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They're making him choose!!

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tornandhurt · 08/07/2015 08:59

Ok so its been almost a year since I posted on here...I caught my husband cheating. A lot has happened since then, we worked hard and piecing our lives back together.

My relationship with my inlaws is non existent, to them I don't exist (for reasons that I wont go into and bore you with) - but I've accepted that I'm not part of their lives and have spent the last year, being civil, not interfering, allowing regular access to the children etc etc.....I've just sat in the background.

At the beginning of February I was hit out the blue with divorce papers, on the grounds of unreasonable behavior. My husband stood and lied to my face telling me he didn't instruct a divorce he simply went along for some advice, as we'd hit a rocky patch........this has gone back and forth for months, to the point that he was to return a revised petition a couple of weeks ago. In all of this I'd point out that he's continued to tell me he loves me, that this isn't what he wants and that he knows he needs to sort himself out.

So a couple of weeks ago we decided to work on things properly. We've been doing really well. I told him that I couldn't face the prospect of papers just arriving on my doorstep and that if he really wanted to proceed that was fine, but we needed to be adult about it and deal with things properly for the sake of the children. I also asked him not to play games as I was stressing that he was only being nice because it was our DS birthday at the weekend. He promised that wasn't the case.

So............still keeping up!........you can imagine the heartbreak all over again when last night when I asked what he was doing about the papers, as I had asked him to put things on hold, he informed me he returned them to his solicitor all signed and sealed.........the reason........I've finally got to the bottom of it...........his parents are making him choose between them and me. They're paying for the divorce and they're leading it!! - Aside from the obvious conversation that then happened (with me telling him how ridiculous that was at his age) I fail to understand how grown adults think thats the way to deal with things.

I'd point out this couple have 5 grandchildren, two of which are DDs of mine (technically not theirs) and they only now speak to my youngest DS.......They've cut my DDs out of their lives, and have cut their other two grandsons out........whats wrong with these people, and why is it so hard for DH to stand up and say "you know what, I'm not choosing, I love you both, I want to work on my marriage and still have a relationship with you as my parents separately" - am I asking too much?

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Dowser · 08/07/2015 12:54

So they've threatened to cut him out of their will?

He's cruel, heartless and you are so well rid.

Leave him to his money. Let him see it can't buy you happiness.

Dowser · 08/07/2015 12:55

Did they say...continue to see her and you won't get a penny from us. Mark my words!

tornandhurt · 08/07/2015 13:10

I suspect it was something along those lines.

I really do need to get some anger/clear direction in me, rather than being a doormat I know!

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cozietoesie · 08/07/2015 13:17

I don't think you've been a doormat up until now so much as striving to make things work for the sake, mainly, of the children. There comes a point though.........

expectantmum79 · 08/07/2015 13:33

You've not been a doormat, a little naive/optimistic perhaps but rather that than cold, heartless and grasping OP!

Your DH is a grown man and needs to take responsibility for his own actions. I don't think I could excuse him for allowing my DCS to be treated like that if I were you, let alone his own 2 DC. If he'd allow that then he won't give you a second thought. Find the strength to walk away; you deserve better than a spineless mummy's boy.

inlectorecumbit · 08/07/2015 13:53

I hope you are now not playing happy families with him.
H wants to be single -so be it.
H doesn't sleep in your bed, he doesn't get meals cooked or shoppng done for him. He can do a his own chores.
This is the life he has chosen--let him live it NOW.

Lweji · 08/07/2015 13:58

Do they know he cheated?

BitOutOfPractice · 08/07/2015 14:06

Why do you have to move out? Can't he go and live with his precious parents?

ButtonMoon88 · 08/07/2015 14:09

I've not read the entire thread but I think he is clearly using his parents as a scapegoat because he is too scared to admit the truth. Can you really believe anything he has said anyway?

It's shit but pick yourself up, dust yourself up and be strong in the knowledge that you are better than him and you will have a much happier life without him Wine

Dowser · 08/07/2015 14:32

They sound like real nest of vipers!

You're hurting now but once you start your channelling your inner anger you'll see all of them for the toe rags they are.

tornandhurt · 08/07/2015 14:52

I hope you're right Dowser. BitOutOfPractice, the house is currently in his name only as at the time of purchasing I wasn't working (just given birth and made redundant) - that's irrelevant though on the basis that I have Home Rights notice issued and my solicitor has already confirmed it makes no difference. The house was purchased whilst we were married as a marital home and I have more than contributed financially to it. The bottom line though is that he can't buy me out and I can't buy him out due to the amount of equity in the property, so it will have to be sold. He's refusing to go and stay with his parents (they live very close and have a spare room) and to date hasn't moved into the spare room in our house either.......which I didn't push as I was under the impression we were "trying."

It'll be a lot of change for everyone, I just worry about the children. Chances of me staying in our little village are slim to none, which means them having to move schools.

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Ohfourfoxache · 08/07/2015 15:33

You say they're making him choose.

Why don't YOU choose - take the decision out of their hands. Chuck the fucker out. Pack his bags, leave them on the doorstep and instruct a solicitor.

Atenco · 08/07/2015 15:33

So sorry this has happened to you, OP, but the truth is you are well rid of him. Liars and cowards do not good husbands make.

Lweji · 08/07/2015 18:57

take the decision out of their hands. Chuck the fucker out.

She can't. Not without legal backing.

