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DH appears to be flirting with an affair

73 replies

CinderellaSometimes · 17/11/2015 21:22

DH and I haven't been good for ages. I have a long line of grivences, am sure he does too. If we didn't have DS who is 6, I would have left ages ago.

At the moment I am furious because he's run up 7 grand worth of debt on a credit card and not told me. I meanwhile have 6,500 in savings which I was really excited on spending on furniture which we need, and getting nice things as well. We need sofas, carpet, new curtains, all sorts (and we do need them, we're half way through renovating, we have no furniture at all in the living room!) I've saved up for the last year to get this money - I'm a relatively high earner but haven't been buying big treats. He meanwhile put his travel season ticket and left it on a credit card with no attempt to pay it off, just left it there for a year. He's also put two football season tickets (at over 1000 each) on it, and made no attempt to pay it off. I knew he had put the travel on a credit card but it never occured to me he wasn't paying it off. We have a joint bank account which we pay into to cover bills - I pay £1500 and he pays in £550. Other than that his finances and mine are seperate, I put money into savings on top of that plus cover DS school fees and other bits and pieces. I paid the deposit on our house in its entirety and paid off another one of his debts from before we got together of about 10 grand. He earns 30,000 a year, his travel is 5000 a year, so it didn't occur to me he wasn't paying it off, but if he'd talked to me I could have upped my contribution to the joint finances and saved less, but I didn't know. Sorry to go so much in depth into amounts but trying to give the whole picture.

He's been absolutely vile about helping me pick the furniture, really stroppy and obnoxious. He now says it's because he's stressed about the debt and having no money and I'm wasting money on sofas. And I'm just so angry and it's stupid because it's only stuff, but I was really excited about them and now I have to spend my savings paying off his stupid credit cards because it's ridiculous to have debt hanging over us when I have it in savings. I feel very childish about it but I can't help being frustrated.

This is not the only issue, we have a rubbish sex life, I don't think fancy him and I haven't for years really. It comes and goes.

Anyway, am sure he could list many things about me, I'm not perfect! I'm just trying to set the scene.

Tonight he's running late coming home from work. He's told me he's going to get the later train, be back about 11.

But he's left Facebook messenger on DS's iPad, and I went to look at it. And he's arranged to meet a girl, an old school friend. It's the second time he will have met her and not told me. I know this from reading his messages, not my finest hour! I don't think it's an affair, or at least not yet. But I do think that it's leaning that way, his past messages say "was so good to see you, sorry if I talked to much. I had a great time lets do it again soon."

And now they're doing it again. He's facetimed me and DS and didn't mention that he was off to meet her, just said he was on his way home but next train wasn't for an hour, two minutes later he messaged her to say he was on his way, there in a minute.

And worryingly I'm not that bothered. There is a little voice in my head which says it would be great because then he would be the bad guy, I would be blameless and I can just get on and finish the marriage. Does that make me a bad person?

Then i realise how it would devestate DS and realise I am a bad person.

What should I do?

OP posts:
AnyFucker · 17/11/2015 22:18

Make a go of it with someone who is sniffing around other women ?

Nah

Rivercam · 17/11/2015 22:24

I think there are two,issues here. Firstly, there's the money and your differing views. That can be resolved.

However, not telling you about visiting the friend is more serious in my books. He has blatedly lied, and is meeting someone behind your back. That would seriously concern me.

Don't use your son as an excuse to stay in the marriage. if you do decide to separate, then your husband can still be involved in your son"'s life.

Duckdeamon · 17/11/2015 22:24

Make a go of it - without him!

get good legal advice.

Whatever you do don't spend those savings on his debts.

Duckdeamon · 17/11/2015 22:25

Doesn't do drop offs or pick ups? Rubbish.

DragonsCanHop · 17/11/2015 22:26

Please don't pay his debts!

eastwest · 17/11/2015 22:33

What exactly do you mean by make a go of it? because if you mean 'try talk and make changes that will make us both happy together' then fine, but it will take two to tango. But if you just mean 'bite my lip and carry on as we are' then frankly, life's too short.

NewLife4Me · 17/11/2015 22:34

Did he not do drop off and pick up when he wasn't working? Please tell me he did?
Whatever you decide please stop paying his debts and enabling him to be a twat.

BabyGanoush · 17/11/2015 22:37

Goodness don't pay his debts

You are just his meal ticket

Oakmaiden · 17/11/2015 22:40

You only have one life. Why spend it feeling unhappy?

MistressDeeCee · 17/11/2015 22:46

My sis was in the same situation with her feckless ex aka Walter Mitty as we called him. Their house was so dilapidated, he wasnt interested in getting help in to sort it out and if my sister wanted anything done it was "well you're the one who wants it done so much, use your own money and savings".

