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I want him out

72 replies

sarah48999 · 26/03/2016 08:29

I've been with my partner for nearly four years and 9 months ago we had a baby. The problem is my partner is like Jekyll and Hyde and it's got worse in the last 9 months. The relationship started off good, got increasingly crappy a while later where he became overly jealous and hated me going out. Then a year and abit ago it started to improve. At his worse he calls me all names under the sun, he picks on the things he knows will bother me .
He states I'm a bad mother to my children ( 1 from a previous relationship)
He accuses me of neglect of my child.
He's constantly stating I have mental health issues ( which is ironic because I work in mental health)
He slates my lifestyle, my family.
He states i have no friends.
Basically he will use any topic he knows will bother me.
I've been with him four years and he detested my old house which I rented so I set up home in a different area , getting myself on the property ladder alone. I then spent money on all the things he said I needed. I quit smoking , cut down on drinking alcohol and got a better job, all which he had moaned about. He remained living with his mum35 miles away but came down often.
At one point during our relationship things were going alright we talked about having a baby , as a result I came of coil on got pregnant. Throughout the pregnancy he was great but from day one of giving birth he was a nightmare. We planned to give birth near his neck of the woods to be closer to him because of work which meant me spending four weeks living with his mum. straight after giving birth the plan was to drive to my home where he'd be moving in, however straight after giving birth he made me go to his mums for five hour where his mum then cried on the doorstep because his mum was leaving home ( he's 35). We then has to make the journey countless times back to see his family.
I struggled with breastfeeding but he wasn't supportive stating if I couldn't do it I should stop, and later stating I was neglecting the baby by doing so as my milk was low.
He accused me of neglect numerous time.
He'd threaten to baby off me and give him to his mum who was more capable of looking after him.
I cook two main meals from scratch every night at different times because he doesn't like warming food up , I clean and ironed although often got behind . He now sends his clothes to his mums to be ironed because I don't iron them the way he likes. He states I do nothing. I've recently gone back to work full time and changed jobs during maternity leave. He's still screams that his time off is his time and he passes the baby back to me as soon as I give him too him. We now pay his mum to look after the baby 35 miles away it's not what I want because it's 35 miles away but I have no say My partner still works over there and travels 1 hour to get to work every day.
He's constantly sleeping at his mums and recently left me for week with the kids because he had a throat infection. Hardly any of his stuffs here.
He's constantly grumpy I feel uncomfortable around him in my own house and often sit upstairs
If I go out the following day he gets worse ,argues with me ,leaves me to look after the children, throws low blow comments
He's has a 1950s attitude to relationship and it drives me mad.
He works 5-6 days a week , he's a manager and speaks to me like one of his employees.
He'd constantly critiding me and my. Parenting ,he tells me his family don't like me .
In a nutshell i want him gone!
I've told him to go before and he's happily gone but after a few days he just lets himself back in ,sleeps and pretends nothing happened. He never apologises. He worms his way back in through the children by taking them out and playing more with them . He's always been great with my eldest.
I can't take anymore of his constant evil comments and insults and it would be so much easier to live alone .his do I keep him out for good ? Without getting any other people involved and with him still being able to see the kids?
Any advice would've appreciated sorry if this doesn't make sense I'm exhausted

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Hissy · 26/03/2016 09:36

You don't want an abusive man having Contact with kids!!

He screams? He fucks off.

His mother is his problem.

Make arrangements that suit you and the children. That way, everyone that needs to be happy IS happy.

Be very sure to end the childcare situation with his mother or she will be able to take you to court and demand access.

I know you're scared, but you're in a burning building, you have to trust strangers who have see what you've seen and no longer have dv chemicals polluting our atmospheres. You have to leap into the unknown and get this dreadful man out of your lives as fast and as permanently as possible (legally Smile)

Chocolatteaddict1 · 26/03/2016 09:37

Books my piss when blokes ground women down so much they struggle to realise it's actually not that hard to fuck them off Angry

dunfightin · 26/03/2016 09:51

Best thing I ever did was not to rely on abusive ex for childcare - it cut one area of possible control. Find an alternative.
It's hard for kids not to see the other parent every day after a split, however do you want them thinking anger, unexplained disappearances and man childishness is the way to function as an adult?
No reason for you to be sorry for him. If he hadn't chosen to behave like this then he wouldn't be in this position - his actions, his consequences.

