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Im a mess

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sadmommy · 04/01/2007 14:15

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sadmommy · 04/01/2007 14:16

I am a regula poster but have changed my name, so if you know me PLEASE don't out me.
This is long so i will understand if passed by just needed to let it out.

I am so unhappy and i only really have me to blame, i met my hubby when we were both very young, we were each others first and we got married and had two lovely children.
The problem is me, i grew up in a family without my dad, my mother's mother banned him from the house, he was a drunk and they were not married, he was around but died when i was still only a child.
My mother and grandmother took every chance to tell me how i was a mistake, unwanted, stupid (im dyslexic)and ugly, i grew up with no sence of worth and no self esteem. I was bullied at school and so just kept to myself and tryed to avoid school as much as possible, got no O or A levels and ended up in jobs i never really liked but was never going to be the pathologist or vet i had always wanted to be.
The only person who has ever loved me for me is my soon to be ex hubby. My family (although very close in somethings) are very demanding and every week there is a different crisis, hubby found it hard that i was always rushing off to help with what ever was wrong now.
My sister has had a lot of problems and my mother has had a few breakdowns. Hubby says he was never put first and i know he is right, but at the time i always thought that if i could just sort out my family then they would love me and be happy and if they were happy then i could be happy, i now see i will spend the rest of my life like this and no one will love me, but now its too late.
Hubby and i started to exhist and not really do anything, our eldest child has SN and the youngers is just a handfull, im a very bad mom, i shout at my children all the time, and i know i will make them the same as me, DS1 is being bullied at school, is withdrawn and cross all the time and DS2 is always having a tantrum about something, they only have to be in the same room as each other to fight and take no notice of me at all.
Hubby and i were always shouting at each other or them and no matter what i did i felt so alone, i chucked out all the fizzy drink and crap and begged Hubby to help me reinforce the rules of bed time home work ect, i felt so alone and no matter how hard i tried i was always wrong, i had to make all the phone calls i had to go to all the Dr.s and hospital appointments i had to make all the desicions and i could not do it alone i needed help. At the same time my mum (who i get on much better with now sinse i had the kids and who is the goddess of babysitters) under minds me all the time, i say no kids go to nanna.
All this time Hubby and me just grew apart everything was a battle, and as for a sex life we had none, although i have never really needed or wanted much in the way of sex (not wanting to go in to too much detail but i was molested when i was about 10).
Hubby likes sex and is in to porn big time, would have mags, videos,dvds then we got internet.
I felt degraded that he would watch these things then want to do them to me, i wanted less sex as i was hurt, he watched more porn, i was more hurt, more rows, porn got worst, family always wanting something, kids always fighting,no money,all the desicions down to me, ENOUGH.
Enter a friend of ours who we have known for 5 or so years, we get on well i talk to him and its nice to have a conversation about everything and nothing, hes younger the me and i tend to mother him a bit, as hubby goes out with his friends i go out with mine and we talk and laugh and i tell him how sad i am how bad things are and he can see for himself. He listens i flirt with him abit and i feel 26 and like im fun to be with and i like the feeling. I want to feel like this, but the same time im a married woman, so i tell hubby i think i have feelings for xxxx and hubby does not care, i spend 18 months in a hell of not knowing what i want as my friend has fallen for me and wants me to be with him, part of me wants to but part of me wants to be with hubby, i beg hubby to go to relate with me, he wont, i beg him to tell me what he wants he wont, all he says is its up to yuo, my friend paints a picture of support and fun and a life with out all the stress i have, all i do is hurt everyone and in the end without even meaning to i leave hubby.
My friend get a bigger house and in to debut and we plod on, and i love him i really do but with out hubby i am nothing i am sad, hubby is still looking at and lying about the porn, and its getting worse, all i have done is hurt people and let people down, my new partner wants to marry me and i dont know what i want, i ask hubby why he never said he wanted me to stay and he said because i did not love you enough at the time.
I know i have done wrong, i know i have hurt people, i know i cant make it right.
My sons get on well with my partner but really want to go home, i don't fit in to his world at all he is very smart his parents and sister all have phd's half the time i have no idea what they are talking about, i feel he should be with someone worthy and have all the things he should have, engagements, weddings his own kids, i know if i leave him he will be deverstated as he REALLY loves me but i feel so alone and prussered.
I wish i could turn back the clock.
If you have got to the end of this thank you, and i am sorry for being so pathetic.

