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Is revenge ever a good idea??

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ezeta2 · 15/11/2015 09:22

Hello all

Myself and my partner were trying for a baby that we both wanted at the same time he was cheating on me with an irish girl. I found out when I was pregnant, he couldn't provide a reason, he wanted to see her as well as me, he got me pregnant as "he wanted me in his life".

I was in a vulnerableb position as I moved from scotland to london to be with him and was living in his parents house and my family live aboard.

As he kept telling me he loved me and agreed not to contact the girl, we decided to start again. I contacted the girl who stared that she didn't know he had kids and partner, and apologised and would not contact him anymore. I deleted all her contact details from his fb, phone, email etc.

You probably guessed-he lied, told me he couldn't stop talking to her, said he still wanted me. As he works in a hotel he met her whilst she was a guest, he went onto the hotel system and took her details through her payment details and booking ( I found the paper) !! He told me how he has been lying to her to get him to fall for him then tell her the truth etc. I lost the plot, I'd been financially supporting his whole family and put his sister through uni. previous to this I had 3 miscarriages, I can't explain how much pain my hear was in- he utterly and completely betrayed me and was talking to me like I was his councillor.

I messaged the girl- he assaulted me when he found out, he was arrested but before that he fled scene with all my id, bank cards etc.

Fast forward 5 days, I moved out the first couple of days were tough. I couldn't stop crying, I was scared and missed him terribly I slept with his shirt on. Then I realised that over the last 2 weeks (since i first found out) I have been breaking my heart over an individual who utterly unaffected, unfeeling with not the slightest remorse for what they have done.

He has now sent me a text to say he wants nothing to do with the baby, his irish bit on the side sent me a screen shot of their messages discussing how they plan to start a family and how their child would be so special. I think about the baby, I think about the way he pushed for the pregnancy and has now rejected it.

I think about the questions our child will ask, his family stand by him as he's "the man". He won't give me the money he owes me, or any maintainence but can pay for this girls plane tickets and £500 phone bills- and whilst I live in shared accommodation with a stranger he is having a ball!

I could take his life apart as he has taken mine, he doesn't pay tax, he works as 2 jobs but has not declared one to the other- one of them affects his ability to do the other.
I could show the paper to the hotel chain manager, his family has been protecting him so nobody knows 2 hat he gas done and I feel like what's happened is insignificant to them.

so....... is revenge ever a good idea or should I rise above it??

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ezeta2 · 15/11/2015 18:44

Hi all,

I'm so overwhelmed my you kind words and support! I don't really have any support to be honest my family disowned me when I got a relationship with him. I tried reaching out but they really were not budging- and I also have my pride I'm not going to beg.

I've made a poor decision in trusting him but I am damn well not going to kneel down and beg for help from him or his family.

I was advised by refuge to give up.my job and go on benefits!!!!! I'm not going to allow the numpty to take away my job too, I don't see myself as a victim I want my child to have and see a strong mother- a mama bear!

its hard, damn lonely and having to go through the birth by myself is terrifying but it will be honest and real and not tied into his Web of illusion.

I admire all of you and truly appreciate your support and if any of you are in london please let me know and we can grab a coffee.

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ezeta2 · 15/11/2015 18:48

As he lives with his parents and has no assets in his name he will never give me any of the money he owes me.

HMRC seems the only way I'm going to affect anything. He left a message for me today stating that there was and I quote "fuck all I can do and if I don't behave I'm not get any help from his mum or money" .

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AnyFucker · 15/11/2015 19:34

Save all those messages. You might find a use for them one day.

chitofftheshovel · 15/11/2015 20:06

Thus proving he really is a dick.
I know you don't feel like it, you've said as much, you really do have the strength to pull this off and have a lovely relationship with your babby/toddler/child.
Not in London, so no coffee meet ups. But that way at the end of December....

ILoveNiceGunas · 16/11/2015 02:27

Wow. He is a bastard. I agree with the others, shop him.

Yes living well is the best revenge but it can take a fair while to get over something as painful as this. You can't rush that ''living well'' bit. It will come. But I don't think feeling like a shat on mug makes it come any quicker.

Clutterbugsmum · 16/11/2015 10:28

He left a message for me today stating that there was and I quote "fuck all I can do and if I don't behave I'm not get any help from his mum or money". Erm does he not realize that HE is responsible and not HIS mother for HIS child.

God he's a fool.

ezeta2 · 16/11/2015 11:59

Hi clutter bugsmum,

I don't think he does. I got in contact with hmrc today- let's see what happens. I got a message from his mum saying I destroyed his life, I responded with "what life??"

There is nothing to destroy as he didn't build anything.

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ezeta2 · 16/11/2015 12:00

I don't regret getting in touch with the hmrc I regret ever meeting him, which is messed up as I see all this as a personal failure on my part.

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ineedabodytransplant · 16/11/2015 12:14

And please let the hotel know he obtained a customer's deteils illegally.

They have an obligation under the DPA to protect all details of customers. And the customers have the right to NOT have their information used for his personal gain. What next? Credit card details

Shop him in every which way you can.

And Ezeta2, I wish you all the best for you and your baby.

amarmai · 16/11/2015 18:09

you sound great,op. Mad is the way to be when dealing with thieves and liars. I'd not put his name on the birth certificate as i wd not want anything further to do with him or his family. They sound like outlaws. Good you got free of them before you got married or you'd be paying maintenance to him! Def keep your job- it's your lifeline. Also get legal advice as to why no police charges. His and his mum threatening you shows they are worried about what you might do. As long as you will be safe do your worst,op. Get the bastard ! Bet your family will come around when you have your baby if not before. Just keep his family out of the mix.

WorzelsCornyBrows · 16/11/2015 18:41

It's not revenge, it's getting a small portion of what you're owed, by going through the appropriate authorities.

Revenge would be shopping him to his hotel employer for abusing their database to obtain customer information. That's a sackable offence. Not that I want to put ideas in your head Grin

One day you'll be thankful that this scumbag doesn't want to be a part of your baby's life. Being a single mum will be hard, but not as hard as being stuck with this leech and his family. You sound strong.

Blarblarblar · 16/11/2015 19:30

You sound so strong in the face f this disgusting families cruelty. Please don't put him on Birth Certificate as it sounds like they are truly vindictive and evil and you don't need to give them any rights over your baby.

Buttercup443 · 16/11/2015 20:34

You poor thing. Brew
You have been through so much, and with the hormones racing around no wonder you are so upset and feel confused.

He has already attacked you once. If you meet out revenge at him I really really fear for you and your unborn child.

You need to see police and get the attack registered so you can prevent him coming anywhere near you and your baby.

I worry he may harm you or worse Sad

You need to get back home and be with your family. You need RL support and as much help as you can get.

Xx

Buttercup443 · 16/11/2015 20:34

Also what Barbar said: Do not put him on the birth certificate!!!

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