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Totally confused about "friend" !

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HighwayToHell · 21/10/2015 01:13

After a failed marriage and a disastrous relationship, I have been enjoying my time alone when I met a guy a couple of months ago-we hit it off straight away although I was quite flattered that he was interested in me, he is 5 years younger than me and looks even younger, a musician in a well known band.
He is also a lone parent of a young child and when we met up after our first meeting, he said he really liked me but that he wasnt sure where he stood on a relationship with me as his child came first and he didnt want me to expect anything he couldnt offer, I appreciated his honesty.
I went round to his the next eve and ended up in bed with him and although yes it was all very mind blowing, the next morning it was like nothing had happened. There was no physical contact afterwards and in the morning I left with an arrangement that I would go round on Saturday, he said to me the night before "dont get attached to me " I really should have heeded that warning.
I got the impression he was just after a friend with benefits but in all honesty the situation kind of suited me too, We lapsed into a kind of twice a week thing with constant fb messaging in between, messages were never sexual and when I went round to his we would curl up on the sofa and chat, etc..He told me a lot of personal stuff about himself and sometimes nothing would happen and I would go home, other times I would stay over and something would happen.
A couple of weeks ago he asked me to go round and spent the eve telling me how amazing he thought I was, that I turned him on and that despite the fact he appeared not to care about people, he did and that he cared about me, but then followed it up with, but we cant have a relationship. His past relationship history seems to be a string of short term relationships with the longest being his childs mother. He had indicated a couple of times that there was possibility some unresolved pain around past relationships but wouldnt go further.
The week after that Saturday, he indicated he'd ike some company on the tuesday and I stayed over and this went into weds, he spent the morning before going to work telling me lots of quite deep stuff and saying he hadn't shared that with people before ). That day, something happened at work, and he was sent home early, he messaged me asking me to come round which I did, he then told me that eve that he suspected he has bi polar disorder, something I had already suspected due to his constant changig moods. He got himself signed off work and when I reminded him I was going away that weekend, he asked to come along..It was great we had a fun weekend, no sex, just lots of laughs and at night, he cuddled me really tightly in bed, I began to question if it was more of a relationship.
However, he then spent the car journey home telling me he was unsuited to relationships and then implied that should sex with someone else present itself, he would take it, but would tell me first Sad.
last week he seemed keen to have me round, but nothing physical, we spent a lot of time together and at the weekend I actually went out with him, his child and his parents.That eve he invited me and my young daughter to stay over and on sunday we all spent the day together with his child too.
On occasions he has accused me of being paranoid if I checked arrangements or confirmed something, it annoyed me because thats me, its how I operate. When I left on sunday, he told me he loved having me there and I could stop by whenever I wanted, no need to chec, just come over.
We usually always speak every day on fb messenger, I dropped him a message late afternoon asking if he was ok, he replied in short answers saying yes but was busy.(he is supposed to be job hunting).
I asked if he wanted any company the following eve, if I ask, he usualy always replies that Im always welcome, given the conversation we had on Sunday, I assumed I would be. He replied no he was busy.
So I asked him why I was no longer welcome and he replied in capitals, saying that just because he was busy, it didnt means f off, but that he had stuff to do, he then accused me of being paranoid again and said, if I pulled that paranoia crap on him again, he would tell me where to go.
I apologised and we chatted a while before he went off line.
Today after a couple of messages, I asked him if he wanted to hang out again.
he replied (copied and pastied)
Well logically yes of course.

Look, got a fair bit to do and need to sort it. Stop fishing for times, dates and paranoia relief. Go get on with your life and chill.

I replied saying I wasnt being paranoid, it was a question and that I hoped he managed to sort whatever it was he had to get on with and he knew where I was......he just replied with a thumbs up and Ive not heard from him since despite the fact hes been on fb all day and well into the night.

So I dont know what to think.he appears to have gone totaly cold on me and Im not sure if that last message actually reads get lost tbh, Im not in the market for a relationship either but sadly have developed feelings for him, my brain is scrambled because he is so inconsistent..Sad

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pictish · 21/10/2015 09:54

How will you feel when he meets a woman he does want a relationship with, which will happen eventually, even if the relationship is short-lived like the other ones?

