there's a lot of guilt and emotional pressure coming my way but I'm strong so far. Please carry on supporting me.

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D0ni · 29/07/2016 15:18

I'm going through a separation also having found out last week my hubby had been cheating. We have 2 small kids.

You're right about being non-commital about the split of equity at the moment. I was have a read on this lately (certainly no expert!) and there was talk of 70/30 or 60/40 split if you are the main caregiver this may affect the number of days you can work and also you are continuing to provide that care - therefore you really are entitled to more than 50%.

My hubby is wanting to try again also - and I am so sad for our kids but I just can't do it. The trust is gone. I just wish he would accept that it's 'game over' so we could work together and move forward.

We are planning on counselling too - I'm hoping this will shed light on a few things and make him realise that I'm not changing my mind on this.

I've also had the begging and I'm going to change conversations but I feel the same as you - too little too late.

You're being very strong so far and that's good that his first reaction was that he was happy to move out.

Will you go ahead with counselling anyway to find a way forward?

Stay strong and keep yourself surrounded with friends who have your best interests at heart.

AnyFucker · 29/07/2016 15:24

He has his Mr Nice hat on as he senses you are at the end of your rope this time

He will revert to Mr Nasty when he realises it isn't working...mark my words

Which is exactly what will happen if you give in and give him another chance to hurt you. Stay strong.

CiaoVerona · 29/07/2016 15:35

Well done for talking to him last night, of course when the finality of this is dawning on him hes now suggesting you try again, don't fall for it, there is no point in trying to fix something with someone who has hit you before, he sadly won't change.

The next step, is trying to figure out whats best for you, Id take the time to see what steps work best, could well be selling releases enough equity to allow you buy some where else or it could be staying put and buying him out. Maybe family or friends can recommend a lawyer.

thestamp · 29/07/2016 15:37

Say whatever you need to say in order to get through this time, op. Don't text it, don't email it, but if you have to pretend to um and ah over counselling as you bide your time for the solicitor, do so. Do what keeps things calmer and safer.

You're very brave.

CiaoVerona · 29/07/2016 15:39

Oh, I don't see any point in counseling you're not trying to repair your marriage you've all ready decided too leave.

In fact, I think if you did choose counseling, you could find yourself being manipulated into considering giving thing's another go, to little to late.

Stick to your plan, ask him to leave....everything else can be sorted out when he's out of the house.

EElisavetaOfBelsornia · 29/07/2016 18:24

I don't want to do counselling, that point has passed. I have been suggesting it for literally years but he has never agreed. It's too late to start compromising now. You're right, it is all Mr Nice at the moment, with lots of guilt tripping too. I'm going to see a lawyer next week so it's likely to get nastier after I know my rights. Thank you for supporting me.

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Paniniswapx3 · 29/07/2016 18:32

Good luck Op, you're being very brave. Stay strong, especially thinking about your DCs & stay safe.

AvaLeStrange · 29/07/2016 18:40

Just seen your post and wanted to say well done and wish you all the best.

I left my husband earlier this week for similar reasons. He seems genuinely devastated and I have agreed that I will hold off doing anything permanent or legally binding while he tries to sort himself out and see where we go from there, but I have an uneasy feeling that his dramatic volte face won't last.

It is very hard, but feel like a huge weight has lifted now it's all out in the open.

EElisavetaOfBelsornia · 29/07/2016 20:16

Thank you. Ava and D0ni I'm sorry you're going through this too, maybe we can support each other in a hard time.

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notapizzaeater · 30/07/2016 00:28

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Stay strong, amazing how they can change/seek help when you mean business

PlacesToSee · 30/07/2016 00:32
Shock
SalemsLott · 30/07/2016 00:42

Wtf Confused

TheDonOfDons · 30/07/2016 01:01

Jesus wept Shock ^^

Stay strong OP and ignore that silly post

AvaLeStrange · 30/07/2016 04:14

Well, I guess the time of this post indicates where my head is atm!

Definitely up for some hand holding Smile.

See a solicitor pronto - I suspect in your situation you may be able to stay in the house until the DCs are grown up at least. I would imagine your issue will more likely be getting him out.

Next thing (assuming you're in the UK?) go to entitled to or turntous.co.uk and see if you will be entitled to any tax credits, and the CSA (now Child Maintenance Service) to get an idea of your financial situation.

I would also suggest putting together a lockable filing box with all relevant financial paperwork, passports, birth & marriage certificates for you and the DC, NHS/National Insurance cards (and make sure you have a note of your H's too), and a memory stick with any important photos, computer docs on. Stash it somewhere (boot of your car), maybe even with a small suitcase of clothes for you & DC, basic toiletries, spare mobile & credit card. If he does get nasty at any point you can gather the kids up and go, knowing you have your basic needs covered until you can take legal action to remove him and gain access to your home again.

Keep a record of all the incidences of his unreasonable behaviour - maybe use a memo app on mobile or tablet if you have one and it's secure?

My H was never physically violent (he did threaten me indirectly on a few occasions) but was very aggressive and intimidating in his manner - shouty, sweary, prone to sulking, stonewalling and mood swings, would throw things about under the guise of 'tidying up', slam doors etc

He is now struggling to understand how it reached a point where both DD and I are afraid of him when he never physically hurt us. He has agreed to seek counselling to help him manage his feelings/stress levels and improve his communication skills, after which I've said I may be willing to consider couples counselling/family therapy but have made it very clear that I cannot make promises for the future.

We spent the afternoon together with DD yesterday and it was fairly pleasant under the circumstances. He seems genuinely heartbroken and desperate to make things work but a tiny person in the back of my head is going Hmm.

We've been at my parents' for 3/4 days now. My mum who has been very supportive thus far and never had a great relationship with him, now feels sorry for him and seems horrified that in such a short space of time I have moved out a lot of our stuff, sorted out a tax credits application and made arrangements to write a Will. I have had to point bout to her that although it would be ideal if we could get back on track, there's no point assuming it will happen and then ending up down shit creek in 6 months time if he reverts to type.

My 11yo DD is doing incredibly well, if somewhat clingy. She said tonne the night we left, "Every time I feel sad I think of my favourite quote - without change there would be no butterflies".

Sounds like a pretty good mantra to me!

SecretsInSpitalfield · 30/07/2016 07:02

OP- please go to your local Citizens Advice .. After speaking with them ask to see a solicitor .. They will be able to get you 30 minutes for free with one (normally 1 to 2 weeks wait) good luck

EElisavetaOfBelsornia · 30/07/2016 07:22

No, I don't think a spell casting prophet is what I need right now Hmm

Ava it sounds like you're doing amazingly well, and your DD too. I think her quote will become my mantra too.
H told a mutual friend yesterday - he said we're going through a tough time. I went to see her last night, and she's ready to support both of us. She plans to invite him for a long walk today, there is a birthday party for DCs so quite easy. I need to hang onto my strength and stick with this now.

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AvaLeStrange · 30/07/2016 08:41

Glad things are ticking along ok.

I'm finding it much easier now everything is out in the open, but trying to remember how his behaviour led to this and not feel responsible for his feeling is tough.

It's good that he's telling people, I had to force my H's hand a bit with that as I think he was expecting me to roll over and move back in within a few days, but people know know. We have a large group of 'couple' friends - mostly guys he was a school with and their wives, and the result of telling them appears to be much as I expected - a few that were naturally closer to H I haven't heard from, and the couples were I also had built an independent relationship with the wives have called me to send condolences and offer support - I am seeing one of them tonight.

On the whole people are being very supportive of both of us, which is extremely fortunate.

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