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Please help me

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handfulofcottonbuds · 21/08/2015 22:18

Some of you may know my story. I can't believe I'm posting again for advice.

I need help please.

I finally divorced my cheating exH but I am still in limbo 2 years on. My house sale is about to fall through and those who know me, know how much it means for me to move out and start again. I was NC with my exH for 18 months through the divorce but now I have to be in contact with him through the house sale. This is so hard and I am slowly losing my dignity.

My exH says that as 2 years have passed, my 'difficulties' in selling our house have nothing to do with him.

I've found out that everything he is doing with OW is what we used to do and it hurts so much. Why??

Why is he re-creating our 11 years with her and she has no idea that it was the life we lived?

My family have all but given up on me. I drink too much (so hard to write that down) but I need to sleep.

2 years on - please, please tell me it will be okay. I try to help so many women on here but right now - I'm struggling and am ashamed for that.

I'm so tired. Please help me x

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rollmeover · 23/08/2015 15:11

Sounds awful for you Cotton. Not much practical help other than to also say Andrew Johnsons stop drinking app is great (as are his others) for helping get to sleep and reduce/stop drinking.

Best of luck

britneyspearscatsuit · 23/08/2015 15:14

Cotton

I lack the vast wisdom and sense of most of the amazing women who have been there through this journey for you, but just had a few random things to say.

The first is that I went through similar ish to you a couple of months after you did and posted on here (NC since then) and you gave me great support and strenght. None of us are alone. It only takes the kindness of strangers on the internet to remind us of that.

Second of all, that in the midst of all the batterings, rejections and betrayals we lose sight of who we are and what is really going on. I don't know your xh, but I have read most of what you have posted and have also watched you and how you have grown, inspired others and approached all of this with courage and no bitterness. Whether you remember it or not evry minute of every day the facts of it all speak for themselves and where it truly matters you are a better quality human being than your XH. The person who has lost out is him, not you.

Third of all, I know how it feels when you feel like you are fighting your way forward but you are swimming upstream because of other problems. How nice it would be to be given the opportunity to grieve in peace without needing to manage the practicalities. Divorce, housing problems, family problems, work problems. When these thing come along all at once, in cobination of the emotional pain it does just make you feel fucking exhausted. I still have some away days, and they come and knock me down out of nowhere and when they do the words that go round and round my head are; "I'm so tired".

Fourth, my family are the same. they wonder how I am not fully over it, they think I am weak, they can't be fucked with it. But you know what - I read a quote that saying you have no right to be unhappy because someone has it worse is as moronic as telling someone not to be happy because someone has it better.

Fifth, pain demands to be felt. The most unhealthy people in the world find clever ways to push it to the side, to escape from it, to hide from it. You have been facing it day after day and you know already that this process has made you a better person. Deep down you know that, so keep up the fight. No matter how many times you get bashed down get up again. And put the bottle down. Put the bottle DOWN because you can do this. You can, and every time that bottle goes in your hand you are trying to block out that which demands to be felt. And it will find you, no matter what you do.

Sixth, everything you feel is normal, natural and the sign of a loving and loyal heart. The person who is abnormal in this story is not you.

I posted this on another thrad about grief the other day as it was a reminder to me that the way grief works is in these waves. Right now you are in a wave storm that WILL calm, and the waves will spac out further and get smaller again until eventually you find calm seas again - as a wiser, stronger and more loving and sensitive woman than you have ever been.

www.tickld.com/x/old-man-explains-death-and-life-to-grieving-young-man

I also loved this one:

www.rebellesociety.com/2014/11/13/all-this-fucking-time-and-i-still-feel-grief/

You have had so much to grieve dear cotton, but in the acts of suferring the insuferrable you are never wrong, never flawed, never
doing or thinking or feeling anything you should be ashamed of. Every minute of that pain comes from love you once felt and all the sahme belongs to someone else.

At th end of all of this you will get a fresh start, you really will, and you will find that prtnership and love again with someone more worthy and you will look back and be so glad you were relived of the burned of a lifetime with someone who was just never made of the same stuff as you!

AnyFucker · 23/08/2015 15:33

amen

iwashappy · 23/08/2015 22:23

Cotton I'm so sorry that you're feeling like this sweetheart. You've done brilliantly to get to where you are even though it probably doesn't feel like that at the moment.

As others have said looking at each of the things causing you stress individually rather than as one big problem does help.

I'm not on any sleeping tablets or anything and I deal with the sleep issue by going to bed far too late. Probably not to be recommended as I don't get enough sleep but because I'm really tired when I go to bed it does mean I fall asleep within twenty minutes or so most nights. As I said it's not ideal but I prefer that to going to bed at a normal time and then being awake for hours.