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Calliou · 21/10/2015 09:58

I was with someone like this for far too long. Its a complete head fuck.

The worse part is, if you stay with this loser you will start to believe his nonsense - your paranoid, if you do/don't do x, y, z he would want to be with you.

Get out asap, esp as you have a child.

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LucySnow12 · 21/10/2015 09:58

I think you should move on. He seems to have some mental health issues - mood swings, hearing voices ect... I also find it disturbing that he regularly accuses you of being paranoid. Sorry you are feeling hurt.

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cozietoesie · 21/10/2015 10:43

It sounds as if he's made you into the emotional equivalent of a booty call and you're getting invested in him. (Although you may think that the situation 'kind of suits you'.)

If anyone said to me 'Look, got a fair bit to do and need to sort it. Stop fishing for times, dates and paranoia relief. Go get on with your life and chill', I'd be moving on so fast you wouldn't see me for dust. I don't like people who play games and I think he's doing just that.

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pictish · 21/10/2015 11:12

You're a psuedo girlfriend. A stand-in on stand by.
I'd tell him to sling his hook.

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HighwayToHell · 21/10/2015 11:13

Yes basically he's saying to me..bugger off until I decide I want you again..my head is well and truly fucked..Ok I need to be strong and remove myself as an option..I suspect there is already someone he is interested in..Sad

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Anastasie · 21/10/2015 11:17

Only read the OP but he sounds like a wanker from that message. He's treating you like shit on his shoe.

I would block him and move on or he'll think he can get away with that.

Asshole with a big A.

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pictish · 21/10/2015 11:20

Yes...remove yourself as his willing prop and save your emotion, energy and time for someone who considers themselves lucky to get a chance with you in the first place, not this esteem draining set up in which you scrabble for his crumbs of acknowledgement. Realise your worth!

Do it now before he gets involved with an actual girlfriend and discards you entirely, which will hurt like a bastard. Save yourself.

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MissApple · 21/10/2015 11:20

Hey, I feel for you, but he is telling you he doesnt want commitment. Hold off for a bit, see if he contacts you. He may miss you and do just that - Im sure the answer will be clear in a week -10 days

Good luck

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Anastasie · 21/10/2015 11:34

Having read it properl he is using you, for comfort, as a counsellor, as a parent figure. He has some MAJOR issues. He is not relationship material. Not once have your feelings come into the equation. He is really screwed up and only able to think about his own needs.

I feel really sorry for his child. You can walk away from this tosser, so do it - don't give him a second more of your time.

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Monroe · 21/10/2015 11:35

You have obviously been hurt by his behaviour however he has been upfront from the very beginning in not wanting a relationship with you.

I know you say it's suited you too however it very much sounds like it is all on his terms and you are just waiting for your twice weekly invitation.

Have you ever said no to him? Ever been unavailable when he has invited you to his home? Has he ever been to yours?

I'm sorry you are hurt but I think you need to start protecting yourself starting by cutting contact and stopping being so available

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Anastasie · 21/10/2015 11:37

Plus I have had that relationship with a guy who can't commit and keeps wanting closeness, meeting his parents, all that stuff, and he was NEVER EVER as rude or spiteful as this guy is being to you.

That was a headfuck as he was a lovely guy as well as confusing and frustrating.

This guy you are seeing is a no brainer. What on earth do you get out of it - he's not even kind. He's a twat. Sad

You will feel a thousand times better if you tell him to get stuffed and don't contact him again, ever. It's the right thing and by that I mean it is good for you and for your life, to never see him again.

There is no question. I suspect any relationship he did have with a woman would be extremely abusive within a short while.

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willconcern · 21/10/2015 11:46

I also think he has major mental health issues. He is up and down - he may be being honest about what he feels at any particular moment in time - but his feelings appear to change more regularly than he changes his pants.

I would chalk it up to experience, and move on. But I would also block him so he can't keep swinging from liking to not liking you, wanting you to not wanting you, dangling you on a hook to not dangling you on a hook.

A long term relationship with this man would be impossible. And very damaging to you I suspect - and your child.

