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Nightmare evening meeting the family

97 replies

Roseflowers · 02/04/2016 15:28

Wise ladies of mumsnet, I need your opinions please, apologies if this is long. Boyfriend and I went for dinner last night with his two brothers and their respective partners (girlfriend and sister in law). I have met brother 1 and girlfriend before and got on great with them, but not brother 2 and sister in law. Him and I have been together for almost six months now. Dinner was hosted at their house, really informal affair.

I didn't really say very much, being in a new environment etc, but towards the end of the evening I get a text from boyfriend (who was sitting right next to me) saying that I was being too negative and that I had to be more positive. I'd just told an anecdote directly related to the conversation about someone that I worked with, and ended up, sort of by accident, talking about some of his more negative characteristics (to give the anecdote more context), but had trailed off a bit awkwardly. I was immediately pretty shocked and embarrassed that a) he thought this, and that b) he would do that whilst I was still sitting around the dinner table in a bloody unfamiliar social situation, thus making me feel incredibly uncomfortable and embarrassed.

Afterwards, when I got home I texted him telling him how upsetting and quite frankly rude I'd found him doing that, at which point he told me that I'd been nothing but negative all night, and that I was 'affecting' everyone at the dinner table, because I had
a) Agreed with brother 1 and girlfriend that working in the service industry was difficult (I used to do the same job as them, and they directly asked me for my opinion). Apparently this meant I was 'going on about how soul destroying their jobs are and bringing them down' when actually I specifically said several positive things to counterbalance the negative stuff I said! His sister in law, who had never done the job, had also joined in and said some negative stuff about it.
b) Agreed with him when he was telling a story about a daft housemate about how silly said housemate was
c) Told this anecdote about workmate, which ended up with me saying he was basically a rubbish person who boasted about doing horrible things like weeing on people in nightclubs. I was just trying to give the story a little more context, but probably failed and went a bit past the mark, I admit. His brother then made a sarcastic comment at my expense. Maybe I was a little negative there, but pretty much everyone around the table had moaned or been negative about someone by that point in the evening, including his brother and sister having a rant about how much they hated their lodger whom none of us had ever met.
d) Made a comment to his sister in law, a vet, about the fact that she probably had to euthanize a lot of animals over the years she'd worked as a vet! This was after his brothers girlfriend had directly pressed her to tell everyone about the most distressing euthanisation she'd had to do, and so I was hardly digging in the knife anymore than anyone else at the table was!

He basically told me that he'd 'had' to 'intervene' and text me because I was being such a Debbie downer and that I'd missed several social queues which should have told me what a misery I was, and how shocked they all were by what I was saying, and that if he hadn't inervened things would have 'only gotten worse' (!) Now, if I was making bloody racist and off colour jokes, or arguing with people, or getting embarrassingly drunk I could understand, but all I (thought) I'd done was contribute to a few conversations, when apparently I was actually this black hole of misery and poor form all night. Consequently, I now feel like absolute shit. Was I out of order? Or was boyfriend just being an arse? There are other issues re. his family and how he makes me feel at the moment that are also getting to me, and at several points on the way to this dinner he had already made me feel pretty shit, and I don't really know what to do about it all.

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Duckdeamon · 02/04/2016 17:01

This wasn't quite the first red flag: his over anxiety about what others think of you/him, weirdness with introducing the colleague like that then getting cross with your comment; and (the biggie) hiding you from his parents and making his siblings complicit in that.

magpie17 · 02/04/2016 17:04

My ex husband used to do this. He started by doing it after the fact, telling me that my story during dinner (or whatever social occasion) was too long or depressing or whatever and did I not notice everyone looking bored. This then progressed to him interrupting my anecdotes to say things like 'oh here she goes again, Magpie always tells really boring stories'.

He is an ex for a reason. This kind of thing really eats away at your confidence and self-esteem. I ended up very socially anxious and would try not to speak in group situations. Funnily enough nobody seems to have had a problem with my demeanour since we split...

WastingTime123 · 02/04/2016 17:05

He's been really unfair to you and quite mean. If he had a major issue (and from your description it doesn't sound like you were behaving inappropriately at all) he could have raised it later, not throw you off guard when you're nervous anyway and making an effort with his family. I don't think there's 'no going back' but I wouldn't let him off this lightly, it's controlling and a red flag.

