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Whats app hmmm.....dodgy?

43 replies

dinkywinky · 23/08/2015 21:35

I downloaded Whats app to my dc phone just now (I don't have it)

It came up with a couple of names in dc phone who were inviting him. One was my partner who came up. It said 116 days 3hrs ago. My name did not come up because I do not have What's app installed.

My partner does not have it installed on his phone; so does this mean he has a secret phone somewhere with it installed? What does this all mean?

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ShitHappens1 · 23/08/2015 21:41

The only way to find out is to click on your DP and at the top, it will say "last seen". If it says last seen hundreds of days ago, it was likely he downloaded it temporarily and then deleted it again.

icklekid · 23/08/2015 21:44

If you don't trust him when he says he doesn't have it and straight away asume he has a secret phone surely that is a bigger problem. I agree with pp he downloaded it 113 days ago and uninstalled...

dinkywinky · 23/08/2015 21:44

Do you know if it's deleted why did he come up at all?

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SurlyCue · 23/08/2015 21:47

It said 116 days 3hrs ago

The 116 days 3 hours is when he last updated his status. You need to click on his name as if to open a chat to see when he was last on. However it is possible to disable that function so people cant see when you were last on or if you are online right now.

LocalEditorEssex · 23/08/2015 21:48

Because he is in your contacts, I think.
I once had what's app, but deleted over a year ago, no idea if I still show up though.
Or perhaps he deleted the icon but not his actual account?

randallflagg1 · 23/08/2015 21:48

When did he buy his phone/device? Whatsapp may have been installed on it as standard, but he's never used it.

I have whatsapp and a 60 year old work colleague is showing as a contact - she is not a whatsapp user but it came with her new phone

Or, he may have downloaded it once to see what it's about. I do that with things all the time.

ladygracie · 23/08/2015 21:50

My dad still shows up on mine but he deleted his ages ago. When I click on him as a contact it doesn't say when he was last online. Hope that's helpful.

SurlyCue · 23/08/2015 21:50

I agree with pp he downloaded it 113 days ago and uninstalled

Not necessarily. My sister was last seen at 14.40 today but her status says 1116d 23h ago.

lifesalongsong · 23/08/2015 21:52

I think whatsapp came preloaded on my phone so I'd guess it would say I started on the date I got the phone.

Did he get a new phone 116 days ago?

dinkywinky · 23/08/2015 21:55

No the phone is quite a new upgrade. We have the same phones and what's app wasn't installed. He did say he had what's app before but deleted it. He also had Viber for a while, not sure what that is either.

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LosingTheWillToSkate · 23/08/2015 22:15

Viber is like Skype

Whatsapp still logs an account has been set up to your number even if you delete the app. I think you have to deregister your account.

If your partner had a secret phone it'd be almightily unlikely that your child would have the number of it in his phone contacts.

BocaDeTrucha · 23/08/2015 22:23

If you click on your dp on the contact list, as though you are going to start a conversion with him, then do the equivalent of right click on your phone, it gives you the option to view contact. This will show you what phone number is registered with the app.

lifesalongsong · 23/08/2015 22:29

Do you have any reason to think that your partner is being unfaithful?

You seem to be very concerned about a messaging method used worldwide to allow people to communicate for free. If he was messaging someone he shouldn't be he could do it just as easily by text or email, whatsapp isn't dodgy at all.

loveyoutothemoon · 23/08/2015 22:30

You have to download WhatsApp it's not already on a phone.

dinkywinky · 23/08/2015 22:45

Thanks for the replies.

Yes I think he is untrustworthy but Ive never had solid proof.

I found Snapsext in his website data before. I don't know what that is either but he said it was from going on a pornsite.

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dinkywinky · 23/08/2015 22:47

He said he'd never been on Snapsext though. It had 16 bytes in the website data.

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dinkywinky · 23/08/2015 22:51

The reason I thought that him having what's app was dodgy is because I get the bill and there's no record on what's app or Viber is there for me to see anything.

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TravellingToad · 23/08/2015 22:53

Open a message to DH and then click on his name at the top of the screen. It will show you his mobile number then at least you know if ots a secret phone. But if it is I doubt he would have tried to add your son from it!

bodenbiscuit · 23/08/2015 22:53

Click on it - the thing that says how many days ago is to do with e status only

SillyStuffBiting · 23/08/2015 22:53

There's no trust, is there?

ToastedStoat · 23/08/2015 22:53

loveyou it comes preloaded on some phones - My last one had it.

The Snapsext thing is more worrying though - if it just came from a porn site (unlikely, phones tell you when they're about to download something and if he didn't want it he surely would have stopped it) why was it on his phone?

Sorry OP I was hoping this was one of those innocent ones...

bodenbiscuit · 23/08/2015 22:54

Whatsapp wouldn't show up on a bill. How do you know he doesn't have it?

Beachday · 23/08/2015 22:54

the contact comes up on your son's whatsapp because he has the phone number as a contact.
If your H had a secret phone it wouldn't know that number, so couldn't be a contact

doesn't sound dodgy at all

ToastedStoat · 23/08/2015 22:56

Oh sorry, misread I thought snapsext was an app. I'm not sure if 16mb means he's used it, doesn't sound overly high to me. And yes, WhatsApp goes by phone number not username or anything that could be easily changed. Apparently David Cameron wants it banned because the messages are encrypted so terrorists could use it to plan attacks undetected.

Shutthatdoor · 23/08/2015 22:58

I can't see that it would be a secret phone otherwise why your would your DS have the number?

You may have reason to believe he is in trustworthy, but this is a red herring IMO and nothing untoward.