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DH not having an affair - for now

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LaChatte · 06/07/2015 17:45

So as not to drip feed or leave vital info until the end:

DH and I have been together 11 years, married 7, 2DCs.
I cheated on him 2 years ago with a colleague, we kissed a few times, I realised how stupid I was being, and put an end to it. DH found out a couple of months later, we worked through it, I have barely spoken to collegue since (we teach the same classes so there has been some communication, but alway in public and restricted to purely professional topics), and have avoided him like the plague.
DH and I talk a lot, including sharing our fantasies with each other.

Here is the current predicament:

DH and I are both teachers in the same school. We get on really well together, he's my best friend as well as being my husband.

This year, he's been working on a project with another teacher, so they've been spending a fair amount of time together. Frequently texting and emailing each other as well as working together at school. I have tried not be jealous, but walking into the staff room to find them huddled together giggling has been difficult for me.

I've told him I don't really want him to develop their friendship but he has told me not to worry and that she's not into him at all as she's offered to babysit for us and often says to say hi to me.

I know he finds her physically very attractive, most men who've met her do, she is always quite provocative in her way of doing things - think stripper heels, side-boobs under dungarees etc. and she's always leaning over something with her back arched and bum out (other colleagues joke about it in the staff room).

Recently a couple of colleagues have lightheartedly made comments about how much time they spend together and how close they are. I told DH and said I really really don't want him to spend time alone with her or to persue the friendship.

On Thursday evening there was an end of year do at work, I was feeling pretty awful after a long day, so didn't feel like socialising, and I ended up hiding out inside while everyone else was outside eating and drinking. DH came to find me at one point to see what I was up to, he saw that I wasn't feeling well and said we should have brought two cars, and then returned to the party. I was pretty pissed off, and decided to walk home after leaving him a note. He got home at about 21h30 as 5yoDD (who was at the party) was tired. He said he would have liked to have stayed longer and that I should have said I was leaving so he could bring DD and me home then. I was still pissed off, and said he should go back to the party as I wasn't going to be great company, so he did. He crept in at 1am (school parties generally end at 22h30/23h.

The next morning I asked how come he came home so late, so he told me some colleagues went back to one of their's "for coffee" which ended up becoming coffee and lots of booze. DH had gone to the after party in someone else's car, so couldn't leave earlier than when that driver was ready. Fair enough. He didn't drink, but said that everyone else got pretty wasted (not the person driving him though).

I then asked who was at the after party, he reeled off a couple of names, and then of course I'm sure you've guessed it, the colleague. I was annoyed, as she was there, on her own, with him on his own. She has a reputation for being outrageously flirty when she's drunk, but DH said he had never noticed. Anyway, I tried to move on and be mature about it.

Later on that day, back in the staff room, she walks in, sees DH but not me, and says "so, you see. I talk too much, even at night don't I?" Flirty giggling followed by "I hope I didn't get you into too much trouble". DH replied very quietly "you did" while furiously making gestures for her to be quiet as I was just the other side of the cupboard.

He came over to me saying it wasn't what I thought it was, so I asked what was I supposed to think, he just said that she had car pooled with him and the colleague driving to the after party, and that when they got back to the school car park, the driver dropped them off and left. He said they stayed and chatted just the two of them for a while in a dark secluded car park (he was incapable of telling me for how long).

He swears nothing has or ever will happen. I have said he either cuts contact with her or ... He is now sad because he thinks she's really nice and just wants to make friends, but he admits that the only way she seems to know how to do that is by seducing people. He doesn't want to hurt her, and thinks she won't know why he won't be his usual self around her, which he feels bad about.

It's the summer holidays here now, so I don't have to worry much until September, I have asked him to tell me if she gets in touch with him, which he's agreed to, but he's suddenly got quite cagey with his mobile which is very unusual. I don't know what to do, maybe I'm totally overreacting, he thinks I am.

Part of me thinks it's karma, and I totally deserve it (well, I probably do), but I don't want DH to have an affair to balance things out! What really annoys me is that he gets on so well with her as well as wanting to fuck her.

I need to get a grip and move on don't I? I am bloody lucky he was willing to give our relationship a chance after I fucked up.

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JohnFarleysRuskin · 08/07/2015 10:29

I feel sorry for you OP.

It sounds like you feel your hands are tied as you watch your DH flirt, sneak around, fantasize, 'lose track of time entirely', text and moon over this woman.

It sounds tough and I think you do need to be clear in your head - the way he's making you feel is not acceptable in a loving marriage. He needs to put you first. Not her. You.

