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So pissed off can't sleep

38 replies

Twocanplaythatgame · 06/04/2015 06:46

NC for this, think DH is reading!

Glad I'm not in work tomorrow because I've not slept and I'm sat here shaking and angry.

I'll try to keep it short ... Basically DH has sent for 2 new credit cards in the space of a few months. It's out of character but he's done it secretly, I've just found out by chance. Things have been strained for a while but we rub along ok most of the time.

He's not always been honest with me, he's hid things, lied to me and defended himself passionately when found out. Most of the time blaming me for anything he's done. He's previously had an EA many years ago that we managed to get through and all I ever wanted from him after that was total honesty but he's failed on many occasion.

We've had a rocky few months, I suspected he was lying and hiding something from me and when I questioned him he turned it around on me and accused me of being paranoid and trying to control him. I felt in my heart something just wasn't right so I asked if I could check his phone. He went ballistic and threatened to leave which made me feel even more suspicious. Eventually he threw his phone at me and sat staring at me. Once he'd given me his phone I felt more relieved and was happy to give it back without checking but his actions and demeanour stirred something inside me.

After a quick check through the call and message history I was satisfied I was in the wrong and apologised for my behaviour and was promising to stop being so ridiculous and get some help. He became really shifty and kept snatching for his phone back, hovering over me, going on about how he couldn't carry on like this anymore and it felt really bizarre but I couldn't put my finger on why. I opened his phone again and opened the browser history, he swore blind he'd never used his phone to go online, but there it was! Search after search, one pornographic picture after another.

I felt so low, so unattractive, so unloved, I broke down and he said it was normal and I was being stupid and all men do it. I then discovered he was pleasuring himself whilst I was in the house, he'd go to the bathroom or up to bed while I was still busy downstairs, surf on his phone and arouse himself but there was never any sex or intimacy between us. He blamed me and accussed me of being unapproachable which only made matters worse :-(

He's constantly on his iPad, we rarely speak, he's changed all his passwords to his email accounts and has 2 new credit cards and changed all his banking and phone bill to online, oh and never ever leaves his phone unattended and is permanently put on charge by the side of him each night.

So, this evening my suspicion as become uncontrollable again and when he's gone up to bed I've checked his online browsing history on his iPad. All of which has been cleared. I then checked mobile data and found he'd been checking mumsnet, been surfing online gambling sites, a pay per view porn site and another forum were the EA started many years ago.

So, what the fook do I do now? I know I can't just ask, he'll deny it as he as done in the past. He won't hand over his phone for me to check, he'll hit the wall sideways if I outright accuse him and throw it all back at me. I will not LTB, I will not leave my home and have my DC's affected by this. So how the hell do I handle it?

Sorry this is longer than I thought it would be, thank you for reading if you're still here x

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Squeegle · 06/04/2015 06:49

Hmm.... Doesn't sound like you have much keeping you together. Why would you want to stay with him?

Squeegle · 06/04/2015 06:50

Sorry, just saw you have DCs, but even so, surely this kind of relationship is not good for them?

HellKitty · 06/04/2015 06:54

Your DCs will be affected by this, the atmosphere must be awful?

FishWithABicycle · 06/04/2015 06:57

Certainly don't leave your home just like that, but clearly this relationship is either dead or dying. Either you split up (and he leaves) or you start couples counselling and try to see if the relationship can be resuscitated. Both choices will be difficult and painful (there's also the option of turning a blind eye, which is also painful but I don't recommend that) - there is no pleasant option, whichever path you choose will be unpleasant, but you have to choose one of them.

paxtecum · 06/04/2015 07:50

Don't dismiss splitting up.

Presumably your DH is building up credit card debt on porn and gambling.

Do you rent or have a mortgage?
Do you have lots of spare money every month?

If money is tight, then his credit card debts will spiral out of control.

If you have a mortgage, be very careful that you don't end up in arrears.

Twocanplaythatgame · 06/04/2015 07:53

DC's are thankfully not aware of any of DH's behaviour but even so I can't cope with these new findings. It took me a long time to get over past EA, even that was only discovered by me by chance otherwise who knows how long or how far it would have gone?

I can't stay with him this time if this is all true, I'm just not prepared to up and leave my home and belongings when I'm not in the wrong. I just don't know how to handle it, what if anything to say. He won't just leave, he's refused in the past!

What about my bloody job? I can't believe he would turn my life upside down all over again ... Bastard!!