I've probably drunk more alcohol in the last year than I had in the previous twenty years. It helps sometimes. If you're drinking half a bottle of wine each night I really don't think that means you have an alcohol problem. It's a coping mechanism until things get a bit better and they will do, it does take time though and you're having to deal with a lot more than just your marriage breakdown. If you do feel it is a problem then perhaps challenge yourself and say today I'm not going to have a drink. Hard to do if you're not in a good frame of mind but I think the problem is you are under a lot of pressure and in a negative frame of mind and the wine is a bit of a release rather than the drinking being a problem. I hope that you will find when you are in a better frame of mind that it won't be hard to not have a drink.

If your house sale does fall through, you will get another buyer even though it may take longer than you like. Things will get better.

As for your ex and the OW, they are both selfish and insensitive so they are just continuing to behave that way. Yes it does hurt like hell but he can never recreate the life he had with you, what he has now will always be inferior. Doesn't stop you wondering why and probably doesn't help but knowing why ultimately doesn't change the situation.

I remember you posting about your work situation before and I am sorry that it is not any better and that nothing has been done. There are normally laws against bullying in the workplace so I am wondering if you could get support from an outside organisation, I don't just mean a union, to force your employer to take this matter seriously.

You have nothing to feel ashamed about, but plenty that you should feel proud of. You take so much time on here to try and help others, giving support and encouragement and you come over as a lovely, kind and thoughtful person who has had a really rough time. It will get better for you, it really will. You are not alone, we are all here and want to help you. Flowers

handfulofcottonbuds · 24/08/2015 01:47

I'm sorry I haven't been back since my ramblings the other night - truth, I felt ashamed of my post.

Thank you for the pms and the amazing messages that I have now found the strength to read. I actually thought I'd get 'pull yourself together cotton' posts - but you have as always been so supportive.

I have a day off tomorrow so I will take time to digest the posts and think about things and reply.

Why didn't I post sooner?

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springydaffs · 24/08/2015 01:56

Oi. It's 2am, what are you doing up? Wink

Don't be ashamed. God, some of us just do get a major dollop of shit in life.

There a time to be strong but there is equally a time to let go. You're there, cotton. The rewards are immense - though it doesn't feel like that at the time xx

derxa · 24/08/2015 04:44

sorry cotton it's been shit. No advice but keep going my darling.

Alchemist · 24/08/2015 06:15

handful Thanks

I think we posted about our relationships ending just about the same time. And, much like you, I have been really struggling lately over eh and ow taking my DC on holiday. Abroad for 2 weeks. I totally get the "living our life over again*.

I am on benefits and just cannot give them the material experiences - I do know that doesn't count for everything but it really rankles when every month ex takes the DC to a London show, taking them out for meals every other weekend, new clothes and toys. I am jealous, I suppose.

I am going to read your thread from the beginning as I know there will be wise and valuable advise.

Thanks I wish you all the best and as much strength as you need. You will get through it but it doesn't feel like it. I will think of you today and send you hope and happiness. Thanks

sadwidow28 · 28/09/2015 22:19

Why didn't I post sooner?

Why indeed cottonbuds. I don't post much on your threads because I can't advise on infidelity and break-ups. But I am always here in the background ready to hold your hand if you need it.

PuellaEstCornelia · 29/09/2015 08:42

About the bullying at work - speak to your Union. I'm a union rep and I know we have been able to offer some advice to people who are not members - although obviously we can't protect them the way we can members. Speak to them about joining - the fees might be a lot less than you think, and there might be arrangements they can make in your financial circumstances.

Itisbetternow · 30/09/2015 16:09

How are you Cotton? Sorry I missed the start of your thread as I was on holiday and have only just seen this.
(I posted on your previous threads as Stbxh had affair too so understood what you were going through) .

Malamutes · 04/10/2015 08:07

Hi Cotton, I posted on your previous threads, have sinced name changed. Just hoping you are OK and to say we are here for you. My DH had fling with my BF ... Finally getting my act together has taken years. M x

thejanuarys · 04/10/2015 14:57

So sorry to read about your sadness.

But you should do things one step at a time. Phone Alcoholics Anonymous. Seriously. I have two friends who did so many many years ago, and it is the right thing to do if alcohol is the thing you resort to. They provide great help groups, which means you will get in touch with other people who are experiencing anxiety about something, and then take it from there. Talk it out from there.

Any step like this will give you the impetus to shift other things in your life. And having a MH problem is no big deal - it just means that you need to speak to a counsellor face to face. And therapy is a good thing - it allows your mind to just reveal and divulge and in that release, relief does happen. So go back to GP and ask for it.

I think shame is one of the biggest hurdles we have to overcome - there is nothing to be ashamed about. This is normal. We've all had such wobbles in our lives.

Good luck

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