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When your DC's dad says "sorry, can't pay you anything this month".......

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notthestereotype · 28/06/2015 18:18

.....well what is your reaction?

I split from my DD's dad over 3 years ago. Both have moved on. Both have fiancees. Overall, I'd say we have an ok relationship, given that our split wasn't the most amicable initially and given that when we were together, we didn't really get on at all! Anyway, money was always an issue, even when we were together. He's admitted that he's terrible with money, but he just kind of accepts it and therefore, I think he expects others to too. Like it's almost amusing how terrible he is with money. Erm, don't think so. It's about as amusing as having a sneezing fit when you've broke a rib.

When we first broke up, he didn't really pay me anything. Just bits when he had it, which wasn't very often. Then after 6 months or so, I said enough is enough and that I would need a monthly amount. We initially agreed on £100, which tbh wasn't realistic, or fair, so we then agreed to double it to £200. However, ever single month WITHOUT FAIL, there is always a problem! I have to remind him several times and we normally end up bickering about it. It's ridiculous! By the time I actually get anything, it's normally at least a week late, but this month when I reminded him (again) he said really casually "yeah, sorry, no can do. Haven't got anything for another 3 weeks" I told him that it was completely unfair and that he should be budgeting for this, like we have to all the time! He just said that there was nothing he could do and I think expected that to be it, but I can't let this go can I?

Unfortunately, he's self employed, which means that if I did take it to the CSA (which I really don't want to), I'd probably be entitled to much less than he's already, occasionally giving to me.

WWYD?

Thanks

OP posts:
butterflygirl15 · 03/07/2015 10:27

do you think it is worth you calling child maintenance and seeing what advice they can offer? The way he is messing you around is just so blooming unfair.

Melonfool · 03/07/2015 10:28

The problem when someone is 'self employed' is that the CMS have a lot of problems taking money from them - I have a few friends whose exes hide the money in their business accounts, pay it to other people, pay it as dividends instead of wages - all so the CMS (and their own bloody kids) can't have it.

A guy at work was whining to me the other day about his ex - he has two kids with her, he earns, self-employed, £1k per DAY. He pays her £2.5k and said that he made a big mistake letting them assess him at the one point he was in a job, so the payment came out high and he can't get out of it. Doesn't seem too high to me.

Anyway - what does he do 'self employed'? If he's truly self employed there's not much you can do. But could he get an employed job with his skills? Is it worth it? I know you have no control over this but it might be worth suggesting to him?
Could report him to HMRC if his self-employment is iffy - that might force him into proper employment (obviously not if he's like a decorator or something).

I agree many of these guys seem to think the money is somehow for their ex-w. How anyone can live with themselves when not paying towards their own kid's upkeep is beyond me - when they have the money, as he seems to when he chooses.

MrsHathaway · 03/07/2015 13:29

The problem when someone is 'self employed' is that the CMS have a lot of problems taking money from them - I have a few friends whose exes hide the money in their business accounts, pay it to other people, pay it as dividends instead of wages - all so the CMS (and their own bloody kids) can't have it.

Yes, I know someone who earns nearly nothing from his business, but his girlfriend (whom he employs, which is how they met) seems to be doing very well for herself Hmm

whothehellknows · 03/07/2015 20:29

Mine "can't afford" to pay me anything. At all. After all, he only brings home about £2000 a month. It's more than I earn, but obviously he needs it to maintain the house that the children no longer live in. Also the motorbike that they can't ride...

blackheartsgirl · 04/07/2015 22:43

mine didn't pay me for 8 months and I've just had a payment from him now, not the full amount of course.

He reckoned he was broke but then he told me he had to pay for his other daughters nursery fees so his girlfriend could go to work. And they had nights out to pay for. I was fucking fuming as I work as well it apparantly our kids were older so didn't really need the money Angry

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