He loved nice clothes tho...and his fancy jeep...and playing lord of the manor

She discovered he' been messaging an old flame who my sis also knew in passing. Last straw for my sis, she'd been more and more determined to leave him anyway so that was the final straw. She did admit tho she was almost relieved in a way to discover the messages gave her more leverage re. the inevitable big ugly fallout. I know its not necessarily the "right" way but that is how she felt

Your man there is a pain in the arse OP. Even if your relationship limps along, the older your DCs grow the less patience you'll have for his nonsense. He's run up loads of debt and you've also described him as being obnoxious. Time to cut your losses me thinks, in the end you'll be relieved at not having to put up with it all

Bakeoffcake · 17/11/2015 22:48

He's lying to you about where he is and who he's with. He's built up debts without you knowing. He moans about how you spend YOUR savings (despite it being for your family) and your sex life is crap.

Why the heck do you think it's a good idea to raise your son in this environment? You need to separate for the sake of your son.

Kr1stina · 17/11/2015 22:49

I don't think you are a bad person for partly wanting him to have an affair, so you can have a " proper reason " for splitting . I think that only natural It's much easier that explaining all the money stuff, in case people judge you for being materialistic .

But then the same judge people will judge you for not forgiving him for having an affair. There are even people who will judge a wife for leaving a violent partner because she " drove him too it " or because he can't help it because he was as used as a child, or because he's got a drink problem .

Some people will blame you whatever happens . But TBH you don't need them in your life. You need people who will love and support you when you tell them that it was unhappy for years , you tried to make it work for the sake of your son but you couldn't and that's why you've split .

Just being unhappy is good enough reason you know . Let alone all the rest of the stuff you've told us , about how you are incompatible in many ways.

Maybe you should see a solicitor just to check out what your options are . In the meantime don't pay off his debts and don't buy the furniture .

Jibberjabberjooo · 17/11/2015 22:50

Don't pay his debt, why do it? It's his responsibility. Stop bailing him out. Oh and leave.

CinderellaSometimes · 17/11/2015 22:51

He didn't do many drop offs and pick ups when he was out of work. He managed to be doing some stupid cash in hand job on some days then all kind of other stuff. Plus he doesn't drive so it was a marathon on the bus then a bit of a walk to nursery. So it was easier for me to do it in the car.

We can add family taxi driver to the list of responsibilities actually. Never offers to pay for the petrol either.

OP posts:
ciele · 17/11/2015 22:53

I moan about my husband but yours is truly taking the p...

scarlets · 17/11/2015 22:54

See a solicitor to clarify your position before you do anything. Good luck!

CooCooCachoo · 17/11/2015 23:00

It sounds like he isn't really part of daily life anyway! Simplify yours by removing the hassle and heartache. It looks like it will be pretty much business as usual just without an annoying lodger!

Duckdeamon · 17/11/2015 23:01

Cocklodger?

SuckingEggs · 17/11/2015 23:06

Picture yourself in a decade. Life's short. How do you want to spend the time between now and then?

Free yourself.

CinderellaSometimes · 17/11/2015 23:06

Thank you everyone, especially those of you who have shared their (or their friends) experiences! Makes me feel less of a cold miserable witch.

He's not all bad. He gets up with DS every saturday so I can have a lie in. He does DS bath every night if he is home on time. He's good with DS in general really, unless it involves transport.

Storm is really bad here and he's not home. So I'm going to go to bed and be asleep before he gets back. Not sure what to do longer term, I'm gripped with this dreadful inertia about the whole thing.

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Duckdeamon · 17/11/2015 23:08

Those things he does for DS are pretty basic parenting OP.

CinderellaSometimes · 17/11/2015 23:08

I don't think he's a cocklodger. Not to the extent I see other people describe on here.

I think he just takes for granted that someone else (me) will sort everything out.

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Duckdeamon · 17/11/2015 23:12

It's odd to be a parent in a location that requires driving to get to childcare/school and not learn to drive.

AnyFucker · 17/11/2015 23:13

Yep, what he does with ds is parenting 101

I could have laid a bet he didn't drive

Is he seeing this woman this evening ?

stolemyusername · 17/11/2015 23:13

I'm sorry but I'd put money on him leaving years ago if you weren't a higher earner providing him with a nice life style. If he's earning £30k and only contributing £550 then he has had plenty of money to pay back his cc. He just knows he doesn't have to as you will bail him out, tell him to sell his season tickets to start.

Keep your money, you saved for the things you needed while he pissed his up the wall - and now he's out lining up a bit on the side so you can subsidise his affair too. Kick him out and make a new life for yourself and DS.