But you can certainly move to the spare bedroom, start treating it all separately (go 50-50 on the children too) and move on with your side of the divorce.

goddessofsmallthings · 08/07/2015 19:29

I'm clearly just a mug though as I fail to understand why someone that wants a divorce can live as a married couple, trying, working hard at things and sleeping together

Please don't make the mistake of thinking that keeping him in your bed is going to enable him to man up and choose you over his dps.

It's merely a matter of a couple of weeks before you receive his revised petition for divorce and you're best advised to use this time to fully acquaint him with what his life will be like without you in it.

Either move his clothing etc into the spare room or move into it yourself, and make sure that whichever room you stay in has a lock on the door so that your private documents are safe from prying eyes.

Designate time on weekends and weeknights where he will be in sole charge of the dc and take yourself off out, even if it means roaming the streets or sitting in a cinema/pub until it's time to go home.

Make it clear that your life together is over as from NOW, don't be tempted to do any washing/cooking/cleaning for him, and proceed as if you're living apart - otherwise you will be allowing him to treat you as the "cheap wh@re" of your description.

IcecreamHavoc · 08/07/2015 19:29

Do they know it was HIM that had the affair or do they think it was you....?

newstart15 · 08/07/2015 19:46

This must feel like such a betrayal.I imagine he wants to keep up the "nice guy" charade but actually wants out.

Transition is always scary because you only have questions and uncertainty but you WILL get through this and come out the other side stronger and happier.

The change of house (whilst unsettling) can signal a new beginning.I stayed in the martial home as able to buy out my ex but in reflection I think it would have been best to move as it's signals a new start.

Hissy · 08/07/2015 19:49

I would pack his bags, take them to his parents house and tell them all that he has no more decision to make, that the choice has been made.

The vile parents would have to accept him into their home or else you'd be able to show the scumbag that his parents aren't on his side at all, and are just causing trouble for the sport of it...

HelloWheels · 08/07/2015 20:24

So sorry that you have treated this way.
The house doesn't have to be sold now. You can stay living in it with the children, keep them in school etc by having a legal "charge" put on the house so that it gets sold and split if/when the youngest child reaches 18 or you remarry etc the share would be agreed now but he wouldn't get any money until the charge become enforceable in the future.

Good luck x

WorzelsCornyBrows · 08/07/2015 20:42

Wow, his treatment of you is horrendous. If he won't move out, you need to move to the spare room. Do not treat him as a husband, no washing, cooking, cleaning up after him, treat him as an unwelcome lodger. He's told you the marriage is over so start treating it as that. It will be hard, but you need to look after yourself now. Stop enabling contact with his parents and your child. You owe them no such courtesy. Flowers

springydaffs · 08/07/2015 23:51

Never mind wh@re, I pray you channel your inner bitch.

Something somewhere seems to have encouraged you to be amenable and decent at all times, regardless of the circumstances. What's going on that you ACCEPTED your kids going to the repulsive parents who openly treated you like pure shite?? Apart from anything, that is desperately damaging for your relationship with your kids (if not your kids) - it is so bad for them to have ANYONE in their lives who treats you badly. What has happened to you in the past that you took back a man you actually caught cheating? It's a genuine question op - what has happened to you that you accept this? What did you learn about relationships as a child?

For now though, leave this diabolical, inhuman bunch of snakes. They are, he is, unbelievably vile. What an absolute headfuck Flowers Flowers Flowers

morethanpotatoprints · 09/07/2015 00:17

Do you know what, I think he's a lying scum bag and his parents are sick of his moaning to them tbh.
I can imagine myself with my ds x2 telling them they have to hurry up and make a choice.
it wouldn't be between me and their wife though, but because you don't treat people like that.
Maybe they don't like you very much or maybe they keep their distance because they know what their son is like.
I'm not saying this is definitely the case, but it wouldn't surprise me if you later posted this was the case.
You aren't going to ask them if he's lying and he knows this. Could the ow still be on the scene, this would be another reason they would be pushing for him to choose.

Aussiebean · 09/07/2015 02:38

I wonder what he will think of his choice when his parents are dead and buried, you have remarried a fabulous new husband and his children don't have a relationship with him because he expects them to put him first in everything.

DioneTheDiabolist · 09/07/2015 03:14

This is all very convenient isn't it?

He gets you to believe that it's not his fault (it's his parents). I have no doubt that he has told his parents that it is your fault OP. That way he doesn't look like the bad guy as he destroys a shit load of relationships.Hmm

Your (Ex?)H is a spineless, manipulative dick OP. Sorry for your loss.Sad

tornandhurt · 09/07/2015 08:51

Hellowheels - the chances of getting a charge on the house until youngest DS is 18 are very slim according to my solicitor, due to the fact he is so young (4) a court is unlikely to grant that as this is in reality the only asset we have and has a significant amount of equity. She believes the court would force sale on the basis that the equity should potentially be sufficient for us both to move forward independently. That's great except the chances of me then being able to afford re-purchasing somewhere close so as not to disturb schools etc is highly unlikely!

Springdaffs............that's a fair question. To be honest we knew each other for some considerable time before becoming an item. There was always an attraction and to be honest when we eventually got together and got married I felt that was it. I was happy and I was very settled. My 2 DDs are from previous and whilst he cheated and it broke my heart, I felt I needed to try as my DDs had already been through this before. That and the fact that I am stupidly still in love with him is what's made me stay.

You're all absolutely right though and I know I need to grow a pair myself and be stronger with him and the situation. I'm not leaving the house until this is settled and sorted, but yes I can move into another room.

The sad thing is that for someone who apparently wants this, he went to great efforts to hide, yes hide, the original petition from me! - what kind of sick person files for divorce and then when the papers are issued to his spouse hides them?!!

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