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Desperately need advice - depressed boyfriend

100 replies

100thattemptatausername · 15/08/2015 14:30

This is going to be a long one so I apologise in advance.
I don't know if I'm in the right place for this, I have been with my boyfriend for just over a year. When we met, he was attentive, caring, affectionate both physically and emotionally. He left me in no doubt that he wanted to be with me, when I spoke he listened, when I didn't he'd ask me questions to learn more about me. This continued for about 6 months, we had such a good honeymoon period, then, he began to change.
It went from him texting or calling me (evenly balanced) to me always texting or calling, often he won't reply or answer the phone. I'm always the one arranging things and mostly we just stay in, he doesn't want to go out, a few months ago he told me he's sinking back into a depressive state (he's been depressed twice previously) I asked him what I could do and he told me nothing, he asked me not to try and help him or it could cause problems.
I'm sure it's his depression that's changed him, he hardly speaks to me anymore, when I do speak I'm told what I'm saying isn't interesting, his favourite question is "is what you're about to say going to interest me" and then I'll be told a more interesting story from his life. If I try to start a conversation I'm told he doesn't want deep conversations, I've seen him texting another woman we both know, she keeps asking how he is etc but he keeps saying she's asking him for favours. He says this a lot, and I know he's lying to me, he says there's another girl who texts him bothering him but, again I know it's a lie (when he's been drinking he's honest and tells me the truth) We aren't having sex anymore, which I understand is a side effect of depression, he's not on any medication, nor is he seeing a counsellor or equivalent. He's told me he's busy most days this week so I've had to leave relatively early each morning, yesterday I left then about an hour later had to drive past his house (it's on a main road) and his car was still outside, he told me he was leaving straight after me.
I love this man, and I know he loves me. He will do anything for anyone usually. I know this is the depression but I feel like I'm fighting a losing battle. I feel like a burden in his life and by wanting to see him I'm adding to the pressures in his life. He keeps telling me I seem to have a lot of drama in my life recently (I don't) and that he used to like I had no drama, I talk to him about a situation that upsets me and I'm told I'm making him feel pretty shit.
Can anyone offer any advice how to support him and give him his space without losing him? He's begun to make me feel so crap when I'm with him and I don't want this to cause a rift between us. The fact he has depression doesn't scare me off, they fact he's building this wall and blocking me out but not others makes me think we could be close to the end.
I've tried not texting or calling, he then doesn't text or call, I've tried calling him out on it and I got told his life was shit and that I shouldn't give him an ultimatum.
This is overflowing into my other relationships in life, I'm constantly thinking of him wondering how to make this better and what form of him I'll be seeing later that evening.
I don't know how to fix this, I know I can't fix him and depression takes time, but how do I make sure our relationship becomes stronger for this?

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100thattemptatausername · 15/08/2015 21:17

Thank you for talking today. Flowers I appreciate it

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thehypocritesoaf · 15/08/2015 21:20

Please open your eyes op.

If your friend said to you the guy she's seeing won't shag her, won't see her, can't be arsed to text her but texts other women, tells her she's not interesting etc etc, she feels deeply unhappy, she has to modify her behaviour around him, you'd actually think the guy is in love with her?

How is that possible?

100thattemptatausername · 15/08/2015 21:23

I know when it's said like that it sounds awful. He does have good days however and he is good to me at those times, I believe the lack of sex is because he has a low sex drive with the depression. The other women are friends of his I truly believe (or maybe after this thread want to believe) this will all pass once he receives treatment.

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cozietoesie · 15/08/2015 21:25

Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof, I think thehypocrites?

Much will be clarified for the OP tomorrow - whatever happens - and I would guess that she'll return with a clearer appreciation of her situation.

thehypocritesoaf · 15/08/2015 21:29

What does that mean cozie? I can't work it out Blush

Good luck op.

cozietoesie · 15/08/2015 21:32

It means - she has a lot on her plate to think about already, I guess?

thehypocritesoaf · 15/08/2015 22:00

I googled it, yes.

