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marriage a joke!?

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ScrumbleBee · 13/03/2015 07:42

My husband and I have been married for 2 years, together 5. I'll start at the beginning!

Before we got engaged he was deleting spam emails and came across one from a webcam site saying account info. He said it was spam so I gave him the benefit of the doubt.

About 5 months into our marriage, I was in bed dealing with our 8 week old baby and the TV was suspiciously loud, so went downstairs. He shut the laptop so quick, and said the TV was faulty! When he left the next morning to get his dad, I checked. He had been on the same website that he said was spam all that time ago. He had been sending personal messages to girls saying that he loved them and he would be happy if he could wake up next to them every day! We argued, he promised never to do it again.

I then noticed him spending a lot of time on his phone. Apparently messaging a lady friend he had dated years before but apparently never got serious. They would message first thing in the am and last thing at night, signing off as I love you with lots of kisses. Told him I was not happy with him doing this and he ignored me and continued. I eventually broke down and told him I was not happy with this and he laughed at me, saying it was nothing. He eventually told her to do one, showing me. But, he could still be messaging her! This went on for a good 4 years of our relationship. Called her a sl@g to see how he would react and he hit the roof.

Then, I see he has downloaded a load of apps on his phone that delete messages after being received. Says that he shares pictures with his mates.

I also came across a message he sent to a woman asking if he could send her his favourite tshirt and if she could take provocative pictures and return them!! Again the usual of 'I'd be the happiest man if I could wake up next to you every day'. Confronted him and he said it meant nothing. He wanted to make himself feel better. He has never met them in person.

He also said that he loves me, but he's not in love with me. next thing, he's sending messages to me saying how much he loves me.

He makes my skin crawl. He's almost 30 and acting in this way!

He won't give me access to money, says I have to ask when I want something. Got a 8k bonus, gave me 300 of it and blew the rest on God knows what! Can't tell me. Says I'm lucky he baths his daughter. He has brought up separation a few times but when I agree he backtracks saying I'm not taking his kids away.

I'm at a loss as to what to do. He says he wants to make it work. Why should I bother. I don't trust him. I don't want to be near him. I also feel like the bad person if I was to leave. We have 2 kids now, 2 and 6 months.

Any advice appreciated x

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mumpossible · 13/03/2015 07:51

You sound really unhappy. With good reason. He seems to have little respect for the relationship. I think you need to focus on what you need, what would make you happy.
I could not stay in a relationship like that. Be strong. You deserve much much more than this

offside · 13/03/2015 07:52

I've not really got any advice and I don't usually post on these threads for that reason but this has infuriated! How dare he treat you like that. Please leave this "man". He will never learn and he is abusing you in all kinds of manners. You do not want your DD seeing this as an example of how women should be treated.

I am sure someone with advice will be along soon!

CogitoErgoSometimes · 13/03/2015 07:53

I think you have make up your own mind whether you want to carry on making excuses and turning a blind eye or whether you've had enough. He seems to have lied and cheated pretty much from Day 1 & he's selfish and lazy into the bargain. The money situation is totally insulting.... fix that straight away. You could throw a rock into a crowd and find a better partner.

I suggest you get some legal advice and practical advice before you do anything. Find out your rights and responsibilities in the event of a divorce, confide in someone you trust and build up a picture of how life would look if you were independent. Don't guess or make assumptions... get information.

Then talk to him about the future. You'll feel stronger if you are well prepared and he will be forced to take you seriously if he can see you've done your homework. Whether you end up splitting or trying to work something out, don't compromise

Charlie97 · 13/03/2015 08:01

I have never said this before but LTB!

He sound utterly vile!

You and your children deserve much better!

currentnameinuse · 13/03/2015 08:13

Why on earth should you put up with his unfaithfulness? That coupled with financial abuse. And he think she is doing you a favour bathing your daughter. You need a lawyer and fast. Please value yourself and don't waste another moment on this person.

GoatsDoRoam · 13/03/2015 08:41

How many times do you have to discover him philandering before you will have had enough?

This is him. It's who he is. You've caught him at it many times, he's made empty promises many times. If you stay married to him, you will have 50-60 more years of this misery.

He's not going to change (he's given you ample proof of that over the past few years).

Do you want to spend the rest of your life like this?

dominogocatgo · 13/03/2015 09:12

Sounds like he has no respect for you whatsoever. Do you have anyone in RL who you can confide in ?

pocketsaviour · 13/03/2015 09:27

Oh Scrumble, this is just awful. He very clearly isn't going to change his ways. You have married a man who is a serial philanderer. It might be possible to turn a blind eye to him sending nude pics or using webcam sites, but you don't send texts to someone every day saying "I love you" unless you're physically meeting them, IME.

Then there's the issue that he is treating you like a child re the finances. Hello? the 1960s called, they want their attitudes back Hmm

I strongly suggest seeing a solicitor (or several) for an initial free consultation and find out how the land lies in the event of a divorce. As you are married you have more protection under law than if you were just co-habiting, so that's good news.

Do you have supportive family or close friends that you could talk this over with?

mumpossible · 13/03/2015 09:59

You have had lots of really good advice so far. I am not sure why, but I have not been able to get your story out of my head. I want to give a virtual hug and tell you that you are worth so much more than this.
You deserve someone who respects you and loves you. Your husband sounds like a real shit. Please take a long hard look in the mirror and tell yourself that you deserve better.

