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Am I right to feel a bit guilty?

40 replies

BirdsOfFoo · 02/06/2015 22:40

Brief back story:
Been with DH (not married) for 11 years. Bit of a on off start but settled down, moved in had ds (7yo).
i moved into his flat to start - we hit financial trouble, couldn't afford to step up the ladder so eventually managed to get a HA flat and he sold his flat.
The money paid off debts and bought furniture/decorated new place.
No money left.

Roll on a few years and things have been fine , we have our ups and downs like any couple but muddled along...until Nov.

I wanted to go out for a reunion with some old friends - we had arranged to have dinner at someone's house. I asked if he would mind having ds, he kicked up a fuss and said no. I haven't been out on my own since having ds, not because of him but I have had confidence/anxiety problems.

I took ds with me in the end, had a great time and got home at 1pm.
Cue first major argument where he said he thought I had changed recently (I had, I wanted to be more sociable and not hide away) .
I realized that he didn't trust me after all this time and cracks started.

He slipped a disk in his neck and has been off work for months, just had his op and due to go back to work next week.
He has been off since Oct.
He has done nothing since then bar sit on the sofa watching netflix or playing on his phone, all my sympathy ran out months ago...in Jan I was put on anti-depressants by my doc.
His daily routine is: Get up at 1pm - sit on sofa - do the washing up - sit back down - bed 3-5am.
No school runs unless I need him to help me out , no cooking, barely any cleaning....
He might not be capable of running around the block but he was certainly able to do more than he did.

I have wanted out for months I think. I have grown apart from him.
We used to have a laugh, decent sex life, enjoy each others company but now none of that applies anymore.

I held off because he wasn't 'himself' - in pain, waiting for the op - not wanting to kick a man while hes down...

Today, shit kicked off - I want out.
We had a tiff and I just want him gone. I want to start again BUT I feel guilty.
He is older than me and gave up everything for our flat - the flat is in my name only, I am main carer for ds so I am assuming I have rights there. He has nothing.
Money is shit, he has nothing anyway as he's been off work. No where really for him to go (if hes desperate he has!)
I don't want this to carry on for much longer but I just feel awful for him...should I? Most people his age are settled with a bit of back up...

I am 27, still young enough to hit rock bottom(not far off I don't think tbh) and bounce back - it doesn't matter if I have nothing because I'm ok iykwim?

As it stands he went out earlier at some point and hasn't yet been back....

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Gorgonzolacherry · 02/06/2015 22:46

Go and see a solicitor. Find out your rights in expect of the property etc. then get all your ducks in a Rosl then make your decision once you have all the knowledge, you can't do anything until you have all this in place.

His routine sounds dire. No one is entitled to live like that. Particularly where they have a family to support. Maybe other posters will feel differently but I wonder whether forcing him to move and therefore get a job may actually be good for him. Anyway irrespective of that,nhis proble,s are not your fault and it is not your responsibility to make sure he has financial back up, that's his call. And he's fucked it up. You can never fix this for him, it has to come from him.

I'm so sorry and sending you strength. As I say, first stop see a solicitor and pronto.

QuiteLikely5 · 02/06/2015 22:46

Don't feel guilty.

You need a life. You didn't go out for seven years and when you finally wanted to look how he reacted!

Please do not let the fact he sold his flat bother you. These things happen.

He won't change. Let him go.

Good luck with your new life.

Gorgonzolacherry · 02/06/2015 22:46

Autocorrect.... His problems are not your fault.

Gorgonzolacherry · 02/06/2015 22:47

He might change. But nothing you do for him will change him. It has to come from him. People can change.

BirdsOfFoo · 02/06/2015 22:50

He has a job, been off sick thankfully they have kept it open for him!

I do wonder if he would be a better father as well to ds if we were separate as he wouldn't have a choice but to spend time with him - he is brilliant with him when he makes the effort but very rarely does at the moment.

I care very deeply for him , love him even as he is the father of my child and has never been a complete arsehole but I'm not in love with him anymore I don't think. :(

I know what I want just meed to do it now..gah!

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Balders74 · 02/06/2015 22:59

Hi Birds. My ex spent 4 years with a similar routine but without the washing up bit & not due to an injury just sheer laziness! He rarely helped out, we have 2 DC & was generally horrible to live with.

He is self employed(!!) but had never put in any effort to getting it going so I supported us. I lost all respect for him & when I stopped trying to keep our relationship together it quickly fell apart.

My point is that he had to fund somewhere to rent & actually get off his arse & put some effort into his business to make money. For the first time in his adult life he is having to look after himself. I felt incredibly guilty about that although it makes no sense. He kept on saying in was taking everything away from him but if he had listened to me on the numerous times I had told him to sort his shit out then it wouldn't have happened.