Take care op.

ohlamour · 15/08/2015 22:31

Hi OP, I actually felt a little freaked out by reading your thread as it mirrors almost EXACTLY what happened to me. And I've written about it on here! Basically: met a guy (we had both left marriages - not to be together, but previous to our meeting), he bowled me over with love & affection for the first year. But he always went on about how shit his life was (despite allegedly loving me!). He always claimed depression, refused to see doc etc etc. in Feb this year things went downhill rapidly. Affection was withdrawn, he hardly ever wanted me, spent all our time together complaining about life, the universe & everything. I could feel myself going down with him, so powerful was his hold over me. But I've got two dc (not his), so I just could not allow that to happen. Much as he was part of my life, much as I thought he was a 'good man' (which I'm now not SO sure about) I had to let him go as he simply would not help himself & loved to revel in his misfortune/how bad his life was (it wasn't really). I went NC & told him to come back to me when he'd sorted out his life. Ten weeks on & surprise surprise , I've heard nothing from him, because he knew I'd called him out. I miss what I thought I had with him: the company, the laughs, doing stuff together etc. I don't miss the constant negativity, the complaining & the walking on eggshells ALL THE TIME. Trust me, it won't get better. He won't change. Save yourself & leave before you get dragged down too. All the best xxx

Smilingforth · 15/08/2015 23:16

Wow.. V hard Flowers

100thattemptatausername · 16/08/2015 12:01

Thanks for sharing that ohlamour, I've text him today to try and arrange to talk, he hasn't replied, it's been over an hour. i know he's been sleeping a lot lately because of his depression though.
I'm scared to call because I don't want to upset him, I will text him again later.
I've been up all night thinking of all this, I'm going to have to end it I know this, I just hoped this morning he'd be different.
I'm sorry for the many posts and for taking up much needed mumsnet space while other people are going through things that are so much more serious, I just really love him and right now I feel like my world is ending.
I just thought I'd post the update.

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Gabilan · 16/08/2015 13:39

OP if people didn't want to reply they wouldn't! And of course this is serious to you - it's your relationship.

Thanks for the update. Good luck with talking to him.

100thattemptatausername · 16/08/2015 14:28

Here's the latest problem. He did text back eventually, saying he needed time alone again and wasn't feeling up to going out, I said fine and hoped he would want to meet up later so we can talk. He said he's having a very low day and doesn't think he can talk.
I don't want to do this over text message or phone call, nor do I want to ghost him.
I don't feel I can instigate any sort of conversation with him now, and I don't want to text him or call him again asking to meet up. I know he'll see me as being needy (he's previously said this) I need to be strong or appear strong in this, it feels like he's giving me such a mindfuck?
I'm feeling so guilty about this whole thing, does anyone have any ideas how to get him to see me? I need to do this while I'm strong.

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cozietoesie · 16/08/2015 14:43

Goodness - don't worry in the least about posting. This is a serious matter to you.

It sounds as if he's playing his depression hole card to get you back into the box and behaving appropriately - that's appropriately as far as he's concerned.

He actually said you were 'needy' ? That came close to making me spit out some tea over the computer keyboard. Grin

cozietoesie · 16/08/2015 14:46

PS - have you left any real important stuff at his place that would necessitate a visit to pick it up?

100thattemptatausername · 16/08/2015 14:54

I don't know if he realises exactly how he's being, but I did suspect the whole I need to act appropriately and he will keep me at arms length till I do. I'm worried about that, because I don't know how much longer I can stay strong in this.
He has my iPod, everything else I can replace easily, clothes, toothbrush, makeup. I suppose thinking of that, ghosting really isn't an option.

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Gabilan · 16/08/2015 15:28

When do you need your iPod back? Can you give yourself a week without him (and the iPod)? Then you might just find you become stronger because a week without feeling hassled by him may feel really good. Then go round next weekend to pick up your stuff and say things aren't working for you. Tell him if he goes to his GP and works on his depression you'd like to hear from him but unless he does, you're not his therapist.

What do you think would help you stay strong? What do you think you'll do if you weaken?

