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need help! please. husband is a liar.

44 replies

sandymoon101 · 04/03/2015 21:35

So I just got married in September of last year, we had been dating for 2 years, he was a bad boy he would drink and smoke he stopped doing so even going to rehab clinic to stop so that I would continue to date him, so now that we are married I find he has lied to me he had a set back apparently and is now smoking I do not know how much because he is a liar and I found this out smelling it on his breath when kissing I confronted him and he finally told me he was smoking again I asked him how much and he said he would only do it once in a while from cigarettes his co- workers would offer him but that he would never purchase them on his own because he did not want to hurt me and blah blah blah but I found he had asked his mom for some money and I asked him what the money was for he said it was for some pipes to fix the plumbing in the laundry I asked him if he was going to do it that day? and he said he was too tired he was gonna go straight to bed I asked if he was hungry he said no, so since this is not the first time that he lies to me I went on a hunt for the pipes as soon as he fell asleep in his car I found fast food containers meaning he had lied to me about not being hungry he could have said I already ate, and then 2 packets cigarettes already opened and used each originally contained 14 but in between both there was a 14 this worries me because it was Monday he had been with me all day Sunday and we had used his car and those packets where not there nor in side the home that I know of so this means he hid them really good or that is how much he smoked on one day when I confronted him he did not say a word, with in these months he has come home with alcohol breath and tells me he just had a beer and that is it but since he is obviously a liar I do not believe him on top of that I cought him watching porn being that in bed he cant hold his erection he says it is due to past alcohol and cigarette use but I do not know if true, last night was just the last of it and I told him we should separate because I dont trust him hes a liar and if he lies now he will lie the rest of our lives he says he will change but i dont believe him obviously the thing is we havent even been married 6 months Im afraid of what people will think :(

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ohmychrist · 04/03/2015 21:38

Is a drink and a cigarette or two such a dramatic problem?

sandymoon101 · 04/03/2015 21:39

forgot to add no pipes found laundry has not been fixed so that too was a lie.

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sandymoon101 · 04/03/2015 21:40

it is the liesssssss

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MrsRonBurgundy · 04/03/2015 21:43

Is he drinking to unusual or dangerous levels, or has he in the past? If not, why is him having a drink such an issue?
The smoking I can understand you may not like but surely he's an adult and can make the choice himself? You're within your rights to say you won't be showering him with kisses if you don't like the smell but is it seriously huge issue for you?

The porn I understand but have you had a conversation and told him
Your concerns about this in the past?

flatbellyfella · 04/03/2015 21:49

I have to agree, it's not a good start to your marriage .

sandymoon101 · 04/03/2015 21:53

Yes I have tried to talk him about it and he just comes up with more lies like the porn he says an old classmate from school had told him about a teacher of theirs that had put a porn video on a website and he was just looking for it out of curiosity - now come one....

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GoatsDoRoam · 04/03/2015 22:01

So:

  • he smokes
  • watches porn
  • borrows money
  • lies to you about all of the above
  • and your sex life is poor

Honesty and communication are the bedrocks of any good relationship. If he knows he intends to smoke and drink and use porn, and that you dislike these things, he has the choice whether to be honest about it, or lie.

Whatever he or anyone else may think about your limits and opinions on this will vary they are your limits, and if he doesn't want to be bound by them, he can be upfront about this.

You are right to be upset about lack of honesty in your marriage.

Would he be open to a frank conversation about this?

sandymoon101 · 04/03/2015 22:07

we have had a couple and he has said he will change but he continues to do those things to lie to me... so I do not think he loves me enough to change :( I do not see any other option I can not live with a liar, let alone think of having kids with this man I do not trust....

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Jaded2004 · 04/03/2015 22:25

Various points to make here. You say he's been to rehab? I'm assuming for his drinking and not smoking? If he's an alcoholic and is/was in recovery then him having even one drink is bad and I can see your point.
As far as smoking goes, he's a grown man and if he wants to poison his body with fags then that's his choice! (I choose to smoke, I know the risks, it stinks and all that but I'm an adult and I'll do it until I'm ready to give up again regardless of what anyone has to say about it)
The sex things isn't a good sign.
Basically it comes down to him lying to you. He has lied, he will do it again and you need to decide whether or not that is something you can live with. My ex is/was a liar, he lied about everything all the time. I gave him chance after chance, support, understanding and love but it wasn't enough and it ended our marriage. He is now inflicting this on someone else who has given him chances, love, support and now she thinks he's honest with her... Has he learned his lesson? No he hasn't he is still lying to her, he will put her through years of misery as he did me and others before and during me. You don't have to live like that the choice is yours but believe me it's a very very rare man or woman that can put up with no trust in their relationship.

GiddyOnZackHunt · 04/03/2015 22:33

I found living with a liar to be impossible.

If you are a control freak then a liar will lie more though. It doesn't excuse the lies but it might mean you're both exacerbating the situation.

GoatsDoRoam · 04/03/2015 22:33

I do not think he loves me enough to change

It's never a good idea to want your partner to change. And it is very difficult if not impossible for people to change themselves.

Ideally, therefore, he would have been honest that, whatever your feelings on alcohol and porn and cigarettes, he liked them and planned to continue using them. And then you, ideally, would have had all the information you needed to decide whether you still chose to marry him or not, as a smoking, drinking, and porn-using man.

If there is still time and trust for that kind of conversation between the two of you, maybe there is still hope.

But trust is delicate and hard to regain once broken.

inlectorecumbit · 04/03/2015 22:58

Just leave--if he lies this much after such a short marriage there really is no hope of him changing. Go now while there are no DC's involved.
It won't get any better. Once a liar always a liar.

springydaffs · 05/03/2015 01:02

Sounds like an addict to me. So, yes, lies upon lies within lies. Lips/moving? He's lying.

