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Dreading il visit

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EmberElftree · 09/05/2016 13:29

We live abroad, 7.5 hour flight from dh's parents. They are coming to visit again to see our 6 month old ds. They will be staying in a nearby hotel. They have been out once just after he was born. Spending time with them is awkward, strained, painful, sit in silence at dinner etc. dh says they've always been like that and is not just me but I wonder...

Last time they were here, 3 weeks after I'd given birth to their first gc, they totally blanked me and ds while dh page the car. I said morning loudly to them and waked towards them with massive pram and newborn ds inside and they both blanked me and just stared at our car. Across the car park which dh was parking.

Mil makes frequent little comments to me such as:

Slagging off Carole vorderman saying how much she hates her. Couple of hours later I teased dh about something and mil says "oh, who're you? Carole vorderman?"

Sitting at il dining table eating breakfast ,minding my own business when il cat bites me on the foot. I jump and reach down to my foot saying" Ow il cat just bit me". Complete silence then mil says "well cats are a good judge of character"

Eating dinner in silence as usual and completely out of the blue mil says "I remember when mrember was allergic to girls with long hair". Many more little remarks which all add up.

Mil upon seeing an Indian wedding " I expect we're the wrong colour to go to that wedding". My sil is indian and my nephews are mixed race.

Fil first thing he said to me when he first saw me and we picked them up, 3 weeks after son was born "oh, I didn't expect you would be here, ember".

It's all in the tone of how it's said, none of these things are said in a jovial, jokey manner. The last straw for me was when they refused to take my dads suit back to Lahr with them as a favour. My mum was going to meet them at the gate and take it off them but they refused. Fil said "we've got our own bags to carry, ember"

Me and dh had a huge row about them, this was in jan 2014. I threw him out he stayed in a Novotel in town. I know I have a dh problem as he won't stand up for me and let's them say and do these things.

The last horrendous thing is fil sent my dh a birthday letter along with a bit of paper with a poem on it which he had read at his own mothers funeral. No idea why he sent this to dh for his birthday but dh's parents do and say many inexplicable things. When I turned the piece of paper over, fil had written on it:

the title of the poem
As read by (fil)
At the funeral of (my son's full name)

I got such a shock seeing that written down with my son's name, my whole stomach flipped and I gasped, I felt sick and shouted oh god whys he written that. Dh snatched he paper from me saying, written what? Dh's face fell when he saw it and he said well ds obviously written that by mistake...but why? Dh won't speak o his dad about it.

I feel sick at the thought of having to spend time with these people but they are dh's parents. I can't live he rest of our lives with this anger, anxiety and sadness every time we have to see them. What can I do? Dh refuses to speak to them in case he upsets them but doesn't mind them upsetting me Sad

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EmberElftree · 10/05/2016 09:00

He is a bit of a drama llama but doesn't mean he would kill himself over his parents. He would honestly rather do anything but confront them. He says he doesn't know why but he literally squirms just talking about it. He definitely needs therapy. We talked about it today and have agreed to get this sorted together. I am brutally honest with him, not in a nasty way, just how I feel when they do/say things and he feels the same yet neither of us address it so it continues. Will take courage from your advice on here and do it!

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Iamdobby63 · 10/05/2016 09:25

Is your DH an only child? It reads like he was their world/possession and can't accept he has grown up and someone else might actually be more important in his life than them. Very odd for grandparents to be so disconnected (cruel)with their grandchild.

Next Mother's Day/birthday send her a wreath and see how she likes it! Lol

EmberElftree · 10/05/2016 10:35

Yes Dobby he's an only child. Dh feels under so much pressure from them as he has been their sole focus for the last 38 years. He has hear arrhythmia today stressing about them Sad I'd hate for my son to ever feel as remotely bad as dh does about his parents and this whole situation.

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EmberElftree · 10/05/2016 10:36

*Heart arrhythmia

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GiddyOnZackHunt · 10/05/2016 10:57

If it helps, I found myself in much the same situation and lived with it for 10 years. DH just wanted to avoid the issue because it was too big. Eventually a combination of me helping his self confidence and the strange behaviour affecting our dc made him stand up and say "This is wrong". That set in motion a chain of events that culminated in an IL flounce and instruction not to contact them. By that time DH was happy to do as he was told. And we lived happily and quietly.

