Queen So pleased you've found someone. I completely agree that I need to be comfortable with myself. I think that's the main thing. I don't expect a man to 'fix' me. In fact, the last thing I want is to be 'saved' or 'rescued'. I've done a lot of work on myself over the past few months and I can see a difference in me. other people say that they can see it too. So it's not that I feel I need a man to complete me and I do get that, even if I did meet someone, it wouldn't make the past all better. I suppose it's just that the 'better' I get, more keenly I feel it. That so many years have been wasted.
Princess Thanks. Yes, that's what I'm hoping for. That I'll just meet someone, one day... when I least expect it... Thing is, I do want the butterflies. I was in a loveless, sexless, passionless marriage for too long. I'm not ready to hang that up yet. I do want the butterflies!
electric Welcome! I completely agree. See everyone is saying the same thing; that it's about learning to love yourself. I spent a long time despising myself and being incredibly cruel to myself. I wouldn't say I've learnt to 'love' myself yet. But I can see that there may be a point in the future where I can. I have a very good friend who has helped me along the way with this. She has been amazing. That's exactly how I approached online dating too. As a bit of a laugh and a bit of fun. Someone to chat with and go out with if I wanted to. But it feels a bit soulless and empty now! I'm not sure I would look for someone seriously online anymore.
Discovering the 'real' me is where I am right now.
Marvellous funny that so many of us are saying the same thing! I really don't 'need' anyone. I think a lot of men like the idea of a woman who isn't going to challenge them or make any demands or have any expectations of them. That's why so many women put up with so much crap and why so many men offer so little. I know that the two men I ended things with were both indignant that I'd done so, yet neither of them seemed particularly interested in me when we were going out. Well no, that's not true. They had both seemed interested, but they also seemed equally, if not more, interested in every passing woman. I might be 41, but I think I look pretty ok for my age. I'm not pandering to a man who thinks I should be 10 years younger!
And yeah, I think a lot of women would be horrified if they realised just how many married me are hitting on their newly single/divorced friends...
crazy it is the hard bit. The amount of time my children spend with their dad has decreased over the years now that his guilt has subsided somewhat... we are still flexible in our contact arrangements, which suits both of us. But it does make it tricky. I have that book! I think I bought every self help book going over the first two years after we split up!! There was some useful stuff to take from it. But it wasn't quite 'enough' for what I needed. I have a lot of unresolved childhood issues that impact on all of it. I work full time too. Although i do have school holidays off. Unfortunately, I work a lot during the evenings and at weekends too. But I do try and find a balance as much as I can. But you're right, it is difficult to find time.
I really hate the thought of another 5 or so years passing and still not having met someone. Just because I would like to. I kind of am happy on my own. Although I do need to work out who/what I really am.
I feel like a continual failure too. I see friends who've been married for 20 years or more now... But then, I know that, if you scratch the surface, not all of them are happy. There seem to be a lot of functional but not happy marriages. And I wouldn't want to be in one of those anymore for anything!
summer I've had various flavours of counselling to try and sort it out since I was about 18 and had no understanding of what the issue really was at that point. I'm currently on the waiting list for CBT. The bottom line is, that my mother had her own issues and, whilst my physical needs were met, emotionally they weren't. I have chronically low self esteem and confidence. I'm trying really hard to address it all, but it's really tough and I'm still at the stage of not really understanding why anyone is loved, let alone how I could be. I was brought up with a constant narrative of why no one would want/love me. It didn't occur to me until a couple of years ago that there might actually be some good things about me. I just completely believed that I was wrong and broken and worthless and unloveable.
hevs That's so hard. (((hugs))) At least you're getting help from CAMHS now. That's like gold dust in my area! I hope that once things improve for your son, you can find a way forward in your own life. I don't have anything to add. Like you say, our experiences and feelings are echoing each others. For so many of us.
How can it be so hard?!!
DrSeth It seems ridiculous, doesn't it? How can something that is just so fundamentally human also be so elusive? My exh met someone else when we were together. I find it hard to say it was an affair; the marriage was effectively over anyway. But it seems to have been so easy for him. And he's not a great catch. He's not wealthy, he lives back at home with his parents, he's very overweight, he's really quite ordinary. Yet he has been out with a few women who were all younger than him and very attractive! He is with someone now and it seems to be getting quite serious. I don't understand how. I'm not saying he doesn't deserve it; we all deserve to be happy! But I don't understand how it has just come so easily to him.
And no, I don't really meet single men. When I do, they are looking for someone younger or are too young for me themselves.
Colsgirl What a lovely story! Yeah you're right, I probably wouldn't want to look in an AA meeting!!
But a lot of what you said really resonated with me. I had a lot of fun for the first couple of years, did some crazy stuff and got some stuff ticked off my bucket list. Now I'm working on the 'discovering the real me' bits and it's harder. I do have a better understanding of myself than I ever have before. But I'm not there yet.
I think the counselling/therapy seems to be the way to go. I'm going to wait and see what this CBT throws up. I had common or garden counselling before and, as lovely as she was, it was clear to both of us, I think, that she was completely out of her depth.
I suppose i can see how i'd be more capable of a relationship if I understood myself better. But I have no chance of getting there, when I haven't got the fundamentals covered of men finding me attractive.
It's oddly comforting, but also worrying and sad that there are so many of us in the same boat!