I do think the fact that you got together when you both - especially him - were very young (and inexperienced) is a factor in this...Flowers

JohnFarleysRuskin · 08/07/2015 10:44

Also, sharing fantasies - fine.

Listening to your DH fantasize about the woman he spends loads of time with - not sensible. Really.

winkywinkola · 08/07/2015 11:01

"She'll know that he likes her"

Did your h actually say this?

If he did, he's acting like a lovestruck teen and I think you're in serious serious sh*t with your relationship.

You simply cannot be in a relationship with someone who is telling you he fancies and fantasises about another woman who he sees all the time. It is barking.

I wouldn't talk to the other woman at all. As you say, she will deny, you will look deranged and full of fiction. Personally, I would treat her without any friendliness at all. Icily polite "hello" and "good morning" will suffice. Do not make any effort. If she asks you whether there is a problem, ask her what she means? Do not give her any indication or insight into your marriage.

As for your h, he is behaving abominably and without any respect for you. If he did have respect, he would be working out ways to eliminate this very real threat to your marriage. He isn't so he doesn't really want the marriage to work. More, he doesn't care either way because he is in lust with this woman.

I'm sorry. This is really painful.

AnyFucker · 08/07/2015 11:39

I would kick this blokes metaphorical arse right out my door and into the middle of next week

what a piss taker

I couldn't live with this, and neither should you

HeisenbergSaysHello · 08/07/2015 12:11

He doesn't know if he'd be able to resist if she made a pass at him - he actually told you this, along with the fact he's told you he fantasizes about her, why on earth are you still with him????

My husbands bags would be packed.

How disrespectful to you.

LaChatte · 08/07/2015 13:40

He says he would be able to resist, but he's not very convincing.

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inlectorecumbit · 08/07/2015 13:48

enough said. Of course he wouldn't resist and l wouldn't be to sure if he hadn't already. He is talking bullshit and you know it.

Pack his bags, he is taking the piss.
Use the summer break to sort yourself out without this love sick Romeo moping about.
He must think you are really stupid to fall for all this crap

UncertainSmile · 08/07/2015 14:53

C'est Le Vent, Betty

winkywinkola · 08/07/2015 15:03

LaChatte, what do you think you should do?

Do you think he is on the brink of an affair or feel he has already done something?

TheDowagerCuntess · 08/07/2015 19:37

My advice is to stop being passive, sitting around waiting for the inevitable.

Take the bull by the horns and be the one in control. You're allowed to be, you know.

His behaviour is completely not OK. You don't have to accept this. Tell him to move out while you both decide what you want.

You don't want to do this because you're worried it will send him into her arms. Well, he's going to do that anyway.

Sending him away is ironically the only way of actually giving your relationship a chance. Demand some respect, and give him an insight into what he'll be missing.

LaChatte · 09/07/2015 11:04

Argh, he keeps saying that him treating her like I treat OM is completely unfair. He says nothing has happened or is going to happen, he's just happy to have a friend at work (he has only been working at the school for two years whereas I've been there for six, so apparently most of our colleges are my friends, she's the only person who he gets on with who is closer to him than me).

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Fearless91 · 09/07/2015 11:09

OP something has happened! Him lying about her has happened, him hiding away so he can text her has happened! Him spending time alone drunk in a car park just them two has happened.

That isn't what you do when it's just a 'normal' friendship!

LaChatte · 09/07/2015 11:15

He hasn't been hiding away to text her as far as I know, and he wasn't drunk in the car park. He says I pushed him to hide/lie because he was worried about my reaction though, which I think is unacceptable.

I need to get it all written down, clearly, so I can list to him what is wrong, because I keep getting fobbed off as being hysterical/paranoid unreasonable.

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GreatAuntDinah · 09/07/2015 12:18

This is what the saying "no zob in job" was invented for! Just adding another Hmm at teachers shouldn't act / dress like this.

winkywinkola · 09/07/2015 16:07

He fancies her. That in itself is a big problem

BathtimeFunkster · 09/07/2015 17:22

Argh, he keeps saying that him treating her like I treat OM is completely unfair.

Tell him that if having "friends" you fancy and fantasise about fucking is now fine, you are going to rekindle that friendship because he's your friend and nothing really happened between you, it now turns out.

See how he likes them apples.

TheDowagerCuntess · 09/07/2015 19:07

He says I pushed him to hide/lie because he was worried about my reaction

Ah right, well that him being crystal clear, then. I'm sure he'll lie about kissing her and having sex with her, because naturally your reaction to those things happening would be an annoyance, from his perspective.

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