Your instinct is spot on. You can't be caring about what people think.

What a terrible disappointment.

forumdonkey · 05/03/2015 06:21

Why would you be with and marry someone who you want to change? What would you have done if he'd told you the truth and said he'd had a cigarette? You're his wife/partner not his mother yet you seem IMO want to treat him like a child. If alcohol and smoking is not acceptable why did you get involved with a smoker who drinks?

Yes lies hurt but in the grand scheme of life its a fag, a pint and a sandwich. You say he doesn't love you enough to want to change to fit in with your views/lifestyle and opinion why do you love him enough to accept him for being who he is and what he was when you met him?

You come across as very controlling IMO

Patchworkpatty · 05/03/2015 07:55

You sound like a really scary control freak. You met a man who smokes and drinks, you want to change him but when he reverts to his normal self he lies so that you don't catch him out. why didn't you just move on at the beginning of these were such big issues ? why didn't you dump him for someone who doesn't smokes or drink if it was so important to you. You can't MAKE people who you want them to be.

ChipDip · 05/03/2015 08:03

You come across as really controlling and unbearable honestly. He has to hide take away containers from you? You just don't suited to each other and you wanting to change him probably won't work.

firesidechat · 05/03/2015 10:26

I think we need more information.

How much does he drink? Enough to be an alcoholic?

Did he go to rehab at your suggestion and why?

I have never smoked and never been drunk, but I thoroughly enjoy a glass or two of wine with my meal in the evening. I don't think drinking alcohol and smoking necessarily make someone a bad boy. I wouldn't however date or marry a smoker or an alcoholic and maybe that's where you went wrong.

As written your post does sound a bit controlling, but that may be down to your writing style rather than reality. Just possibly the lying and hiding stuff is because you are controlling or just maybe he is an addicted liar, but it is quite hard to tell.

dominogocatgo · 05/03/2015 10:32

Never mind more information, some punctuation would be a start.

pinkyredrose · 05/03/2015 10:39

Sheesh you're opening post was just one long sentence. V difficult to read.

Ponyinthepool · 05/03/2015 11:18

The first few years of marriage should be blissful - if you're fretting here just a few months in, the writing is on the wall. Staying in a relationship because you're worried about what other people will think is utter madness. They are not the ones having to deal with it, so it really doesn't matter what they think, this is YOUR life.

You will never be able to trust him and that's fundamental in a marriage. I know it's very easy to say LTB, but seriously, LTB. Either a man is the type who resorts to lying or he isn't, and they don't change. My advice to you is to cut your losses.

hereandtherex · 05/03/2015 13:09

I drink. My partner drinks. 2 to 3 bottles of wine a week + the odd beer. Neither of us need rehab.

Someone who needs rehab does not drink, they swim in a pool of booze.

You really should not be getting involved with someone like this. For 'bad boy' read useless, self indulgent turd.

You are either a fucking idiot or very naive. Why the fuck di you get hitched to him FFS?

sandymoon101 · 05/03/2015 20:05

Ok, so more information. Punctuation- can not do so well, since I currently live in Mexico, and not very savvy in writing English but will try.

To start I am a Jehovah´s Witness always have been always will be, even if some of you here will not agree but they are my believes, and perhaps you will say now I understand why you are the control freak you are. I might be a control freak but that who I am any way, my husbands family are catholic, he has never professed any religion.

I never told him to change for me, I simply told him I do not wish to go out with you because of who you are. He started changing for him, at least that is what he had said. He went to rehab for alcoholic issues (we were not going out at the time because I had said I did not care if he did go or not I was not going to risk it.). (The drinking was severe to a point he would wake up in his car somewhere in the city and not remember how he got there.) He got out of rehab, and started studding the bible with a Jehovah´s witness that I did not even know at the time because that witness was in a different congregation than mine he had apparently met him in college .

During the time he was studding he did send me text messages once in a while and most of time I would not respond. He would send me flowers and such. His grandfather and cousin both died during this time. I attended to his grandfathers funeral because he was a friend of the family, I saw him there, after not having seen him since I had told him I did not want to date him. He was so sad obviously, I gave him a hug and since that day I began to answer his text messages more often still not seeing him. A couple of more months went by and then he called me one night crying because they had killed his cousin and I stayed on the phone till he was able to calm down. During this whole time he kept studding the bible. He had an argument one night with his parents because of the religion so he took off, his mother called me worried she did not know anything about him and he would not answer his cell. I of course became worried so I started contacting everyone I could think of that he might be with. Finally his mom called me to tell me that he was with his grandma who lived in another city, and that his cell phone had died and did not have a charger with him. She gave me his grandmothers phone number, I called and we talked. When he got back he went to see me and we talked, one thing led to another and we kissed. We began dating, and he continued to study the bible. He said he was making changes in his life for him, because he did not want to end up like his cousin which was killed for drug related issues. So I believed him and continued to date him, because well I cared for him and liked him a lot.

Since we began dating which was February of 2012 he continued to study and never smoked or drank again, that I ever found out about at least. He got baptized as a Jehovah´s Witness In October of 2013 and we continued dating for another year and got married In September of 2014.
When all of what I have mentioned in the original post started happening.

So, I think I did not change him or ask him to do so, he did it himself and I did not accept him for who he was as a smoker, drinker, porn-user. I accepted him for who he had appeared to have changed in to.

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dominogocatgo · 05/03/2015 20:38

If you believe all that Jebus stuff, why not simply forgive your husband, and let your invisible friend deal with him ?

GinSoakedBitchyPony · 05/03/2015 21:02

arf

chimchimini · 05/03/2015 21:03

So are you saying you are against him smoking and drinking on religious grounds? Or is he an alcoholic?