Then get advice on the practicalities (cogito gave good advice there)and make a clear plan of how to get put of this marriage.
If you are not ready to leave, and want to give him yet another a chance. It has to be really leave that it is his final chance. Then my suggestion is that you demand respect from him. I would tell him (and yourself) that this is not ok. You will not be treated like this, so he can shape up or fuck off. And mean it!!
And mean it!

But if I were you I would be following advice so far and valuing yourself enough to say this relationship is over.

mumpossible · 13/03/2015 09:59

Clear not leave, sorry

LastOneDancing · 13/03/2015 11:33

He says he wants to make it work - its another lie.

He lies, he cheats, he takes your money. He doesnt want to change and make you happy, he wants yo keep the relationship going because he likes the way things are, doing whatever the fuck he likes.

Imagine not having to worry what he's doing, imagine getting your 8k bonus and spending it all on you and your babies, imagine having a partner who doesn't make your skin crawl, but makes you smile and feel loved. You can have all of those things but you have to do a very hard & scary thing first and finish it.

ScrumbleBee · 24/03/2015 21:27

Thanks for all the advice. Today he admitted that being single is his worst nightmare as everyone will see him as a failure and he would be a failure. He has been away with work and I joked that I could easily be a single parent, without having to worry about his rubbish. He said I couldn't leave and gave the above as a reason, and at the end said, and yeah, I love you too.

I feel like I keep making my mind up to leave but I'm too scared. Sad really lol.

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pocketsaviour · 24/03/2015 21:29

Today he admitted that being single is his worst nightmare as everyone will see him as a failure

Well then maybe he should work a bit bloody harder at being married ??

So basically his reason for why you should stay is that he'd be embarrassed if you went. Tough shit, Mr Snapchat Masturbator.

LadyBlaBlah · 24/03/2015 21:46

Oh scrumble - why do you think this scumbag is anywhere near what a husband should be?

He really is the pits.

You are married to him, so it is difficult to extract yourself but it also gives you some financial protection. What is your house situation? Owned or rented?

You will start to have an actual life away from this loser. This is not what life is. You are risking your own mental health right now - I'd be surprised if a life of anxiety and depression isn't on the cards for you as he systematically destroys your self-worth.

Divorce. Divorce. Divorce. This is exactly what it was invented for.

ScrumbleBee · 24/03/2015 22:03

He's in the army so we don't own a house. We are being posted in just over 2 weeks so I don't really have a lot of time to decide. I'm probably already depressed. I try do as little as possible, can't be bothered with anything. Such a bad mum as I should be enjoying spending time with my kids but I just count down the hours until they are in bed :-( I feel guilty because these kids deserve better than what I can give them

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ImperialBlether · 24/03/2015 22:05

There is a whole new life just waiting for you to grab it. It's a life where you can be in charge of your own finances (which will be much better than they are now) and where you don't have to live with an incontinent unfaithful dog. He's repulsive, he really is.

sosix · 24/03/2015 22:20

Ltb really

GlitteryLipgloss1 · 24/03/2015 22:57

Scrumble

You are allowed to leave you know. He cannot make you stay in a loveless marriage. He is acting so selfishly.

Do you have anywhere else to go with your children and stay for a few days. Or even a few weeks?

Are you in touch with your family? Do they know what's gone on?

Would he consider counselling?

Keep posting and talking to us.
Thanks

GlitteryLipgloss1 · 24/03/2015 22:58

Your last sentence should read

Myself and our children deserve more than what he is currently giving us.

lottiesatitagain · 24/03/2015 23:12

I would not stay another minute with this man. Not one. Regardless of the home situation.

He (the cheat) has said he is not in love you with you but will kindly stick with you because he doesn't want to feel like a failure. Wow you must feel wonderful after that reaassurance.

You need to leave this man and soon before he drags you down even more. You and your children deserve to be happy. your children can't change this...so you must.

LadyBlaBlah · 25/03/2015 15:26

2 weeks is a perfect time to just quit this shit.

Think you are right, depression is creeping up on you.

Please save yourself and your dcs.

See if you can find a house/ flat. What's the housing like in your area?
Can you make an appointment with the CAB to see what benefits you will be entitled to?
You certainly won't starve and you won't be homeless.
In fact you'll find some peace and independence.

Don't let this loser beat you down.

Jan45 · 25/03/2015 17:04

Stop letting this sleaze of a man bring you down then, he's a creep of the highest order, he won't ever give you a normal relationship, this is how he is, give yourself and children a chance of peace and happiness and get rid, for goodness sake, unless you are a glutton for punishment I can't think of one single reason why you would even want to be with him.

DemelzaandRoss · 25/03/2015 17:08

What Jan has said, get rid ASAP.

Patchworkpatty · 25/03/2015 17:22

I have never said this before but your post really got me. LTB really, I mean it. How dare he ride roughshod over your feelings and marriage. He is an entitled git who is in for a very nasty shock. gather up all the paperwork you can find (not forgetting the very nice military pension details and bonuses etc) and head for your nearest lawyer. See how superior he feels when a judge orders him pay over half of everything he's 'earned'. (because of course, you have contributed nothing have you Angry ?)

deste · 25/03/2015 18:09

If you are being posted in two weeks time, get all yours things ready packed and then when the time comes don't go with him. Make arrangements to go elsewhere. The timing is perfect I would say. Don't stay with him.