Iamdobby63 · 10/05/2016 10:57

Does he actually have a heart condition or does he just have palpitations? I don't think it's contrived on his part (hopefully not anyway) but his palpitations and stating he could shoot himself are ways he is hoping you will just let it go because you can see the affect on him.

It's interesting that he is so stressed about it. Maybe just feels stuck in the middle, obviously they are overbearing but I wonder what his upbringing was like.

You can perhaps not stress about the small stuff and just learn to use sarcasm with them but the poem is another thing altogether, they just need to know how offensive and upsetting it was and they need to learn to be more sensitive. If they think you are being too sensitive then ask how would they feel if you were to actually send them a wreath for an occasion.

EmberElftree · 10/05/2016 11:10

Yes giddy that's it he physically feels the enormity of it yet I said we have gone through worse things than pointing out your parents unreasonable behaviour to them. We will get through this too. Are your ils still in the huff?

Dobby, he says he is stuck in the middle. I said he is not because they have no clue how they are affecting us as dh won't tell them. He had an argument with them when I was pregnant and told them they should not have refused to take my dad's suit back to lhr with them. That their behaviour there was unacceptable. That was a first step.

Now this poem thing needs to be addressed. From now on when mil makes her nasty comments to me I will call her on them each and every time. Sorry mil can you pls repeat that? Etc.

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EmberElftree · 10/05/2016 11:11

No thankfully his heart is healthy we saw a cardiologist a couple of years ago and all ok but he does get these palpitations when really stressed. Hasn't had them for a couple of years but he says he has them today.

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EmberElftree · 10/05/2016 11:16

He is always saying we are a team but I said we are not when it comes to your parents. But this is what we have to be from now on and present a united front. Team ember! I feel better about the whole thing now thank you. Dobby, the small stuff ie mil remarks I will sweep aside and address as and when she fires them out. Will have the discussion about the poem though. Do you think I should let dh take the lead on that then? I don't want it to be a embers upset because you said this that and the other. I want it to be dh telling them how what fil wrote affected us you know?

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Iamdobby63 · 10/05/2016 13:31

He should take the lead and it's better if he would.

Glad you are feeling better and although it's difficult for him you are both on the same page. Good luck and let us know how it goes.

EmberElftree · 10/05/2016 13:39

Thanks Dobby. He's just got in and I proposed we address the poem with dh taking the lead and agree to present a united front in future at all times. He agrees this is the best plan. He said he has to go to see someone to sort out all of his issues with his parents and wants to see someone before his parents arrive so he can address it all with them. Eureka finally! Will update once they've been and gone...

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Iamdobby63 · 10/05/2016 14:19

Fantastic! Really good that he recognises that this isn't normal and is willing to seek help, hopefully if he gets a good perspective it will reduce his stress on this issue.

GiddyOnZackHunt · 10/05/2016 17:47

Ooh that's good :)
ILs divorced so only one of them flounced. DH refuses to engage any more so no idea whether they're still huffing Grin but I doubt things have been learned.

RedMapleLeaf · 10/05/2016 18:23

I think you should be more compassionate towards your husband.

Hissy · 10/05/2016 19:05

Have a look at toxic parents book. That may help, and he can read it at his own pace.

Hissy · 10/05/2016 19:09

Poor man, they have him so terrified of falling out of favour with them it's buggering up his heart beat!

He really needs to sort this out for him and for you, this could kill him eventually.

It is not normal to have heart palpitations and the thought of your parents!

Hissy · 10/05/2016 19:10

At th thought

PuellaEstCornelia · 11/05/2016 07:01

Personally, I would forget the poem thing. Your in laws are clearly nutters, and all it will do is cause stress and trauma. You won't change their minds. You and your husband know they are wrong; they are never going to agree and will use it as a big stick to beat you with.
Concentrate on containing them during their visit. Treat them like recalcitrant toddlers. ' I beg your pardon?' ' How rude' ' we don't speak to people like that in this house' and so on.
Your husband clearly has deep seated issues, and while I'm all in favour of getting him help, it's going to be tough so maybe protect him a little until he does begin to deal with it.
Remember, you wouldn't take it from a stranger, you don't have to take it from them!

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