Stripyhoglets · 26/03/2016 11:54

He should have been nicer to you then he wouldn't be facing being a weekend dad or his mum not having any work. Not your problem. He's brought it all on himself and u have already put up with too much yourself.

seasideview · 26/03/2016 12:31

Blimey, just get rid of him. He sounds truly awful. You don't deserve this nonsense.

Next time he's at his Mummy's house, change the locks. Place his stuff on the step.

Do NOT let him into your home. If he breaks in, call the Police.

If you find him hard to deal with, face to face, write him a Dear John Letter.

You will be entitled to 30 hours of free child care a week (I think when baby is 3?) Need to check that, as I'm out of touch a bit.

Don't forget, you can claim Child Tax Credits.

Do not feel sorry for him. He's not your problem to solve. This sis only happening to him, because he is an abusive man child. Not your problem.

Imagine the relief you will feel, when he is gone. Bliss!

sarah48999 · 26/03/2016 12:34

He gone now , finally after hours of screaming.
He basically didn't want to be with me anyway or so he says , he hates living down here and doesn't believe he's done anything wrong
I've agreed for him to take our youngest Monday and stay over night then we will take it from there and it gives me time to arrange childcare as I'm in work all week including Monday and it bank holiday and the nurseries not open. He's adamant he wants him to stay at his mums over night during the week as well as during the weekend and said he will seek out a lawyer if he doesn't get what he wants.
I reminded him that I've never not let him see him , but it won't be under his strict rules .

My partner grew up with his dad after both parent cheated and separated when he was young . I never fully understood why he went to live with his father.

I've always feared that my partner may manipulate me into thinking he would be best to live with my partner.
Sometimes I can't think straight I worry that I make the wrong decisions that might have a bad effect on my children .

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cestlavielife · 26/03/2016 12:37

you are going to need to get outside support.
start by calling womens aid.
stop feeling guilty for him or his mother.
go see a solicitor
read up on how court works for child arrangements as to where and when he can see the child /. not your problem if he has to take him out to soft play or library etc.

your DC that are not his dont need to see him yes they might miss him but they wil get over it.
the dc that is his you need to go thru processses properly.

you are going to need legal advice and help.
and be prepared to call 999 when he gets angry and reacts aggressively.

you can do this. dont let your dc and yourself down.

OurBlanche · 26/03/2016 12:37

Keep coming back here. This is what MN is best at. You get a lot of other perspectives, support and advice to help you from falling back into 'bad habits' of believing what an abusive ex tells you is true.

It is one of the joys of the place: the bad experiences of others can help make crap times easier/more understandable for you.

You can rely on someone here calling you an idiot and applying boot to bum, as needed Smile

Good luck xx

cestlavielife · 26/03/2016 12:38

oh cross post good now stick to it. dont let him back this time. change locks.

Budgetbust · 26/03/2016 12:47

If nothing else remember that he doesn't get the final say. Getting a lawyer means nothing. It's the court that will decide and they won't place a baby away from its mother unless there is extreme abuse/neglect.

He can bluster all he wants, just see him as he is a man toddler having yet another tantrum

ImperialBlether · 26/03/2016 12:53

Who on earth said that his mother could get "partial custody" just because she looks after the child a few days a week? That is ridiculous! A childminder couldn't claim custody and nor can a MIL, ffs. Stop trying to wind up the situation.

OP, can you take a couple of weeks off work to sort out a childminder nearby? It's ridiculous that your child has to travel so far to be cared for. You should be able to find a lovely childminder or nursery close to home and now that that twat's gone, your life should greatly improve.

sarah48999 · 26/03/2016 12:56

Hopefully it won't get to that. I think I'm pretty reasonable . He's stayed away a few times without seeing his son . So I think when things calm down they will be much easier. If he didn't have his mum I don't think he'd be fighting as much , he's rarely had his son alone as in the past if I got to work or go somewhere he takes the youngest to spend time with his mum for the day.
I definitely do need a kick up the bum . Odviously is want things to be different , but it's not

I don't like the idea of not being with my son when I can.

