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DH not having an affair - for now

117 replies

LaChatte · 06/07/2015 17:45

So as not to drip feed or leave vital info until the end:

DH and I have been together 11 years, married 7, 2DCs.
I cheated on him 2 years ago with a colleague, we kissed a few times, I realised how stupid I was being, and put an end to it. DH found out a couple of months later, we worked through it, I have barely spoken to collegue since (we teach the same classes so there has been some communication, but alway in public and restricted to purely professional topics), and have avoided him like the plague.
DH and I talk a lot, including sharing our fantasies with each other.

Here is the current predicament:

DH and I are both teachers in the same school. We get on really well together, he's my best friend as well as being my husband.

This year, he's been working on a project with another teacher, so they've been spending a fair amount of time together. Frequently texting and emailing each other as well as working together at school. I have tried not be jealous, but walking into the staff room to find them huddled together giggling has been difficult for me.

I've told him I don't really want him to develop their friendship but he has told me not to worry and that she's not into him at all as she's offered to babysit for us and often says to say hi to me.

I know he finds her physically very attractive, most men who've met her do, she is always quite provocative in her way of doing things - think stripper heels, side-boobs under dungarees etc. and she's always leaning over something with her back arched and bum out (other colleagues joke about it in the staff room).

Recently a couple of colleagues have lightheartedly made comments about how much time they spend together and how close they are. I told DH and said I really really don't want him to spend time alone with her or to persue the friendship.

On Thursday evening there was an end of year do at work, I was feeling pretty awful after a long day, so didn't feel like socialising, and I ended up hiding out inside while everyone else was outside eating and drinking. DH came to find me at one point to see what I was up to, he saw that I wasn't feeling well and said we should have brought two cars, and then returned to the party. I was pretty pissed off, and decided to walk home after leaving him a note. He got home at about 21h30 as 5yoDD (who was at the party) was tired. He said he would have liked to have stayed longer and that I should have said I was leaving so he could bring DD and me home then. I was still pissed off, and said he should go back to the party as I wasn't going to be great company, so he did. He crept in at 1am (school parties generally end at 22h30/23h.

The next morning I asked how come he came home so late, so he told me some colleagues went back to one of their's "for coffee" which ended up becoming coffee and lots of booze. DH had gone to the after party in someone else's car, so couldn't leave earlier than when that driver was ready. Fair enough. He didn't drink, but said that everyone else got pretty wasted (not the person driving him though).

I then asked who was at the after party, he reeled off a couple of names, and then of course I'm sure you've guessed it, the colleague. I was annoyed, as she was there, on her own, with him on his own. She has a reputation for being outrageously flirty when she's drunk, but DH said he had never noticed. Anyway, I tried to move on and be mature about it.

Later on that day, back in the staff room, she walks in, sees DH but not me, and says "so, you see. I talk too much, even at night don't I?" Flirty giggling followed by "I hope I didn't get you into too much trouble". DH replied very quietly "you did" while furiously making gestures for her to be quiet as I was just the other side of the cupboard.

He came over to me saying it wasn't what I thought it was, so I asked what was I supposed to think, he just said that she had car pooled with him and the colleague driving to the after party, and that when they got back to the school car park, the driver dropped them off and left. He said they stayed and chatted just the two of them for a while in a dark secluded car park (he was incapable of telling me for how long).

He swears nothing has or ever will happen. I have said he either cuts contact with her or ... He is now sad because he thinks she's really nice and just wants to make friends, but he admits that the only way she seems to know how to do that is by seducing people. He doesn't want to hurt her, and thinks she won't know why he won't be his usual self around her, which he feels bad about.

It's the summer holidays here now, so I don't have to worry much until September, I have asked him to tell me if she gets in touch with him, which he's agreed to, but he's suddenly got quite cagey with his mobile which is very unusual. I don't know what to do, maybe I'm totally overreacting, he thinks I am.

Part of me thinks it's karma, and I totally deserve it (well, I probably do), but I don't want DH to have an affair to balance things out! What really annoys me is that he gets on so well with her as well as wanting to fuck her.

I need to get a grip and move on don't I? I am bloody lucky he was willing to give our relationship a chance after I fucked up.

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wannaBe · 07/07/2015 10:25

I disagree with anyone who says that because the op cheated this is somehow her payback. Yes, she may have cheated with a colleague, but if she did and she and her dh worked through it then you don't bring it up years down the line in order to justify subsequent behavior. Either the marriage moved forward or it didn't. If it moved forward then what's in the past stays in the past. If it didn't then that needs to be addressed, but it doesn't justify the other party cheating years down the line.

Work place affairs are common, places like schools and colleges more so than anywhere else ime. Most teachers are married to teachers, how does that happen do you think?

Op what you need to do is to decide where you go from here. If he has admitted that he has feelings for this woman (and saying that he doesn't know whether he would be able to reject her advances is pretty much admitting that) then you need to decide whether your marriage has a future. Just because he forgave your indiscretion doesn't mean you have to do the same.

winkywinkola · 07/07/2015 10:35

Their time alone in the car park was arranged.

Something is going to happen between them if it hasn't already.

Your h fancies her like mad and isn't sure if he could resist it if she made a pass at him?!?! Wtf? How are you supposed to just accept that as his wife?

I would be livid with my h and insist that either he cuts contact socially or he leaves.

winkywinkola · 07/07/2015 10:36

And the way they are behaving skin crawlingly creepy.

LaChatte · 07/07/2015 11:19

I just want to believe nothing has happened, but am finding it really hard, it would be so easy for him to cover it all up Sad and I'd never know. I suppose I just need to decide to trust his word or not.

