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What would you think in this situation?

58 replies

DotDotDots · 27/07/2015 14:01

I've been dating a guy I met online for the last 11 months. We hit it off pretty well and things have gone quickly. It's not been without its problems, mainly around our respective dc not gelling very well but I've been very happy and could see a good future with this guy who I thought was very different from most (I know everyone thinks that).

We have both been cheated on and lied to in our previous relationships and BF made it very clear from the outset that he expected complete honesty from both of us. He even specified that he expected to be told if a guy had tried it on on nights out. And I duly obeyed his wishes.

However, over the weekend (which was a bit difficult because we had to have some in depth discussions about the future due to the DC's issues) he told me that he had bumped into an ex and she'd since been messaging him asking him if they could meet up etc. I'm not a jealous person normally and I trusted him implicitly so I wasn't too bothered but something irked a bit but I put it down to the fact that we had been having difficult conversations about the future.

However, he called me from work today to say that they didn't just bump into each other - she had invited him round to collect some stuff he'd left there (over 18 months ago). This was apparently a ruse and she had tried to kiss him. He says he pushed her away saying he had a gf. She has since been messaging him (not sure by what method as he told me he blocked her on facebook and he got a new number in the last 6 months) threatening to tell me that they'd slept together.

He met up with her last Wednesday and has only just told me this today. So he's effectively been lying since then. I have thought back to that day and he was let out early from work and called me to tell me that he was on his way. But he arrived much later than he should have and when questioned, said he'd bumped into a colleague and visited a friend.

I've asked him to send me screen shots of the messages between them but despite saying he would, he's not sent them through. I've also checked my other inbox on FB but she hasn't sent anything. He says she knows who I am but doesn't understand how Hmm. What makes this whole thing worse is that this isn't the first time one of his exes has threatened to tell me they were sleeping together behind my back.

He's adamant nothing has happened but it doesn't look good does it? I already feel betrayed by the fact that he delayed telling me and only did apparently as a reaction to her threats. Ive also lost a lot of respect for him since the lying has shown him to be a hypocrite if nothing else.

Not sure why I'm posting really. I'm hurt and feel like a fool for believing he was in any way different. But I'm not afraid to be on my own. So as in the title - what would you think in this situation and what would you do?

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dangerrabbit · 28/07/2015 07:53

I think you're well out of this one.

PreemptiveSalvageEngineer · 28/07/2015 08:00

Unless you're all Americans, and of the ilk that would go on Jerry Springer just for the backstage buffet, I'm finding it hard to believe that people out of the blue dog code to contact total (or at least relative-) strangers and assure them of a third party's great-guyedness. Didn't that strike you as a little odd, OP?

I seriously doubt these other people exist, of perhaps the DC's mum does but he hacked her account.

PreemptiveSalvageEngineer · 28/07/2015 08:03

I have no idea what "dog code" is, or how that got in there... Blush

scarletforya · 28/07/2015 08:08

He said, she said, exes, friends... Too many people involved. He's trying to portray himself as an irresistible innocent who is a victim of predatory women. Really OP?

It's ridiculous and teenage. Please don't waste time trying to unravel this nonsense.

goddessofsmallthings · 28/07/2015 08:30

The lying twunt man is a walking soap opera and you're best advised to stop being one of the many bit part players in his sad little drama.

I can't see you having a 'good future' with him when your respective dc don't get on as that's bound to be another source of conflict sooner or later and it wouldn't be fair on them to have to play 'blended families' to please their dps.

Your dc have been through enough. Bin him and save your sanity.

pictish · 28/07/2015 08:40

Drama drama drama. What an absolute performer he is. Must get bored easily.
I don't think he'd know the truth if it came up and offered him a role on Eastenders.

I certainly couldn't be bothered with all this carry on.

lighteningirl · 28/07/2015 08:41

Unless you enjoy this sort of drama dump him. Unless you are insecure enough to feel 'special' that you are the girlfriend and they are all ow dump him. Unless you are happy with a man your dc are not (don't get on with his dc huge warning sign) dump him. In a happy relationship this sort of confused lying crap doesn't not happen take a deep breath dump him and never entertain this sort of loser again.

pictish · 28/07/2015 08:44

And this idea he's trying to pedal of himself as the hapless victim of his exes and their desperation to have another go on him...excuse me while I laugh indulgently. Grin

He's a one isn't he?

bettyberry · 28/07/2015 08:50

GAwd he sounds like a right Drama Llama! Clearly he can't exist without women fighting over him so is either creating some sort of fantasy where they are fighting over him or IS cheating to live in the situation. Why else would he tell you and get his Ex and friend involved? especially the mother of his children who clearly knows what he is like? ugh!

Run, run away and leave him to his school yard antics.

goddessofsmallthings · 28/07/2015 09:06

You've gone from one lying twunt to another, honey. Time to get back to the drawing board and work out where you're going wrong because it seems you're easily taken in - could it be you only see what you want to see and are oblivious to the red flags waving while the warning sirens wail?

What manner of man would specify from the outset "that he expected to be told if a guy had tried it on on nights out"? One who's riddled with paranoia, one who regularly tries it on himself with random women, or one who gets some vicarious thrill out of hearing such tales? That alone would have ensured he wouldn't have got to first base with me but you "duly complied" with his off the wall unreasonable demand.