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TheArmadillo · 04/01/2007 14:20

sweetheart I don't know what to say.

Have you tried talking to your gp about this.

You are under a lot of stress by the sounds of it (to put it lightly) and don't have much self confidence/self worth to start with.

You need to get some help with how you feel about yourself.

sadmommy · 04/01/2007 14:23

I saw my GP a few weeks ago, he thinks im have had or am having a breakdown, all i do is cry.
He wanted to give me pill but my mother has been on them for 26 years and i have seen what they have done to her, is all a mess and i keep having really dark thoughts and im so scared

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sadmommy · 04/01/2007 14:24

I hate myself, i self harm and its getting worse, im so so ashamed and i just need to let it out, im so sorry

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KezzaG · 04/01/2007 14:24

you sound so very sad. Firstly, you cannot be as bad as you think you are, your new partner loves you and from the sound of it your dh will take you back. you really need to take the time to sort out your issues and then you can make some informed decisions about what you want for your future.

It sounds like you did what you could to save your marriage - it takes 2 and your dh would not go to counselling. Dont blame yourself.

why dont you go to your GP and get some help with your issues and take it from there. you deserve to be happy.

KezzaG · 04/01/2007 14:26

x posts. Just because your mum has been on pills doesnt mean the same thing will happen to you. If you need ad's then take them. there are enough people on here, me included who have benefited enourmously from them. Ask your GP for some counselling as well.

Do it for your dc's, they will want to see their mum happy.

kimi · 04/01/2007 14:27

(((hugs)))

TheArmadillo · 04/01/2007 14:27

You do need some help.

ADs have moved on a lot in the past few years. Drs are aware of the sideeffects and there are newer ones which do not have the same effects. It needn't be a long term thing.

I have a friend who refused at first to take ads as she had seen what they had done to her mother, but the situation is different now.

Go back to your gp, you cannot cope with this by yourself. If you don't want to take pills there are other options available but you do need to see someone.

It does sound like a mess at the moment, but you can take control back again (although it may seem to you unlikely at the moment).

Take the first step, go back to the gp, explain your fears about the tablets and see what they can do to reassure you or what other treatments they suggest.

sadmommy · 04/01/2007 14:29
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TheArmadillo · 04/01/2007 14:30

Don't be ashamed. Please get help. You don't have to cope with this alone, but you have to ask for help.

sadmommy · 04/01/2007 14:34

I feel like my whole life is a lie, only a few friends know i have left hubby, and for the most part they have been great, hubby and partner don't hate each other, in fact hubby said if this is what makes me happy then thats it but im not happy.
I have taken a lot of stick from some of my hubbys friends, been called all sorts and by his family as they all think it is ALL my doing, in the end i told his mother about the porn and how bad it had got.
I know my new partner loves me and i think hubby still does as when i say do you love me he says i never said i did'ent.
He is hard to talk to and im going mad.

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sadmommy · 04/01/2007 14:34

got to go, school run time, i will be back, thank you all xx

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KezzaG · 04/01/2007 15:00

You have so many things going on here....family issues, childhood issues, porn, splitting with your dh, a new partner....it is so much and seemingly over a long period of time that it really is no suprise you are feeling bad now.

you know you have to do something, and maybe getting it all out on here will be the frist step. Break it all down into peices you are able to cope with and dont be scared to get professional help.

I may not be back until tomorrow but will be thinking of you.

TheArmadillo · 04/01/2007 15:09

I'll be on here this evening if you want to talk.

sadmommy · 04/01/2007 15:46
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TheArmadillo · 04/01/2007 15:54

are you alright?

sadmommy · 04/01/2007 15:54

I feel so ashamed and dirty, and im so sorry to burden it all on here but i just need to let it out.
I don't know what i want,
I don't know how i feel apart from sad
I don't know how to feel better
I know i am hurting my partner
I know i have hurt my hubby
I know i am hurting my children
I always feel that something is missing, i always have and that something that will fill the hole in me is just there out of my reach, i am looking for something that does not exist or if it did i lost it along time ago, did not see what i had, can't see what i could have and don't trust my own thoughts at the moment.
I was wrapping sandwiches in cling film earlier and i thought how easy it would be to wrap it round my face and go lie on the sofa and go to sleep .
Hubby said i do not try to be happy but i do, and for a while i was but i know i don't derserve to be happy and something always spoiles it, just when i think i can do this or i am a good mum it all goes wrong.
I know i don't like who or what i am and so i tryed to be someone else in another life but all i find is me, and if i cant change who i am no amount of trying to be someone else will help/

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TheArmadillo · 04/01/2007 15:59

There is a you under all that who is not just someone who is sad all the time.

