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Long story of 5 yr rel, nc for 3 days advice needed

49 replies

Movingonwithmylife · 28/01/2015 11:16

Firstly i want to say sorry this is going to be a fairly long post as i want you to know the whole story and not just bits so you can give clear advice knowing all the facts.

So i met my erm partner ex partner unsure what exactly he is atm.
First year absoubtly fine lived together got on pretty well, one child involved, anyway nothing really to report the first 2 years fine and like a normal family, he used to moan alot about work how crap it was he wanted out, i stupidly found a vacancy at another place and he applied and went on to get the job which of course was good news, he soon realised at the new place he had to work alot harder than the old job but this did show in his wages , anyway in the 2nd year of the rel things were ok, He was working alot more gone frm about 25 hrs at the old job to 35-40hrs at the new place but we still got on ok just didnt see each other as much. we also moved house in year 2into a proper family home long term rent ( before we had rented but knew it wasnt somewhere to settle) at this point we had occasional fall outs nothing major though.

Now the real problems began in year 3/4 of the relationship he got a promotion and was now manager which was great news so i thought the hours increased and our child was at the stage of needing to mix with other children before going into education so i found local groups places to go whilst he was at work so i wasnt in the house all day, he didnt like this one bit and said i shouldnt go and he wanted me to stay in and look after dc i had a list of days and events that were on for about 3 days ( mornings each 2-3 hrs) wrote down but he said no way was i going out 3 mornings a week even though this was for toddler groups etc i was very isolated at this point i lost alot of friends as it was impossible for me to go out in the evenings and daytime was difficult with dc he made it clear he liked the family unit him, me and dc.
Things went from bad to worse and this is when the name calling began and slapping it was really lonely time of my life and writing this is bringing back all the painful memories, he would lash out and slap me across my face this was in the living room and yes dc would see this and cry / scream at points dc was on the sofa crying and i would try and get him out the room but he kept on shouting swearing and trying to get me. He eventually would get out to the hallway but still try and get in the door i had to move the sofa sometimes to block the door but hes strong so sometimes didnt work.
When he couldnt get back in he would go upstairs to our bedroom and smash my perfume up he did this only once but i had to clean up the glass and have my dc on the bed with me at all times. I knew then that he has issues ive never seen before.

He would then go to work and text me a hour later like nothing had happened. Anyway things like that kept happening for a good few months of hell i would often just cry at night and i remember how low i felt but i was stuck i had no where else to go so i stayed and hoped things get better,now going into year 5 the last year, we started getting on ok... and then the landlord seen the contract was coming to renewal but was putting the rent up . My partner was refusing to pay the increase for various reasons and said he wanted to buy a house so i agreed as renting was just dead money. We went through to almost buy a house, this fell through at the last minute and a few weeks later i had a mc this was all too much for him and he lashed out this time dc wasnt around thank god, he attacked me he pulled me off a bed and hit my head off a chest of draws and then pushed me agaisnt the wall and split my lip i was really shaken and didnt know what had happened this was the worst ive ever seen him lose it and i knew that was it i couldnt keep this man in my life or dc life.
I managed to find a place to rent a smaller place just for me and dc and moved out he knew i was going and couldnt change my mind he accepted he went too far and apologised over and over.

I stupidly gave him another chance at the rel a few months later , he doesnt live with us though i have been clear on that , i can never think about living with him again the thought of it makes me feel ill and sad. Since then we have been on and off and lately ive just gave up hope i keep trying and trying but since oct/nov i realise the feelings i lost for him all that time ago when he started calling me names i cannot get back, i dont feel any love for him anymore. Ive realised forgiveness is not as easy as i thought and i simply cannot get over the past like he says i should, we often talk about what happened because i bring it up saying i dont see the rel going anywhere and he just says things will get better and i need to get over the past.

I am just wanting others opinions as i have little contact with friends i dont have many . I have wrote most of the rel i cant be sure of the exact times things happened thats why ive wrote years although alot has happened the last 2 years especially the last year so its difficult to place events to time.
Now im in the situation where i havent spoke to him for the last 3 days and i havnt seen him since the weekend he texted me this morning and said he is 'so so sorry' for everything hes done, i have ignored this but finding it all difficult thats why i have come on here for advice.
Thanks for reading sorry its so long

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Gfplux · 28/01/2015 11:27

Some others more experienced will be along soon. However I just wanted to say you are doing the right thing. