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Totally confused about "friend" !

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HighwayToHell · 21/10/2015 01:13

After a failed marriage and a disastrous relationship, I have been enjoying my time alone when I met a guy a couple of months ago-we hit it off straight away although I was quite flattered that he was interested in me, he is 5 years younger than me and looks even younger, a musician in a well known band.
He is also a lone parent of a young child and when we met up after our first meeting, he said he really liked me but that he wasnt sure where he stood on a relationship with me as his child came first and he didnt want me to expect anything he couldnt offer, I appreciated his honesty.
I went round to his the next eve and ended up in bed with him and although yes it was all very mind blowing, the next morning it was like nothing had happened. There was no physical contact afterwards and in the morning I left with an arrangement that I would go round on Saturday, he said to me the night before "dont get attached to me " I really should have heeded that warning.
I got the impression he was just after a friend with benefits but in all honesty the situation kind of suited me too, We lapsed into a kind of twice a week thing with constant fb messaging in between, messages were never sexual and when I went round to his we would curl up on the sofa and chat, etc..He told me a lot of personal stuff about himself and sometimes nothing would happen and I would go home, other times I would stay over and something would happen.
A couple of weeks ago he asked me to go round and spent the eve telling me how amazing he thought I was, that I turned him on and that despite the fact he appeared not to care about people, he did and that he cared about me, but then followed it up with, but we cant have a relationship. His past relationship history seems to be a string of short term relationships with the longest being his childs mother. He had indicated a couple of times that there was possibility some unresolved pain around past relationships but wouldnt go further.
The week after that Saturday, he indicated he'd ike some company on the tuesday and I stayed over and this went into weds, he spent the morning before going to work telling me lots of quite deep stuff and saying he hadn't shared that with people before ). That day, something happened at work, and he was sent home early, he messaged me asking me to come round which I did, he then told me that eve that he suspected he has bi polar disorder, something I had already suspected due to his constant changig moods. He got himself signed off work and when I reminded him I was going away that weekend, he asked to come along..It was great we had a fun weekend, no sex, just lots of laughs and at night, he cuddled me really tightly in bed, I began to question if it was more of a relationship.
However, he then spent the car journey home telling me he was unsuited to relationships and then implied that should sex with someone else present itself, he would take it, but would tell me first Sad.
last week he seemed keen to have me round, but nothing physical, we spent a lot of time together and at the weekend I actually went out with him, his child and his parents.That eve he invited me and my young daughter to stay over and on sunday we all spent the day together with his child too.
On occasions he has accused me of being paranoid if I checked arrangements or confirmed something, it annoyed me because thats me, its how I operate. When I left on sunday, he told me he loved having me there and I could stop by whenever I wanted, no need to chec, just come over.
We usually always speak every day on fb messenger, I dropped him a message late afternoon asking if he was ok, he replied in short answers saying yes but was busy.(he is supposed to be job hunting).
I asked if he wanted any company the following eve, if I ask, he usualy always replies that Im always welcome, given the conversation we had on Sunday, I assumed I would be. He replied no he was busy.
So I asked him why I was no longer welcome and he replied in capitals, saying that just because he was busy, it didnt means f off, but that he had stuff to do, he then accused me of being paranoid again and said, if I pulled that paranoia crap on him again, he would tell me where to go.
I apologised and we chatted a while before he went off line.
Today after a couple of messages, I asked him if he wanted to hang out again.
he replied (copied and pastied)
Well logically yes of course.

Look, got a fair bit to do and need to sort it. Stop fishing for times, dates and paranoia relief. Go get on with your life and chill.

I replied saying I wasnt being paranoid, it was a question and that I hoped he managed to sort whatever it was he had to get on with and he knew where I was......he just replied with a thumbs up and Ive not heard from him since despite the fact hes been on fb all day and well into the night.

So I dont know what to think.he appears to have gone totaly cold on me and Im not sure if that last message actually reads get lost tbh, Im not in the market for a relationship either but sadly have developed feelings for him, my brain is scrambled because he is so inconsistent..Sad

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cozietoesie · 21/10/2015 13:25

...I doubt he will be in touch again...

You say that almost hopefully?

You're going to have to stay pretty strong over the next while - and going by my own experience, he will be in touch. He'll like to have a 'fan' available to him if he needs one to dump upon.

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Anastasie · 21/10/2015 13:29

I'm so sorry you are going through this bollocks. Fwiw, it's Ok, it's not your fault, just step away now before more damage is done.

I cannot help imagining him as a sort of cross between Liam Gallagher and James Blunt but with worse interpersonal skills Grin

Just trying to cheer you up

You'll be alright xx

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HighwayToHell · 21/10/2015 13:34

He looks like the actor that plays Endeavour. .but with long hair..Wink
Seriously it's causing me so much torment because this guy has been in constant contact morning noon and night..last couple of weeks we've been in each others pockets..everything is fine this weekend..then pow..he drops me..I know it's nothing I've done and more likely his tangled state of mind..but it's harder to deal with than someone saying to your face..this isn't happening anymore..I just don't get how someone can do an about turn in under a day.

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Anastasie · 21/10/2015 13:49

Oh he does sound beautiful Smile

I can imagine how horrible that must be to have someone being really dependent on you then suddenly throwing it in your face.

I can't explain it, but you are right that it isn't anything you have done or anything at all about you in fact. It's all about him and he does sound very troubled.

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Epilepsyhelp · 21/10/2015 13:49

He can do it because he never really cared. You weren't 'you' to him, you were just a female when he wanted one. Therefore he doesn't miss 'you' now, when he either wants no one around or has found a replacement.

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ILiveAtTheBeach · 21/10/2015 13:54

Because he knows that he can do or say anything to you, and you'll still be there for him (even though most women would have said "Fuck off")

He told you he would fuck other women - you still hung around.

He told you not to get attached - you still hung around.

He told you he didn't want a relationship - you still hung around.

He sends you rude text messages - you are STILL hanging around.

He knows he can treat you like a doormat. And so, he does. Simples.

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cozietoesie · 21/10/2015 13:56

,,,I just don't get how someone can do an about turn in under a day...

Have you ever watched someone reeling in and landing a difficult fish?

Players know the technique instinctively - and after all, it's served them well since they were knee high usually.

Don't try to analyse or understand him. Shake yourself off, dust down and thank your luck you still had some awareness at a point when you could get free.

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F0xglove · 21/10/2015 13:59

The "get on with your life" and "chill" comments speak volumes. ie, I'm not part of 'your life' and the 'chill' means would you ever grasp that....

I am becoming friendly with a man and it doesn't seem on course to be a relationship, nor a FWB situation but I wouldn't want to hear about other women he's sleeping with all the same.

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ThisIsStillFolkGirl · 21/10/2015 14:14

I think some people are being quite hard on this guy. So what if he can't/doesn't want to do relationships? He hasn't led her on, he hasn't lied to her, he hasn't pretended he wants her above all others or wooed her to fall in love with him. Quite the opposite in fact.

I have realised that I'm not able to do relationships. Certainly not right now anyway. I don't have one at the moment, but I've had fwbs and they are so much easier. It can look like a relationship at times, but it's not and it doesn't feel like one.

I do think he's been a little disingenuous, but if a fwb/casual fling developed feelings, I wouldn't feel responsible for that.

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HighwayToHell · 21/10/2015 14:38

No he hasn't lied to me or promised me anything he's been nothing but honest..the shock is in him being quite needy in a sense and telling me on Sunday to come round whenever I like..to saying the next day..fuck off essentially. .in a nutshell as everyone has said I guess I must take him at his word and fo just that ..doesn't make it any less painful..Sad

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cozietoesie · 21/10/2015 15:02

No, it doesn't, I'm afraid. You can keep telling yourself that he doesn't really see the inner you - which is true - but it's still a heck of a kick in the gut.

I don't know how to come to terms with that. You just have to get past it and move forward.

Best of luck.

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F0xglove · 21/10/2015 15:13

yes, @highway to hell, it's about 16 years since it happened to me, but these characters can be needy!! that's the weird thing but it is their needs that they meet at the expense of yours.

Never mind that he's in a band. So what.

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F0xglove · 21/10/2015 15:18

I agree OP, that's a bit rich of them! we won't pay you to work here and we've just raised your hopes and dashed them but you can work for us for free if you'd like. 'avvin' a larf.

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QuiveringKnights · 21/10/2015 15:42

If he's in a well known band, why does he need to look for work now?

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F0xglove · 21/10/2015 15:57

Ignore my post of 15:42:36, that was for another thread. Blush

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Nonnainglese · 21/10/2015 16:08

He's in a band
He thinks he's irresistible
You were attracted and available
He's moved on to the next

Sad but utterly inevitable imo.

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springydaffs · 21/10/2015 16:09

Yes he's been honest - and that absolves him, apparently Hmm

He's been honest that he's a pure shit and fully intends to treat you like shit, a commodity. So far he's had free sex, free therapy and a playmate he can pick up and drop when he plain chooses.

Didn't he blush when he said 'don't get too attached to me'? Who does he think he is! He may be 'beautiful' but his 'beauty' is clearly skin deep; underneath it's maggots all the way.

Have some self-respect, girl. He is foul. Why on earth would you be scurrying after someone who treats you this badly? Absolutely everything has been on his terms - why have you not only allowed that but facilitated it? You say he can click his fingers and get anyone he wants . he wouldn't get me, why has he got you?

As for bipolar Hmm Plenty of ppl with bipolar who take responsibility for their behaviour. No, he has Vile Shit disorder, I suspect that's about it.

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HighwayToHell · 21/10/2015 16:46

I feel pretty shit myself now Sad..unfortunately I did get attached. .despite trying not to.and as I said I'm totally struggling with his complete about turn in attitude in the space of a day..what if I had taken him at his word and just dropped by ? Would he have slammed the door in my face ?

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ImperialBlether · 21/10/2015 17:14

I just wonder why you're attracted to him. I'm sure he's good looking and fun and charming, but were you not worried about the voices in his head, his mood swings, his self-diagnosed bipolar disorder, the way he called you paranoid when he was clearly the one who was paranoid?

Wouldn't you prefer a man who said something and meant it, who was always pleased to see you, who didn't have deep problems that he didn't seem willing to resolve?

There are men out there who will make you happy and there are men who will make you unhappy. You've fixed yourself on this guy, but surely you know he's one of those who will make you unhappy?

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CheersMedea · 21/10/2015 17:22

what if I had taken him at his word and just dropped by ? Would he have slammed the door in my face ?

Depends what he was doing. If he had nothing better to do and fancied a shag, then probably. If he was busy, irritated or had another woman there, then yes he'd have slammed the door in your face.

This:

Stop fishing for times, dates and paranoia relief. Go get on with your life and chill.

is actually quite a nasty thing to say to someone you have been sleeping with regularly - even if it is on a FWB basis. There is nothing in that that conveys friendship, consideration or kindness.

You can say the same thing in a million different ways politely, firmly but with respect for your sex buddy.

Of everything you have written, to me this is the BIGGEST red flag - because it indicates that he actually has no respect for you. Let him talk to you like that this time, next time will be worse.

Until - as someone up thread alluded to - you will believe that you actually are some kind of paranoid psycho-bitch who could never actually get a proper bf and if you only dialled down your neediness, he'd want you. You'll end up with your self esteem pounded into the floor.

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F0xglove · 21/10/2015 17:23

yes, you said upthread that he could click his fingers and have anybody. I honestly assure you, he couldn't have me. I am not in to bands, and if anybody thinks that their good looks will make me overlook a lack of respect, then I feel my hackles rise.

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F0xglove · 21/10/2015 17:27

Just echoing cheersmedea really, but think about what you want out of a relationship. That's OK, you're entitled to want that. Wanting to have some of your own needs met wouldn't make you needy. Bandboy was seeing to it that his needs were met.

Men have done this number on the 'social script', where they think that all relationships and all sex and all dating and everything else should always be done according to a male 'agenda' for want of a better word.

Women need to remind themselves what THEY want

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CheersMedea · 21/10/2015 17:29

you said upthread that he could click his fingers and have anybody

It is one of the joys of life that NO BODY, literally no one can say this!

There will always be someone who is turned off by [fill in the gap] blondes/brunettes/red heads/skinny/fat/curvy/over-defined muscles/intelligence/stupidity/fame and press intrusion/shyness/arrogance.

One woman's meat is another woman's poison.

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CheersMedea · 21/10/2015 17:33

Women need to remind themselves what THEY want

I saw a video on the Daily Mail website within the last couple of weeks but I can't find it otherwise I'd linked it. It's a sort of parody of the way women behave in relationships or overanalyse men they are into but are getting luke warm treatment from.

It's worth watching for the end of it which says something like "If your relationship isn't equal, it isn't worth it." The messages is find someone who likes and respect you as much as you like and respect them.

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avocadosarentmiddleclassed · 21/10/2015 19:33

Oh he sounds awful- please move on it will end in tears.

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