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Long and a bit of a repeat, but could really, really do with advice please :(

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whatisyournameplease · 25/03/2015 13:49

I have NC and posters may recognise me from previous posts - but please don't comment with 'changing your name won't get a different response' - I have done so as I really want to keep my identity from RL private.

I met DP 4 years ago. We lived togehter after 8 months, for what was a wonderful nearly 2 years. We moved apart due to work, despite the fact we could have lived in the middle, my DP didn't want to have to have a 40 minute commute to work compared with what was his current 20 minute one. When we moved in, we always knew I would have to move due to work for a temporarly 20 month time frame. We discussed it and I made it clear if we moved in I would want us to live in the middle when my job started. He was all for it throughout the duration of us living together, but when it came to it, right at the last minute (ie the day before we were going to sign on a tenancy), he changed his mind. I later realised he had told his friends and family that he had no intention of moving to the middle of our works, at least a week beforehand. He also told his parents that I was being unfair on him etc etc, and they actually thought I had made him go and view houses...when in actual fatc he had volunteered to view many after work when I was working late and sent me photos! The whole thing broke me, I was so upset, and...what was my DP's reaction? To say he needed space. So he had 2 weeks of not seeing me, right when I had started my new job and could have really done with some support. He even didn't speak to me over one weekend, didn't answer texts, nothing. I'm still not 100% past all this - it hurts to think about it. That was a few months back, and since then, he has been in and out of the UK with work, so I have seen him very little, maybe 3 weeks on, 3 off, for example. We never moved to the middle. Just to add to the mix, in this time frame, his mother asked to move in with him...she is extremely nasty about me and has said in the past that she doesn't want me there when my DP visits - she would rather just see him. They have what I feel to be an odd relationship - he had cried once when she fell out with her friend (oshe loses friends on a regular basis). She can also be manipulative with DP - telling him what other sons have done for their mothers, with a clear 'point' to it. She is divorced. Anyway, that's just an added extra.

Things were getting better for a while - DP seemed to have made an effort to stop MIL from being negative about our relationship and to accept us. We would go out when he visited and he was quite generous with money (not that he struggles for it). It got to the point where he decided that yes, it was right for us to move to the middle and that he regretted not having done so at the time, and 'can only apologise.' We started looking at places. 2 weeks later, he announces he is moving to New Zealand for 6 months and he is happy about it. He has offered to pay rent for me here so we can go ahead with gettind 'our place' and starting afresh. He has offered to give me use of his car and he will still make the monthly payments. He has said he will pay for me to fly out and he will come back. He says he wants it to work. I feel utterly broken and exhausted after all that has happened. I feel I can't trust him as he always said he wouldnt go to New Zealand for more than a month. He has told me he wants to marry me (says this regularly, but no ring..., just words), says he loves me and is committed, and says when he is back we will buy somewhere (it coincides with me finishing my 20 month working away).

I have found the whole thing really difficult to accept. I feel so lost and his reaction so far this week has been to pretty much say 'deal with it.' I know that is what I have to do, but why isn;t he making it any easier? How do I even knoe he will want to come back after 10 months? His track record of being genuine isn't exactly great. I have of course told him al lthi s- to which he says I have to believe him. If it is going to work I need to be positive and happy etc, and at the moment I am a mess. Is this just an unlucky streak and should I forgive the past and try again with this huge challenge to trust his intentions? Please help.

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pinkfrocks · 25/03/2015 16:40

Oh and she is an expert is she? Why is she advising an adult son anyway- and why does he listen?

Look- a relationship is best when both people meet half way and put 50-50 into it. Okay sometimes it might be 55-45 or even 40-60.
But you have put in more than your share - and he's not put in very much at all.

You can't make someone love you or stay with you by being nice, loving and loyal if they don't want you. That is a very sad but true fact. You need to face up to this.

whatisyournameplease · 25/03/2015 16:41

my DP would tell me he doesnt listen to her. i've asked him and he says he ignores it.

just seems funny how he acts exactly like her and he doesnt even see it :(

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DaisyChain87 · 25/03/2015 16:46

The best bit of advice I was ever given about a relationship: If it's exhausting you NOW, how tired do you think you'll feel in 5 years? 10 years? 20 years? How exhausted would you feel whilst dealing with a screaming baby, a partner who doesn't support you, and a disrespectful MIL?

The answer for this ultimately has to come from you. The only evidence that you can go on is his past behavior. He seems erratic to say the least, you head is understandably all over the place. I can't make this decision for you, but I would urge you to steer clear of tying yourself to him financially. It's not worth the risk.

pinkfrocks · 25/03/2015 16:47

Maybe start calling him your ex boyfriend from now? he hasn't been your 'P' for as long as you have lived apart.

Cherryapple1 · 25/03/2015 16:56

He is only going to worse as he gets older. And his mother will be more demanding. You want to thank your lucky stars you haven't got children with this man. What kind of merry hell would that be. And his old trout of his mother butting in too. You need to run as fast as you can away from him - don't look back.

Allalonenow · 25/03/2015 17:05

His move to NZ is your "Get Out Of This Mess Free" card OP.

Let him go, and wave him a cheery goodbye, get this lying, manipulative, untrustworthy man out of your life.
Don't get financially involved with him, especially not a joint bank account.

You are very young, you have many years ahead of you when you will be happy and loved, with no toxic Mother in Law looming over your life.

Let him go, start to focus on what you want to do with your own life, develop your career, strengthen your friendships, and most importantly start to have fun and enjoy life.

tribpot · 25/03/2015 17:38

Did you ever wonder why the relationship was so much work? Was your parents' relationship like this, with one flogging themselves to try to please the other?

I wouldn't say you sound clingy - you've been remarkably tolerant of his prolonged absences and general shitness - but you are very extremely invested in the relationship. It's time to take stock of the sunk costs fallacy - you need to write this investment off.

newstart15 · 25/03/2015 18:33

Happas's post is excellent.This is about him keeping options open.Giving at Valentines is a small give in the scheme of life.If his Mum is a bit of a nightmare now it will only get 100x times worse.That is something I have painfully learnt in life.My dh's mum was awful to him but I assumed she would get better if she was treated well, included in our life etc.The behaviour nevered improved and I have had to learn that you have to accept some people are toxic/damaged and you cant heal them with gifts or kindness.

Your partner reminds me of a friend I knew.He dated a girl, moved in with her but never quite committed to her, including moving away for work and they had a long distance relationship for a while.She was much keener than him which was clear from the outside.He eventually left her in her 30's and immediately married the new woman.You are still so young and at the ideal age to meet another person.When you do it will be clear to you that your current partner isn't committed.

HairyHandedFucker · 25/03/2015 19:47

He doesn't compromise. Which is fine, if you want to be young, free and single, which I think he does, just with you as a back up.

I wouldn't waste any more of your twenties on this. If it is meant to be, he will come back and you can pick up again - maybe he will have changed. Or, maybe you will have changed, and you will see that there are plenty more fish in the sea.

I married my DH at 35, I am very glad I didn't settle for anyone in my late 20s.
You will look back and wonder why you wasted so much time on this guy.

magoria · 25/03/2015 20:36

Can you imagine in a few years with a kid or two when he tells you one thing, acts like he is doing that when he is in fact completely bitching about it to his family and then just doesn't do it dropping you and your kids in the shit.

You will be the one to take any financial hit if you have a family with this man.

Your life would be a misery. One betrayal and disappointment after another.

I agree with others treat this as a get out of jail. Cut all communication. Deal with your broken heart while he is away and move on.

Oh and move CLOSER to your work now you don't have to accomodate him.

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