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Why people cheat.

44 replies

Marryoneorbecomeone · 06/01/2016 13:19

I love a bit of TED and tripped over this last night. My ex cheated on me, and I found the perspective in this quite interesting.

www.ted.com/talks/esther_perel_rethinking_infidelity_a_talk_for_anyone_who_has_ever_loved

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cupcakesandwine · 06/01/2016 22:30

TBH I thought Esther panel was pretty discredited now. I'm with Chumplady on this one www.chumplady.com/2014/11/esther-perel-can-stfu/.

The simple answer is that only people with a defective moral compass cheat.

moopymoodle · 06/01/2016 22:30

Sometimes people cheat because they are dick heads and their partner did zero wrong, they just had no self control.

Sometimes they do it as the relationship lacks something they desire or need. Spark, admiration, romance, respect.

It's not always black and white.

cupcakesandwine · 06/01/2016 22:34

Sorry autocorrect! Esther Parel!

mudandmayhem01 · 06/01/2016 22:42

I cheated on my last boyfriend,in my defence I was very young, I fell I love with my male best friend got drunk, got off with him.i did finish my old boyfriend the next day, but I still cheated( I have now been with the best friend for over 20 years) Yes I behaved badly but I have never even considered cheating since, I like to think I have a strong moral compass and generally try and do the right thing. Not everyone who has cheated is an utter shit ( hopefully!) ready for a flaming though

Marryoneorbecomeone · 06/01/2016 23:57

Cupcakesandwine I don't think the rankings of one blogger count as "discrediting" Esther Perel. She makes uncomfortable points. People who have affairs DO feel more alive. That's why they do it. It doesn't necessarily make them de facto utter damned bastards.

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Lovehandles · 07/01/2016 00:02

People cheat because they are unhappy

Lovehandles · 07/01/2016 00:04

defective moral compass... what even is that? how does anyone know the reasons why every single person cheats because they are all different. MNers are so very very judgemental

Elendon · 07/01/2016 07:21

People cheat in different ways. One night stands, having two on the go at the same time, romantic involvement (intense excitement that is almost drug like).

It's the aftermath that's the killer. Some do learn that the consequences of their actions cause pain, others are callous and enjoy the maelstrom they have created, especially those who have fallen deep into romantic involvement.

cupcakesandwine · 07/01/2016 08:01

You always have the choice not to cheat. It does not really matter whether the relationship with the cheater works out in the long term or not, or whether the cheating is short or long term. It is still a conscious, self-indulgent choice to cheat.

If you want out of your relationship then take responsibility and say so before you move on to someone else.

ravenmum · 07/01/2016 08:16

People don't cheat because they want a new partner or are totally fed up with the old one. They cheat because the affair partner represents something else.
My ex spent hours writing emails to his mistress about how he was totally fed up with me and wanted to be with her and have children with her. He spent months acting that way, too. I agree that she represented something different and new (and forbidden and exciting), but that doesn't necessarily mean that is the ONLY reason for the cheating.

Marryoneorbecomeone · 07/01/2016 08:34

elendon
"It's the aftermath that's the killer. Some do learn that the consequences of their actions cause pain, others are callous and enjoy the maelstrom they have created, especially those who have fallen deep into romantic involvement."

Yes I agree BUT only if the affair is discovered. And it seems that most aren't.

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Saggingninja · 07/01/2016 08:37

Moopy despite my hideous situation I can agree with you. I know a couple who met by having an affair, then they both separated from their spouses and are now married with four children between them.

According to the script, either one is supposed to repeat the pattern because 'once a cheater always a cheater'. But this couple have been together for years and are always laughing together, sharing jokes etc. As much as you can tell they seem happy. But it doesn't fit the perceived narrative of 'when you marry the mistress you create a vacancy' so we tend to concentrate on the relationships where history DOES repeat itself and ignore ANY evidence that sometimes it doesn't.

In my own case I hope my heartbreak doesn't destroy the faith I have in love.

viridus · 07/01/2016 08:52

There are always excuses or reasons for cheating valid or not, but it is easier to get blood out of a stone than for a cheater to actually say they have cheated.
Usually because they don't want to set you free, they want to keep using you.
However the truth will set you free.

Elendon · 07/01/2016 09:20

Marry

"only if the affair is discovered. And it seems that most aren't."

I agree. I knew someone, long before children but deeply in love with exh at the time, who seemingly had the perfect relationship. They were just a loving and happy couple. But he and I were talking one night (drunk talk in the pub), and he confessed he had affairs because although he loved his wife dearly, they weren't having sexual relations. I told him he would have no luck with me and he seemed most disappointed - the cheek of it!

Also after exh and I separated I was feeling the need for the love of a man, horny (!), so went on an affair site. I was staggered at the number of men registered on there, close to my area (almost 6,000 out of a population of 30,000 men roughly). My libido disappeared pdq, and I got the hell out of there, it just reeked of desperation. One man put himself down as a deeply committed Christian, who was very sad not to be having sex anymore. I still get the shivers thinking about it.

ButtonMoon88 · 07/01/2016 09:32

I cheated whilst in a meaningful relationship, I was young (20), not married, no children, but cared about the person I was with. And then they left to study elsewhere and I cheated. The person I slept with was there and could offer me something my partner couldn't because he had left. It was a difficult time and there were many other issues in the relationship but I did it because very simply I was looking to find something that didn't exist in my current relationship. Whether this is true of all cases I don't know.

I have since grown up and have been happily married for 10 years and have a beautiful 1yr old. My marriage is strong and were are very honest with one another, it's not something I will do again.

ButtonMoon88 · 07/01/2016 09:33

Should say I told my partner at the time what had happened and we separated, we knew the long distance relationship just wouldn't work for us

Iliveinalighthousewiththeghost · 07/01/2016 09:40

Because they're bored and crave risk.
Because their partner doesn't make them feel desired.

ordinaryman · 07/01/2016 11:10

@Marryoneorbecomeone "...you can betray your marriage by being neglectful, or contemptuous, or prioritising something else, but society says that sexual betrayal is FAR worse. She says it isn't, not necessarily."

This is something I've thought about a great deal. I am a man in a loveless marriage (because my wife is no longer interested in intimacy or sex with me) and have not cheated. Yet if I did, I would be judged far more harshly for my unfaithfulness than she is for hers. So far, the only person to break her marriage vows is my wife.

donajimena · 07/01/2016 12:56

ordinary why don't you end the marriage?
Genuine question not a flippant response btw

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