For future reference what would everyone class as reasonable in regards to access for the father per week etc

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sarah48999 · 26/03/2016 12:59

I cant take anytime off work unfortunately I've only just started. I'm a mental health nurse , so I'd let a lot of people down. My eldest goes to a before and after school club that's also s nursery and I kniw they have places

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summerwinterton · 26/03/2016 13:01

Contact is not something he can blackmail you over. Contact is normally EOW and one night during the week. Bloody let him get a lawyer.

And his mother getting custody - I highly doubt that is true! What a load of shite some folk spout here.

But you need Women's Aid and the Freedom Programme and some counselling too to work out why the hell you tolerate this abusive git. WA will also provide access to a lawyer too.

He no longer sets foot in your home, you need to claim working tax and maintenance too and you need to not rely on him for any childcare.

Chocolatteaddict1 · 26/03/2016 13:05

At this stage op I wouldnt let him take the baby baby as he doesn't actually have to give him you back. Take imperials advice and try take some days off - even if you pull sick days. If he keeps your youngest you will end up paying him CS. The courts don't automatically side with the mother these days do you really have to be careful especially when the father is already pushing for youngest to stay there through the week and threatening lawyer.

Now he is gone put the breaks on everything and ring around solicitors on Monday morning. Some will give you a little advice but you do have to ring around.

He is a bully. He is already threatening you with a lawyer do please protect yourself.

I've seen too many of my friends get absolutly hammered because they didnt go through the court process first.

mortgagefreesoon5 · 26/03/2016 13:10
  1. Send the neanderthal, with Oedipus complex, back to his mum, never ever to let him back again.

2.Get alternative childcare, an au pair, swap childcare with another mum etc you can do it.
3.Be happy. From your post I can tell that you are strong , independent, had working and resourceful person, you don't need him, you are worth so much more.
You can do it
X

mortgagefreesoon5 · 26/03/2016 13:14

And yes, do get some legal advice, he sounds like a first class prick.
Access normally is two days every other weekend plus a weekday every other wk, hope it helps

Hissy · 26/03/2016 15:16

Do not give your children to a man who screams for hours.

You're a mental health nurse, you're used to seeing the ten/adult repercussions of access to abusive parents then. Step back from this nasty man and protect your kids.

He wants access, make him work for it.

Contact us for the benefit of the children. That's it.

This man won't be of any benefit to them at all and he's using them to get to you and hurt you.

Guiltypleasures001 · 26/03/2016 15:16

I'll,repeat a previous post of not letting baby go with him on Monday, it's allowing him from the start to dictate the rules, I agree he'll use the child as a bargaining chip and with hold from you.

You have 48hrs to arrange effective cover for Tues or if you can take some holiday leave or tell them what's happened. Thanks whatever you do from now on sets the scene, and let him take you to court for access if need be.

Hissy · 26/03/2016 15:23

Grand parents do not have any rights to access to grand children.

They have to apply to court to be considered for judgement. If there is no established regular contact, bringing action against the parent(s) is unlikely.

In this case the gp has a record of regular and established contact.

No they won't get custody, but they may have a shot at contact

Hissy · 26/03/2016 15:26

Parents have a right to emergency leave to arrange childcare, you have 48 hours head start on that.

Do not allow this man to take the child

Hissy · 26/03/2016 15:27

I he kicks off, call the police.

You need to get the dv and abuae registered any way. Go and see your dr and get it logged there too. Health visitor, everyone

sarah48999 · 26/03/2016 16:44

He's not abusive to the children . He's verbally insulting to me but never physical.
I don't think it would benefit my youngest to keep him away from his father, although I'm sure his mum would be watching him most of the time.

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summerwinterton · 26/03/2016 16:53

Well if he is abusing you in front of them then they are being abused. You do need to report it. Having everything on record will likely serve you well in the future

Hissy · 26/03/2016 17:20

Your children are directly exposed to abuse.

Your children are learning how to be abused in their own lives, as this is what is being modelled for them.

Your ex WILL hurt and harm the children to get at you. They ALL do.

You seriously need to do some proper research into what a man like this is, and how abusers are all boringly predictable.

You're a MH professional and you're not seeing what's happening to your family, you won't be the first or last, but you must listen to what is being said here and limit the exposure your children have to a man so deeply flawed as this.