100thattemptatausername · 16/08/2015 15:45

I couldn't give myself a week, entirely because I am weak, if I don't talk to him for the rest of today, maybe even tomorrow, I will call him on Tuesday (at the latest) apologising for being distant and just hearing his voice will make me crumble. God I'm pathetic! I hate knowing this, because right now I feel so strong and that other part of me is so pathetic and needy!
To stay strong I just need to break this off now, I need to be able to talk to him and clear the air (I'm very much a talker) I need to stay busy which is easy during day time, but at night, I'm alone.
If I weaken, it'll be what I have described, I'll apologise and I'll run back to him, he'll change for a day or so and then this will happen again. Yet this time, I don't know if I'll ever be this strong again.
What a mess! I just wish he'd get help, I wish he was the man I know he can be. I think right now I even wish I hadn't got involved with him in the beginning, bloody men!

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thehypocritesoaf · 16/08/2015 15:50

What will you apologise for?

I don't really understand the problem here - As usual he doesn't want to see, speak or communicate with you. This is what he regularly does, no?

All you have to do is, next time he gets in touch say, please get my stuff ready xxx is coming to get it, we're over.

Flowers Then maybe think about counselling because thinking yourself in love with someone who constantly avoids you, insults you, calls you needy and boring, is not at all sensible or good for you.

100thattemptatausername · 16/08/2015 16:01

I'll apologise for ignoring him (ironic no?) because while I'm giving him time I will be berating myself for not dealing with it by talking to him.
The thing is, I don't believe he will get in touch with me, I will have to contact him first.
I need to be able to deal with this face to face, to get my iPod and return his things to him, which I've been gathering today.
I can't believe this is happening, I can't believe he's become this. I don't think I need counselling, I think I need to be single for a long time, get my head together and somehow become this strong woman every other women in my life seems to be.

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Gabilan · 16/08/2015 16:05

100 are you aware of the extent to which you do yourself down? You've apologised to us for being on MN. You're calling yourself weak and pathetic. You say other women seem to be much stronger. And I have a horrible feeling that now I've pointed this out, you'll apologise for it!

I think Hypocrite has a point. Think about doing something for your own self esteem.

As for this man being good, well you have at least as much evidence that he's a wanker. He was nice for 6 months, he's been nasty for 6 months. Because he got the nice side in first, you think that's who he is. It might not be. He's just as much Hyde as he is Jekyll.

100thattemptatausername · 16/08/2015 16:29

You are right, I want to apologise for it all now. I do want to spend some time improving myself, but I don't know if I need something relating to self esteem. I'm really much better than I sound here.
I do have as much evidence that he's a dick, yet, even though he's been such a dick for the last six months or so, there are moments where he is that man I met again and that man, I love so deeply and I become terrified of being without him. However. That isn't enough any more, not at this point, he needs to get his act together, and I need to get my own together to walk away.

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cozietoesie · 16/08/2015 17:14

You do indeed. I'd just walk. Now.

Do you have a friend or relative that can go over on your behalf and pick up at least your ipod? (And deliver his stuff back to him at the same time.) Someone who's dispassionate enough to go in there like a dose of salts and just do those things?

And if you feel wobbly over the next while you can always come on here and talk to people.

100thattemptatausername · 16/08/2015 18:06

I could ask my brother to go and get my things and drop of his things, however, my brother is very protective and I cannot see that ending well. Especially as I've been unable to contact my boyfriend (seems ridiculous calling him that right now) today, he would feel like his legs have been kicked out from underneath him and I owe him more than that. It hurts my heart to think of treating him like that.
I'm going to try and talk to him again tomorrow, if not, I suppose what will be, will be

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cozietoesie · 16/08/2015 18:15

You owe him nothing, 100th so don't think like that - that's the way you're being set up to feel.

Your brother is better than you - even if only by a short head. (You would just cave and go all wobbly and he might keep his temper.) I should imagine your Ex gets home at a reasonably predictable time each day and that his car is parked outside when he's in?

pocketsaviour · 16/08/2015 18:30

OP. You don't have to answer if you don't wish to, but something for you to think about.

In your parent's relationship, was one of them frequently ill, or have an addiction, or a MH problem? Did the marriage revolve around that individual's needs?

Have you been raised with the expectation that it's your role to put everyone else first and your needs don't matter? Have you been moulded into a Fixer role?

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