You are not responsible for him, he is an adult & he needs to look after himself. But he will put the guilt trip on you but you need to concentrate on what is good for you & your DS. It helped me to think about him being the male role model for my DC, which was awful & spurred me on.

Now that he hasn't got me enabling him he seems to have stepped up!

I hope this has helped Flowers

BirdsOfFoo · 02/06/2015 23:03

I hadn't even thought about a role model for ds and at the moment he isn't one :(

I know he is more than capable of taking care of himself, he lived on his own for 10 years before I moved in but Ive been a total mug I think....and I'm to soft Hmm

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Balders74 · 02/06/2015 23:10

I was too soft as well & it took me a year to get my head round actually telling him I wanted out.

My DD used to ask me why we were still together & DS used to ask why his Dad never did anything around the house, it was awful & it had to change.

Take your time & get your head in the right place so you can move forward. Once I told him I was not going to changed my mind although he tried lots of different approaches.

Good luck.

BirdsOfFoo · 02/06/2015 23:24

I think I am struggling to start off the conversation more than anything.

how the hell do you tell a partner of 11 years that you don't want to be with them anymore and you think they should move out?!?

He may be a lazy bastard but he has stood by me through a fair bit of shit...

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BirdsOfFoo · 03/06/2015 11:55

Shit hit the fan.

He's surprised somehow and refusing to leave until I pay his mum back the money I owe her.

He asked me what I thought he was going to do, if i was seeing someone else, told me I have ruined ds's family and I can be the one to tell him.

In full blown panic attack and tears now :(

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ArabellaStrange · 03/06/2015 12:05

He is lashing out. The things he have just said have very very little element of truth to them.
How much money do you owe his mother? And why is it you and not both of you?

BirdsOfFoo · 03/06/2015 12:09

£1800
Because it was for a vets bill for my horse...
My horse that he hates....

Tbh I think its fair enough - I will pay her back but I don't think he can use it as a excuse to stay.

We are done but i feel awful - shock that I have actually done it maybe?
I only have a smidge of worry that Ive done the wrong thing

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ArabellaStrange · 03/06/2015 12:19

Ending a relationship is always painful. How has he reacted when you have tried to tell him about changes he could make to improve things?
From what you have written your life will be vastly improved without him in it as your partner.

BirdsOfFoo · 03/06/2015 12:24

He's just got back, said Ive left him with nothing and nothing to lose.

Hes not going anywhere until I sell the horse and pay his mum back.

If I don't he will kill it he's rather end up in prison....

he has a nasty streak in him but I haven't seen it before...

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ArabellaStrange · 03/06/2015 12:29

He threatened to kill your horse? I do believe that comes under the heading of 'abusive behaviour'.

BirdsOfFoo · 03/06/2015 12:31

Sound like it - I can handle alot but he's pushing me...

My horse means the world to me - second to ds - he knows its the best way to hurt me.

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Summerbreezer · 03/06/2015 12:34

the flat is in my name only

the flat is in my name only

the flat is in my name only

He has until the weekend.

If he is not out by 4pm on Sunday, police, change locks, stuff in bin bags.

He is an emotionally abusive bully.

WhoNickedMyName · 03/06/2015 12:36

At this point I'd be calling the non-emergency police number and telling them...

I've split from my partner, he is refusing to leave the property. It's my property and he is not named on it and he has made threats to kill my horse.

I'd also contact his mum. Tell her you've decided to split, he's refusing to leave your property and is linking his refusal with the money you owe her. Make it clear to her that you'll pay back that money asap and as far as you're concerned the agreement about the money is nothing to do with him. Preferably by text or e-mail then you've got it in writing.

petalsandstars · 03/06/2015 12:37

Your debt to his mum is separate from his living situation. Any more threats- get police involved.

BirdsOfFoo · 03/06/2015 12:41

I don't want him here until sunday....I want him out now :(

FUCK!

I thought this was going to at least stay amicable but its not looking likely

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BirdsOfFoo · 03/06/2015 12:51

Now I'm getting 'Please think about this' 'whats going to happen with ds' all calm....

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QuiteLikely5 · 03/06/2015 12:59

Don't give in. If needs be tell him you need him to go so you can think about things. Once he is out let him no it's truly over.

Don't fall for his sob story.

QuiteLikely5 · 03/06/2015 12:59

Know *

WhoNickedMyName · 03/06/2015 13:38

be prepared that he'll switch between anger and crying/begging and seeming calm and reasonable.

BirdsOfFoo · 03/06/2015 15:45

still here.
still calm.

I'm knackered Sad

anyone have any idea what to do next? my brain stopped Sad

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