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BathtimeFunkster · 07/07/2015 11:28

But something has happened. Several things in fact

1 he has lied to you about his whereabouts when he was with her

2 he (and she) has made your work environment uncomfortable for you in a completely unacceptable way by their behaviour

3 they have both conspired together against you, "oooh, did I get you into trouble with your evil wife? Hmm

4 he has admitted that their relationship is based on sexual attraction and that his fidelity is unlikely

Whether there has been physical sexual contact yet, or not, this is already an affair.

It's already something.

You should wait a few days until he's not expecting it and then demand to see his phone straight away.

Fearless91 · 07/07/2015 12:29

OP there is already lying and secrecy. Whether they've slept together or not, he's gone out his way to lie to you. He ushered her to be quiet when she didn't know you were round the corner. Why do you think that is?

Of course there's something

A big part of me thinks he probably feels as if you deserve all this because of what you did which isn't true, because he chose to take you back, and by choosing to take you back means working though it and moving past that. Not getting your own back to even up the score.

If my partner said to me he'd like to think he would turn someone down but wasn't sure, that would be enough for me!

How does he expect you to continue this marriage when lets be honest he's admitted he might sleep with her if she gave him the opportunity?

missqwerty · 07/07/2015 14:44

Dread to think what school this is, teachers shouldn't behave like thar at all!

That aside, he's clearly interested in her and can't help himself. He's basking in all the attention and embarrassing you totally. Id have put my foot down long ago. The sad thing is the more you try reign this in the more he will be driven to bugger off with her. She sounds like a tramp who loves the attention and he sounds immature and blinded by lust.

FineDamBeaver · 07/07/2015 15:56

Sounds really difficult, OP.

Could you live forever with the continual feeling that your DH might feel he's "owed" an affair?
If not, perhaps you need a sort of ultimatum - either your marriage ends, or you wipe the slate clean and agree that neither of you can act that way. His friendship with this woman has to end (or seriously change). I suspect that given this ultimatum the thrill of the OW will fade fast as he realises what he stands to lose.

Jan45 · 07/07/2015 16:05

The two of them are making a complete fool out of you, to the point other work colleagues are commenting, that, in itself is bad enough.

Your OH is acting like a hormonal teenager and looking like an idiot - these two reasons are enough to pack him a bag, he has zero respect for you, that's clear.

Having said that, there is no trust between the two of you, I would also wonder how solid your relationship is, it sounds like it hangs on a thread and these dramas are there to spice things up. I'd give up on it myself and find a partner who actually loves me completely.

LaChatte · 07/07/2015 16:06

I think that's the only way Fine , a clean slate and him having the same relationship with her as I have with OM.

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LaChatte · 07/07/2015 16:20

He loves me, and I love him. I can't imagine being without him. I think that's as far as it goes.

I think there are issues which need resolving, for example I'm the only person he's ever had a relationship with whereas I have a "busy" past, I sometimes wonder if he regrets meeting me when he did, without having a chance to sleep around a bit to put it bluntly (he was 19, I was 23 when we met). Part of me thinks that he is curious, and maybe feels that the inequality between us on that front, is unfair.

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Jan45 · 07/07/2015 16:24

Maybe he should have thought about that before getting married then, sorry, it just sounds like there is little trust or actual 100% commitment on both sides, if you truly love your partner you don't do this kind of thing, especially in front of them, I dread to think what he would get up to if you were not there (or already has).

Maybe not the advice you were hoping for but the whole scenario sounds like one huge embarrassment.

answersonapostcardplease · 07/07/2015 16:26

You too sound erm, interesting. Grow up.

Branleuse · 07/07/2015 16:52

I think maybe you should suggest to him having an open relationship. If youre both up for cheating and everyone else is doing it, you may as well. You could get to shag your other man, he gets to shag sideboob, you still get to shag each other. Could be glorious. Have you considered swinging?

FineDamBeaver · 07/07/2015 16:58

I don't get those of you who are calling OP and/or her DH/workmates childish. What does it even mean? Life's messy. People (even married ones) fancy other people. People (even grown-ups) have boobs with sides. Would you think OP was less childish if she'd have screwed the OM rather than snogged him? Is jealousy a "childish" emotion? Not in my book. It all sounds very human.

Jan45 · 07/07/2015 17:13

I think folk are just surprised that married folk can carry on like this, I certainly am.

Fine to fancy people, we all do from time to time but to actually do what he is doing is pretty shitty behaviour in my book (regardless of what she did in the past).

LaChatte · 07/07/2015 17:53

Definitely couldn't be in an open relationship seeing how jealous I am of SB.

I think some people think that teachers are actually robots.

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Kiwiinkits · 07/07/2015 17:57

Classic transference. You are transferring your guilt onto him. And becoming a PITA. Leave the poor guy alone.

Kiwiinkits · 07/07/2015 17:58

The drama is childish.

Kiwiinkits · 07/07/2015 18:00

Ultimatums, checking phones, obsessing, making accusations. These things will undermine rather than strengthen your relationship. It's a path to nowhere.

Llareggub · 07/07/2015 18:07

No one is saying teachers should be robots, but I think we do expect a certain level of professionalism which doesn't appear to feature in your description of behaviour in your school.

AuntyMag10 · 07/07/2015 18:16

Maybe he lost respect for you when you cheated that's why he doesn't care who thinks what about his behaviour with this colleague. He may still love you but in a different way now.

CitySnicker · 07/07/2015 18:16

So teachers have to be more moral than other professions even if it doesn't impact on the kids? How will this morality and maturity be measured? Will there be a lie detector test?

ChristinaTweet · 07/07/2015 18:19

AF slapper and slag... sexist terms should not be used by women about other women imho

BathtimeFunkster · 07/07/2015 18:21

So teachers have to be more moral than other professions even if it doesn't impact on the kids?

Ummm, I think acting as adults in a workplace rather than horny teenagers in a field is ideal for all professions.