Depression can be the result of chemical imbalances in the brain - it is not something you have done wrong.

You have problems, but none of them will be sorted out until you feel better in yourself. Most of them seem to be the result of you feeling like this.

The hole you describe can be filled, but you need help for this.

Please get some help. Seriously go and get some help.

Talking is good and I am here to chat to you if that is what you want, but you need to go and get help as well.

sadmommy · 04/01/2007 16:02

its so hard

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TheArmadillo · 04/01/2007 16:05

I know and I'm sorry to keep pushing you. You have taken the first step of coming on here and writing this all down adn that must have taken guts. IT can't have been easy at all.

Your life is impossibly hard at the moment, but it doesn't have to always be like this. This is not who you are regardless of how long it has been. You do have the capability to be happy and not to feel like this. You have the right to be happy and to not feel like this. BUt you need help to acheive it.

Its not about being someone else, its about finding the real you.

sadmommy · 04/01/2007 16:13

i have begged hubby to get some help as the porn is getting more and more out of hand, Hubby is a wonderful and lovely man but this is a side of him that is taking over and i know he has done his best to make me happy, and i should have been, but even in a room full of people i am alone.
Hubby says he was fed up with me being tired all the time, fed up never being put first, fed up with our sex life, and with me moaning at him, i guess all of the above is true but i never ment to nag him, i just wanted him to help me a bit. He said all i do is worry and he was always saying when it happens then worry about it, and when things did happen it was ME who was left to sort them out, i know it all seems small but i would say things like we need petrol the light it on and he would say no no its fine then call me up to get someone to go out to him as he was out of gas, stupid things like that, and as for the porn i told him it would end up costing money we did not have and it did and that it wold get move and more depraved and it did and all he said was i was trying to control him and stop him having a life.
When i ask if i could go out with him and his friends one night (not that he went drinking or anything just to a quiz) he said no they don't like you and they would be uncomfitable while i was begging to save our marriage offering never to see my friend again, offering to pay for relate all he would say is there's nothing to say it's up to you, you make your mind up.

My new partner is lovely and he was very supportive but kept telling me i had to leave, that he could not be my friend if i was with hubby as it hurt him too much.
All i ever do is dystroy things, give me a dimond and watch me turn it to a bit of coal.
And i hate myself for being so self pittying but i cant stop.

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DizzyBint · 04/01/2007 16:15

you've had a lot of people hurt you in your past. you met your hubby, it didn't work out. yur new partner loves you and wants you to be happy. you aren't used to this. from what i can see, it seems like finally having found someone who really loves and cares for you is such a new thing for you you can't handle it. the fact his family are educated is by the by. you feel unsure of yourself because it's an environment of love and happiness that you aren't used to.

can you talk to your new partner about how you're feeling? does he know about your past?

TheArmadillo · 04/01/2007 16:17

0845 767 8000 - this is the number for saneline. They will be able to talk to you and give you information on help and things like ADs.

Things are going wrong because you are depressed. It is an illness you can't help, but you can get help with.

A marriage breaks up because of both sides - it cannot be soley your fault and if you have been feeling like this for this long then he should have realised and tried to help you.

sadmommy · 04/01/2007 16:18

Hubby did love me and i think he still does, but i dont love me and i dont think i ever will. i was happy for a while, i mean we were together for 21 years, but there was always something and some crsis and someone needing to be put before hubby and he got fed up waiting his turn cause it never came

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TheArmadillo · 04/01/2007 16:20

YOu can get out of this. YOu can love yourself but you can't do it by yourself.

You have felt like this for a long time, but that doesn't mean it always has to be like this.

There is a light at the end of the tunnel you just have to work your way towards it. It will be there.