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HighwayToHell · 21/10/2015 12:33

Thanks everyone..yes he has said so many times he doesn't do relationships..probably largely down to his inability to know what he wants from one day to the next.The majority of the time he is lovely..that's the problem..I'm grasping onto the nice bits..I know I'm a little bit infatuated sadly and he's using it to his advantage..he's gone from wanting me around non stop and telling me on Sunday to call round whenever I liked to telling me 24 hours later I'm not welcome.hence why I feel so bereft..

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expatinscotland · 21/10/2015 12:41

He's a user and a mindfucker. He's wasting your time and playing you. Of course he doesn't 'do' relationships, he's too busy fucking people about. You're one of them. Stop doing this to yourself.

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Artioo2 · 21/10/2015 12:56

I would not want to be with anyone who sent me a message like that, casual or not. It's rude and slightly mean. He might have told you the score from the start, but that's still no excuse for a nasty message.

He will be back when he's bored etc.

I think this is very likely, and you'll feel relieved and happy until the next time he decides it's too much hassle and he's mean to you again, at which point you'll feel worse than ever. Don't let this happen to you - cut contact now. It'll feel shit for a while, but at least he can cause no more pain to you in future.

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cozietoesie · 21/10/2015 12:57

Be warned - when you cut contact with him, he'll likely be all over you after a short period. Gotta keep that woman on a string waiting for me whenever I fancy a bit of adoration!

(It's a bit like occasional polishing of a nice piece of antique furniture - keeps it looking good and serviceable.)

It would mean nothing in the long term and would probably be disastrous for you if you didn't use your head over it.

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HighwayToHell · 21/10/2015 13:03

Thanks everyone..I feel like shit..I'm a grown woman in my early 40s who should know better..I knew what I was getting myself into but still went along with it..there's something about him..and he knows it..he's beautiful ..and he knows it..he's an amazing musician which I found attractive...but he knows he can just click his fingers and have any woman Sad

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Potatoface2 · 21/10/2015 13:04

hes in a well known band....please tell!

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popalot · 21/10/2015 13:06

he's a player. He'll hold all the power in your relationship. Stay well away.

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ILiveAtTheBeach · 21/10/2015 13:07

When oh when, will women learn to make men do a bit of chasing??!!

This guy is using you for comfort/sex/as a sounding board....."listen to all my deep tales of woe - aren't you lucky I am telling you all this about very important ME". I bet he doesn't ask you anything about yourself.

He's told you to your face, that he doesn't do relationships and that if the chance of a fuck with another woman came along, he'd take it. FFS, how on earth can you put up with such a DICK?

And what is your response? You are now sat at home wringing your hands, hoping he might throw you a few crumbs from his table.

Please wise up. Pick up your self respect (it's on the floor over in the corner), and when he next calls or texts you, IGNORE.

I am sorry if this is harsh, but you really deserve to be treated better than this. No-one should be treated this poorly. Flowers

Please be strong and do this for yourself and your DC. Would he make a good Step Dad? Er no. So do it for your DC, if not you.

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cozietoesie · 21/10/2015 13:09

Actually, I don't think you knew what you were getting yourself into. Not really. He sounds just like a prime 'user' but most people won't believe that about someone, especially if they're beautiful. (Unfair, I know, but there you go.)

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popalot · 21/10/2015 13:10

Don't feel bad, they never tell you they're a player. Part of the game. They always start off being fun to be with to reel you in, then drop you like a sack of spuds leaving you confused. Also like to blame the women as being over sensitive/ paranoid when actually you are reacting normally and he's being the arse.

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HighwayToHell · 21/10/2015 13:16

I doubt he will be in touch again so I will just resist the draw to make contact..he's obviously done with me for now..but actually I think you are all right..he's a user so no doubt if He decides I'm of use to him in anyway again he will be in touch..I won't be available though..I'm actually planning an overseas trip in two weeks which I think will do me the power of good and means it will be easier to cut contact.
The band is well known if you are into certain music..I won't name in case I out him ..

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ILiveAtTheBeach · 21/10/2015 13:22

HighwayToHell I am very pleased to hear this. And regards the Bi-polar, this is extremely hard to deal with. My DH had a GF in the past with this, and she was just like this guy. Total head fuck. And she got dangerous in the end, even slashing her own wrists and attacking him. Not good around children!! So protect yours.

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