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So pissed off can't sleep

38 replies

Twocanplaythatgame · 06/04/2015 06:46

NC for this, think DH is reading!

Glad I'm not in work tomorrow because I've not slept and I'm sat here shaking and angry.

I'll try to keep it short ... Basically DH has sent for 2 new credit cards in the space of a few months. It's out of character but he's done it secretly, I've just found out by chance. Things have been strained for a while but we rub along ok most of the time.

He's not always been honest with me, he's hid things, lied to me and defended himself passionately when found out. Most of the time blaming me for anything he's done. He's previously had an EA many years ago that we managed to get through and all I ever wanted from him after that was total honesty but he's failed on many occasion.

We've had a rocky few months, I suspected he was lying and hiding something from me and when I questioned him he turned it around on me and accused me of being paranoid and trying to control him. I felt in my heart something just wasn't right so I asked if I could check his phone. He went ballistic and threatened to leave which made me feel even more suspicious. Eventually he threw his phone at me and sat staring at me. Once he'd given me his phone I felt more relieved and was happy to give it back without checking but his actions and demeanour stirred something inside me.

After a quick check through the call and message history I was satisfied I was in the wrong and apologised for my behaviour and was promising to stop being so ridiculous and get some help. He became really shifty and kept snatching for his phone back, hovering over me, going on about how he couldn't carry on like this anymore and it felt really bizarre but I couldn't put my finger on why. I opened his phone again and opened the browser history, he swore blind he'd never used his phone to go online, but there it was! Search after search, one pornographic picture after another.

I felt so low, so unattractive, so unloved, I broke down and he said it was normal and I was being stupid and all men do it. I then discovered he was pleasuring himself whilst I was in the house, he'd go to the bathroom or up to bed while I was still busy downstairs, surf on his phone and arouse himself but there was never any sex or intimacy between us. He blamed me and accussed me of being unapproachable which only made matters worse :-(

He's constantly on his iPad, we rarely speak, he's changed all his passwords to his email accounts and has 2 new credit cards and changed all his banking and phone bill to online, oh and never ever leaves his phone unattended and is permanently put on charge by the side of him each night.

So, this evening my suspicion as become uncontrollable again and when he's gone up to bed I've checked his online browsing history on his iPad. All of which has been cleared. I then checked mobile data and found he'd been checking mumsnet, been surfing online gambling sites, a pay per view porn site and another forum were the EA started many years ago.

So, what the fook do I do now? I know I can't just ask, he'll deny it as he as done in the past. He won't hand over his phone for me to check, he'll hit the wall sideways if I outright accuse him and throw it all back at me. I will not LTB, I will not leave my home and have my DC's affected by this. So how the hell do I handle it?

Sorry this is longer than I thought it would be, thank you for reading if you're still here x

OP posts:
FloristryCommission · 06/04/2015 11:53

That's a good point about obtaining credit cards without an income.

AnyFucker · 06/04/2015 12:08

Not much to say really if you would never end your relationship

you have shackled yourself to an untrustworthy liar

and the kids know something isn't right....They see an anxious, doubt ridden woman as their mother and a father who does what the fuck he likes with no consequences

the "shackles" however are purely under your control, should you wish to throw them off

Isetan · 06/04/2015 12:42

You're asking the wrong questions. Questions that you'll never never get a satisfactory, let alone a honest reply to. You should be asking 'why the fuck do I let him treat me this way?' and the good nees is, only you can answer that one.

Oh and your kidd might not see the body of your decaying marriage but they can certainly smell the rot. Worse still, your dysfunctional relationship is their primary relationship role model.

Your H treats you with contempt because he's a dick and because you let him. As you're the one whose unhappy with the status quo, the onus is on you to change it. Find out your rights, get credit reports etc. Be proactive with your energies and not reactive (snooping when you know he's up to no good is pointless).

I don't know how you got here but continuing to surrender power to someone who obviously doesn't give a shit is mad.

Dosydoly · 06/04/2015 13:19

Anyfucker she didn't say she would never end her relationship she said she wasn't prepared to leave her home.

Vivacia · 06/04/2015 13:26

Dosy the OP says, "I will not LTB".

Vivacia · 06/04/2015 13:26

Ah, I see what you're saying Dosy now.

AnyFucker · 06/04/2015 13:31

The outcome is the same

she leaves or he leaves

but she will have to make that decision because it is unlikely he will and they both know it

so nothing changes

tribpot · 06/04/2015 13:32

OP is not the children's primary carer - which means 'LTB' may indeed mean her having to leave the house (and the children).

Dosydoly · 06/04/2015 14:22

Well it does, she says she won't stay with him but she won't leave her home, she's looking for advice on what to do next not pontificating from you.

Dosydoly · 06/04/2015 14:27

Anyway back to the OP, I think the best thing you can do is see a solicitor first off and get some practical advice on how to protect yourself and your children.

Jan45 · 06/04/2015 17:20

Sorry OP you already have all the evidence which shows you he is a liar, he treats you like shit and is paying for online sex, sorry but what else is there to discover, you are worried he will hit the roof over you finding out, seriously wise up, he's already got form so you are hardly being OTT, you have felt suspicious for a long time, he thought he was getting away with it and has now been caught out, no doubt it will all be your fault, which is disgusting, he has control over himself, he has shat all over the relationship, it's already dead in the water I'm afraid, or carry on as you have been with his seedy side line whilst you pretend it is not happening.

You don't have to leave your home but you sure as hell should get him to leave, for good.

Goodbetterbest · 06/04/2015 17:26

Yeh, my XH told me the same when he fucked prostitutes: all men do it, I should grow up, join the real world blah blah blah. You start to question whether it's true and they fuck with your head.

Is this how you want your husband to behave?

Is this the role model you want for your DCs?

Goodbetterbest · 06/04/2015 17:40

As someone who has been through similar and led that life of doubt and suspicion for years and years, I can honestly say that ending the marriage is the greatest feeling. OP, I echo what others have said. Go to the solicitors and take the first step.

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