You've said you're "not afraid to be on your own"... now walk the talk and do the right thing for yourself and your dc.

DotDotDots · 28/07/2015 09:10

Thanks everyone.

I agree this drama is hugely off-putting. I haven't replied to either his friend or his ex. I'm not so sure why they're running to his defence although it's definitely from his ex because she goes on to say she hopes we can get to know each other better for the dc if me and him work it out. The whole thing just feels odd and uncomfortable. I don't like the idea of all these people feeling like they have the right to get involved in someone else's relationship.

Also, the dc do get on but they find it hard to be in each other's company for prolonged periods what with his DS being an only child and my two fight like most siblings. Aside from this, things have been pretty good between us. We've never argued. Up until now, he seemed so different from other men I know. He's sensitive, intelligent, ambitious and in touch with his emotions. He is more domesticated than me and very interesting and funny. A completely different calibre of man compared to the local 1950's rejects in my small arse end of nowhere town. When we met I was only looking for a casual relationship but we both fell, he harder than me but then I'm generally more cautious due to my past.

Still, none of this means anything if he is also a liar and a cheat. It does hurt because genuinely I fell in love with him and let my guard down because he seemed different. I never thought I'd be able to trust anyone 100% again but I trusted him implicitly. I'm also hurting because it really does feel like they're all the same so why bother.

Having said that, I was happy on my own before meeting him and I certainly don't feel like I need a man in my life. I just need my heart to catch up with my head. I've been through worse and I'm still standing so I know I'll get through this too.

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Rubgyshapedlegs · 28/07/2015 09:17

Well done you OP. You sound v sensible. Bin.

DotDotDots · 28/07/2015 09:18

I understand where you're coming from goddess but that request came about as a result of conversations we were having about our pasts. I'm not defending him but he has been massively lied to in the past about things you just don't lie about (think fake pregnancy) and of course the idea that we would have one of those relationships where we could share everything and be completely upfront and honest with one another, really appealed after being repeatedly lied to and cheated on for 12 years.

my gut feeling is that he isn't a serial cheat (having been with one for so long, I can recognise their mo). I think an opportunity presented itself and he was enjoying the ego boost (he's a little insecure). Of course, this alone is enough for me.

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pictish · 28/07/2015 09:19

Is he an Ernesto? Everyone knows one.

What would you think in this situation?
Rubgyshapedlegs · 28/07/2015 09:20

Loving Ernesto!

DotDotDots · 28/07/2015 09:23

Ha ha, Pictish, I love that! Until this, I'd have said he wasn't but it's only been 11 months so I guess it's a possibility. Some of my friends are very much like this. I just stay out of it. Can't be bothered with drama and soap opera lifestyles Grin.

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Penfold007 · 28/07/2015 09:29

How is he a different calibre of man? He demands honesty, full disclosure and your obedience but lies and is a hypocrite. He's told you as little as he can get away with. If she's threatening to tell you they had sex it's because they did. Does he 'allow' you contact with men friends? Dump him pronto.

pictish · 28/07/2015 09:33

Penfold I must say I concur. Succinctly put and all too accurate.

DotDotDots · 28/07/2015 09:41

Well, I guess he isn't Penfold but before this he certainly seemed to be. Of all my cohabiting/married friends locally, they all seem to have a traditional man/woman divide. I was certainly married to one such specimen. It could just be the circles I move in but it's generally the men playing cricket all weekend while the woman fall over themselves to make the cricket teas Confused. I feel like a lone feminist voice a lot of the time.

He was not in the least controlling and did more housework than me. I guess I've given a certain image of him by the language I've used but our conversations around honesty were mutual although I didn't ask him to tell me if anyone ever tried it on. I agree that's weird.

I'm not defending his actions at all but it's strange hearing him described as something he isn't. I actually still think he's a generally nice guy who fucked up but it's not my problem anymore. One fuck up is one fuck up too many.

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BathtimeFunkster · 28/07/2015 09:48

"He says he didn't ask either of them to get in touch."

Grin

Yeah right!

He must think you came down in the last shower.

differentnameforthis · 28/07/2015 09:58

So, expects complete honesty.

Lies about messages
Lies about going round there to get some stuff
Lies about where he was

He is lying. It is very possible he has slept with her.

differentnameforthis · 28/07/2015 10:05

Did they message you on fb?

Are you sure these women, who at one point were threatening to tell you that he had slept with them & who are now protesting his innocence, actually are real people (i.e not using a fake account)

Bloody quick turnaround from 'dobbing' to trying to save his arse!

Joysmum · 28/07/2015 10:11

Pmsl so these women magically became telepathic and suddenly felt the need to wade into your relationship?

The bloke is a liar who can't be trusted. They all start out as portraying themselves as trustworthy, that's how we get hooked. Some remain so, other lose that right, some sooner rather than later.

Count yourself very lucky all this is happening sooner rather than later Wink

justanaveragegirl · 28/07/2015 10:13

I am afraid I agree with the other posters....he is just trying to cover his backside!

Don't wait around to find out the truth (you may never get it), bin him now as it will the best things you can do for you and your DC.

Stay strong.

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