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Got 'played' by a nice guy

90 replies

niceupthedance · 04/06/2015 19:35

Feeling very stupid and more than a bit upset at the latest online dating mug-off and wondering where I went wrong?

My history with online dating has not been good. Last two men I had sex with disappeared afterwards (I don't have sex with everyone I date), so that hit me pretty hard. The first had done the three-date 'say the right things' and then disappeared, the second I slept with on the first date (so to be expected I suppose). But I was determined not to make it a hat-trick.

So met this guy, he is totally different from my usual type; respectful, feminist, quite a deep thinker sort. He came with his own problems - namely a pregnant ex from a fling, which he told me about on the second date (just after he had presented me with a book he thought I would like). I spent a while talking to him about my expectations; that I didn't want to have sex with anyone if they were not sure about continuing to date afterwards, he reassured me that he was not a "going for the goal" type chap so date three lasted all weekend and was very pleasant. (!)

After that, I was unavailable for two weekends and then had an operation. He offered to 'keep in touch', which he did, loosely, which was fine. I did notice though that if I mentioned meeting up when I was child free (eg on a weekday) he was busy, and did not offer an alternative. This pattern has continued for six weeks. I have called him on it once, he was adamant that he was 'keen' to see me still. Yet the last message, which was a reply to my asking when he was free, was him saying he had started his course and things would be full on this week and the next. So obviously I have cut my losses and wished him well.

So in summary, how can you continue to date when you can't trust your own judgment, or believe anything anyone says? I feel like whoever I choose they end up being a game playing dickhead, whatever they say. Feeling very miserable this evening.

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AnyFucker · 04/06/2015 22:12

I am a self confessed gimmer [smile}

AnyFucker · 04/06/2015 22:12

I am a self confessed gimmer [smile}

AnyFucker · 04/06/2015 22:12

I am a self confessed gimmer [smile}

AnyFucker · 04/06/2015 22:12

I am a self confessed gimmer [smile}

AnyFucker · 04/06/2015 22:12

oops

AnyFucker · 04/06/2015 22:12

sorry about that

EhricLovesTheBhrothers · 04/06/2015 22:13

Clearly! Grin

handfulofcottonbuds · 04/06/2015 22:13

What did you say AF?

AnyFucker · 04/06/2015 22:14
Blush
BitOutOfPractice · 04/06/2015 22:17

But are you a gimmer AF? I think you should confess if you are

handfulofcottonbuds · 04/06/2015 22:18

BOOP Grin

AnyFucker · 04/06/2015 22:22

Would you believe me if I said the cat walked over the keyboard ?

EhricLovesTheBhrothers · 04/06/2015 22:23

A likely story HmmGrin

AnyFucker · 04/06/2015 22:26

the baby was sick on it ?

BitOutOfPractice · 04/06/2015 22:29

I remember on that thread where the 20 something man came onto MN to offer us old gimmer mere women advice on how to use the internet, someone said "thank god you're here to tell me what to do, so far I've just bashed the keyboard with my tits and hoped for the best"

Wad it that AF? Grin

AnyFucker · 04/06/2015 22:32

who was it who said that ? I'd like to shake her hand Grin

Charley50 · 04/06/2015 22:33

Classic! Grin

Branleuse · 04/06/2015 22:34

just sounds like hes not that into you. Doesnt mean he was bullshitting.

BitOutOfPractice · 04/06/2015 22:34

That whole thread made me guffaw! It must be in classics!

MrsNextDoor · 04/06/2015 22:44

I had a flatmate like this man OP. Very intelligent, certainly SAID he was Feminist and may have believed in Feminist principles on paper but not in practice!

He was also a deep thinker, very charming and kind too...but he was a total shagabout! Rude to women when he'd grown tired of them too.

Thenapoleonofcrime · 04/06/2015 23:01

This is a very funny thread, for the wrong reasons possibly.

OP, I think you have to think about it as trying each other out in those early dates (first couple of months) rather than as a contract sealed by sex which then shouldn't be broken. You are assessing him, he is assessing you- and you know if it works because it keeps going, and you know it doesn't because it doesn't!

I really don't think after two or three dates you can ask someone to commit to you relationship-wise just because you have had sex. If you know you are the kind of person who feels quite involved if you have had sex (some do, some don't) then I wouldn't have sex til a bit further in the relationship.

I do think OD brings out the worst in many men though, the whole kid in a candy store idea comes to mind and my friends who have done it found it emotionally bruising and had a lot of encounters similar to what you describe- men all out for fun and quite forward early on, then disappearing as quickly as they arrived, presumably because some other possibility had presented itself.

All I can suggest is reading 'He's just not that into you' which really helped clarify for my friend how to read the behavioural signals, not what people say, as words are cheap and you need to look towards actions.

Fromparistoberlin73 · 04/06/2015 23:21

Online dating is brutal

And you sound low here are Flowers and Cake

This board is hardcore op ! Not a bad place but not --- soft !

springydaffs · 04/06/2015 23:24

I think you did get 'played' a bit bcs he strung you along, presumably so he wouldn't feel a shit for ending it after you'd had sex.

I also think the Rules rules are just common sense, nothing to do with equality just wiring.

Luck of the draw, op xx

niceupthedance · 05/06/2015 04:55

Op here. Just wanted to clarify I was not expecting a relationship in exchange for sex, that is bonkers. Just wanted to avoid the fuck and runners. Yes he was probably keeping in touch to be polite. I told him after a week or so that he shouldn't feel obligated as that would be embarrassing . No, no, don't be silly, that's not the case, was upset that I was dumping him etc. I have actually looked through the messages and he asks do you need anything and when are you free etc. (but then doesn't commit to a date) so it wasn't me hassling him. Ahhhhh for fuck sake. Why can't people just be honest? I always send a thanks but no thanks, even if it makes me look like a shit.

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niceupthedance · 05/06/2015 05:04

Oh and re the bad sex - first guy who disappeared, it was pretty crap. I still expect a nice to meet you and good luck type message afterwards. Is that wrong? (Of course crap sex man texted me two months later for repeat performance - that doesn't count!)

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