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Porn

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CryingMummy · 28/07/2015 15:39

Two days ago, I discovered that DH, who works away a lot, had been regularly using porn. He has also admitted to having "crushes" on people. He says he started the porn use because there wasn't much sex and both denies that is has contributed to less sex (the admission came when I challenged him as to why he didn't seem to want me anymore) and that there is anything wrong with it. In trying to reassure me, he said he "only" watched "ordinary" women pleasuring themselves. He has also watched women with other women. I am not certain of the exact span (he says about once a week for "years"), but, during this time, I have been bringing-up our children and having high-risk pregnancies then beast-feeding.

I feel very strongly about porn. We were both very innocent when we married and I find it hard to realise how many other naked women touching themselves he has now seen. I also wonder how, as a father of daughters, he can use it.

I don't recognise him. I feel ridiculous. I don't trust him. Unless I mis-understood, it was lack of opportunity (he says he is socially awkward) rather than principles which have meant he hasn't slept with anyone else and he, very bitterly, said he had been "good". My marriage vows are so important to me and, though life has been busy and tough, I thought we could get through stuff together. He hasn't explicitly said that he thinks me a prude, but, when I asked why he didn't ask me to do something he said, surprised "But you wouldn't do that". I said, part from anal, which he doesn't want, anyway, and sending explicit photos (due to security concerns) I was willing to try anything.

I am very upset,so much the children are worried. I have confided in a couple friends in real life, but I feel adrift.

OP posts:
Offred · 28/07/2015 20:49

Well, I can see those things being levelled at the 'anti-porn brigade' Hmm what I don't see is me personally saying anything about porn users but offering a view about what the op's whole description of her relationship says to me.

I don't think it is unreasonable to conclude that when someone comes straight in as aggressively, and with as many ridiculous accusations, as reality did that they have an agenda - possibly that there is something about another person objecting to porn that they feel defensive about. In reality it shouldn't actuall matter to anyone else whether someone objects to porn or not.

Offred · 28/07/2015 20:50

No, I defend myself adequately when other people try to attack my right to feel the way I do. You don't like that for some reason....

Offred · 28/07/2015 20:59

The thing is no-one who objects to porn actually said that it isn't true that most men watch porn (or have watched as is what the research says). What has happened (as usual) is people who want to defend their own porn use against the perceived attack posed by someone not wanting to be with someone who watches porn have pronounced that people who object to porn believe that most men don't watch porn or that only a few men watch porn.

It's a tired argument IMO "all men watch porn, you make them lie, if you object you deserve to be lied to because porn is part of a man's sexuality and if you don't accept it you are controlling and unreasonable". Fact is porn users watch porn, people who object to porn don't and there's plenty of people on both sides, if people are honest about their feelings on it they end up in happier relationships with people who are happier because they are not lying and being lied to so really not sure why porn users on here are often so keen to put down people who object to porn with threats of bad behaviour or being alone forever. Either way it isn't your business and why exactly would you care?

CryingMummy · 29/07/2015 00:32

I have read and appreciated the time put into all the posts. I increasingly think that, important though it is to me, the porn is a bit of a red herring. I am not sure how to go forward, but I have valued seeing the different views on here and receiving the support I have. Thank-you.

OP posts:
Offred · 29/07/2015 01:09

Crying I think the best you can do right now is take some space from him to think. Think about what you want, why you are unhappy (specifically) and what you need. Then find out from whether he can provide it and decide whether, at this point, you trust him to try (for the right reasons).

Offred · 29/07/2015 01:10

I agree btw... If it weren't obvious! The porn is a red herring - it's what has brought the other more fundamental problems into focus for you.

BoxOfKittens · 29/07/2015 03:04

If your sex life is not fulfilling and you aren't having sex much then I can totally understand why you would suspect this new knowledge that he is a porn user to be the culprit of this. And it might be. If I were you I'd want to know what kind of porn he is watching and whether he picks that over sex with you on occasions when sex with you is possible (my boyfriend will use pornographic images when sex isn't possible). There may be other reasons. Sounds like you need to talk though as you aren't happy with your sex life.

To anyone who thinks that porn users and non porn users are even remotely close in numbers, just ask any friends who happen to be an IT specialist Grin

Jan45 · 29/07/2015 13:40

I think the fundamental point of the OP is this:
Unless I mis-understood, it was lack of opportunity (he says he is socially awkward) rather than principles which have meant he hasn't slept with anyone else and he, very bitterly, said he had been "good".

Inferring he hasn't cheated but not for want of trying. The porn use aside, I'd worry what else he is engaging in virtually.

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dadneedshelp72 · 15/01/2016 23:04

my wife and I used to watch porn together when our sex life was healthy
Neither of us was either for or against it morally.

Crying Mummy - I think one of the other posters hit the nail on the head
he hid it because he knew you wouldn't approve

My question is - Can the 2 of you rebuild your relationship - Do you want too

Would he rather watch porn than have sex with you - When he is at home ? - If so that is a big problem.

That's where I would start

I hope you can sort this out

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