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Twocanplaythatgame · 06/04/2015 07:58

Our home is rented, I work, DH occasionally helps his DB out at work but on the whole he's a FT carer for DD. He controls the finances and holds the bank card, does the shopping and all bills are paid by DD from my account. His money is his, my money is ours! Never bothered me really but now it's pissing me off the more I'm sat here thinking!

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Nolim · 06/04/2015 08:01

Agree with fish. Either get coounselling or get out.

piggychops · 06/04/2015 08:02

Don't you have direct control over what you earn? If it's going into a joint account you can access everything through internet banking, with a separate login to your DH.

piggychops · 06/04/2015 08:04

You also should have a bank card each for a jt acc

category1 · 06/04/2015 08:07

Order yourself another bank card. Take control of your account.

FloristryCommission · 06/04/2015 08:07

First off I think you need legal advice, so off to a solicitor who does Family Law to see what you're entitled to.
I think you need to check about him being FT carer for your DD as he may end up with residency. This might mean you need to sort out childcare provision so he can't do that.

EhricLovesTheBhrothers · 06/04/2015 08:16

I think you should go and see a lawyer and start making plans to get him out legally.

Twocanplaythatgame · 06/04/2015 08:19

Sorry no it's not a joint account, the account is in my name but DH just has the card for it, the bills all get paid from the account and I'm not a spender. It just seemed easier to let DH have the card to use for shopping, fuel etc. I occasionally check my online account to make sure there's suffient money in for regular DD payments and have noticed more being spent on food shopping but as DH says "foods not cheap ya know".

I've always classed money coming in as 'ours' to feed the family, pay bills etc etc. We previously shared carer duties, we have an older DS on the autistic spectrum too but he's over 18 now.

It was easier for me to get back into employment than it was for DH so we made the decision for me to work. I don't have a problem who works or who brings in the wages but I do care if it's being spent on porn and/or gambling.

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FloristryCommission · 06/04/2015 08:26

Well take the control back by taking the card off him! In an ideal world he'd have the card but it's not ideal is it?

At the moment, he's got access to your account and could possibly be spending it on porn. That needs to be stopped ASAP.

nozzz · 06/04/2015 08:34

Yes, there's no reason to give up control of your own account.

Twocanplaythatgame · 06/04/2015 08:36

I need to work out how in the world I can broach this and get to the bottom of it. I can't go through another ordeal of him arguing the toss calling me paranoid and turning everything I say around and making me the culprit. I'm tired of it, I'm tired of his lies, I'm tired of his false promises.

I can already predict his speech on how all this is my fault and how I've NEVER trusted him :-/

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nozzz · 06/04/2015 08:38

Why do you need to get to the bottom of it? The situation sounds terrible regardless.

FloristryCommission · 06/04/2015 08:39

Instead if him using your account, could you transfer enough money for shopping/whatever he has for spends into his own account so he's not using yours?

sweetmuffins · 06/04/2015 08:46

"His money is his, my money is ours"? Er, that's not right.
Something is seriously amiss here. It seems to me it's time to call it a day for your relationship. He's the one to blame for his erratic behaviour. I don't know how you can stand it.

PandorasToyBox · 06/04/2015 08:48

Cut off his tantrum by saying no dh I don't trust you, it is over. I don't love you, I am not paranoid, you are however are a lying sack of shite.

And just ignore his ravings, or put your fingers in your ears and go lalala can't hear you

He will soon stop once he realises that you are not listening to his crap any more.

mummytime · 06/04/2015 08:56

Start by reporting your bank card missing, if he won't give it back. There is no reason for another person to ever use your bank card. If they do and something goes wrong (eg. A shop makes a mistake or card fraud) you may not be covered as you haven't stuck to the terms and conditions.

Have a joint account for joint money.

Vivacia · 06/04/2015 10:02

I'd be careful with the card, it's fraud to let someone else use your bank card.

Get legal advice OP.

Janebob0 · 06/04/2015 11:20

Go and see a lawyer. Set everything up financially for leaving him. Then drop the bombshell. He sounds like an absolute shit. You, on the other hand, sound gorgeous xxxx

tribpot · 06/04/2015 11:34

Yep, I would at minimum say you've realised it breaks the Ts and Cs of the card account for him to know your PIN, so you're converting the account to a joint one.

Is the money actually all being spent on food shopping or is he getting cashback out at the same time? I agree, food shopping isn't cheap but this is also an excellent way to hide additional spending.

How has he managed to get two credit cards with no income? How's he going to pay the balance on them?