Valentine2 · 02/04/2016 17:08

Funny that it occurred to me after reading original post only that there is some religion involved here. There is not a word in your post and I can't really point exactly what made me think this but still. I also have a good arsehole detector it seems. 😹

wiccamum · 02/04/2016 17:09

Oh dear, he doesn't sound like a catch. Put it like this- would you stay with a man who gave you a written report on your behaviour at the end of the evening? An appraisal before meeting the parents? Exactly, no you wouldn't.

I'm with everyone else, head for them hills lady

aintnothinbutagstring · 02/04/2016 17:21

What's the betting his parents are lovely but unlucky for them, spawned a twat like him. Get rid OP.

mamager · 02/04/2016 17:28

OP I don't have anything to say that hasn't been said. Relationship are supposed to make you happy, not anxious and second guessing yourself.

Never analyse a conversation in the cold light of the next day - it's like doing a stand-up routine at a funeral.

You may not feel like smiling now, but listen to the wise words of Samantha SATC anyway

Zaurak · 02/04/2016 17:33

Read through some of the threads in relationships about women who are trying to leave men like this, after fifteen years of marriage and a couple of kids.
They all tell of how these red flags were there at the start. But they ignored them because (insert reason)

Run.

newname99 · 02/04/2016 17:33

I think the fact he can hide who he is from his parents is a red flag.My friends husband was like this, lied to his parents to project the image he thought they wanted.He was excellent at lying and managed to have an affair without her knowing.

If he avoids conflict through lying to protect his image then you will be on the receiving end of his lies at some stage in your relationship. He is showing you what he is capable of.

LeaLeander · 02/04/2016 17:36

Run from this asshole as fast as you can.

There are a lot of experienced, wise people on this message forum and you don't see anyone urging you to stay, do you? It will not be very long AT ALL before you regain perspective and realize just what a jackass he is and how smart you were to dump him.

LoisWilkersonsLastNerve · 02/04/2016 17:40

My dh drones on and on sometimes in company, I wouldn't dream of telling him what to say or dissect his behavior like that. Its controlling red flag behavior to me op. Sorry.

DoreenLethal · 02/04/2016 17:48

apparently the logic is this; his parents, and all his siblings are very religious, and don't believe in sex/ sleeping in the same bed/ living together before marriage

And yet you were with his brother and his girlfriend.

Please don't fall for this bullshit. It's a set up to gaslight you for years and years of moaning that you are so negative about everything thus making him the golden rod.

Do you really want to be in another abusive relationship? As that is where this is going.

XIsACunt · 02/04/2016 18:05

he is essentially hiding my existence from his parents

This alone is the reason why you should seriously consider ending this relationship.

Why does the fact his parents are religious Impact him acknowledging your existence?

expatinscotland · 02/04/2016 18:07

This man is waving more flags than a Maoist convention and shows every sign of being abusive. You need to dump him now. No more talks, chats, etc. Text him, 'This relationship isn't working for me so I am ending it now. Do not contact me anymore.' And then block, delete, etc.

AttilaTheMeerkat · 02/04/2016 18:11

Why are you and he actually together at all?. What have you got out of this?.

I would now block and delete him before you become ever more hurt. he has more red flags than a Communist party committee meeting.

I would also suggest that you spend some time on your own after you end this relationship and enrol on the Women's Aid Freedom Programme as you have been in an abusive relationship before now.

Aspergallus · 02/04/2016 18:15

Anyone else thinking Rob and Helen?

DisgraceToTheYChromosome · 02/04/2016 18:58

Yup. Run like fuck.

BolshierAryaStark · 02/04/2016 19:09

Fuck that, what an absolute fucking knob.
Run for the hills & do not look back.

LuluJakey1 · 02/04/2016 19:18

Just dump him and take pleasure from knowing you did it. Don't let him control or belittle you.

Roseflowers · 02/04/2016 20:16

Wellie has re-iterated that apparently despite the fact that his family all loved me and thought I was great, he is still adamant that my behaviour needed 'regulating' as I wouldn't 'regulate myself'. Creepy. As. Fuck.

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Wherediditland · 02/04/2016 20:18

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Roseflowers · 02/04/2016 20:19

*well he

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gamerchick · 02/04/2016 20:20

Please say you've dumped his arse?

RudeElf · 02/04/2016 20:23

Is it just me that thinks it weird you opened a text and read it while at the dinner table as a guest in someone's house Confused thats pretty bad manners. Same to him for texting you!

RudeElf · 02/04/2016 20:25

And odd that his brother thought it ok to make a sarcastic comment at your expense having only just met you.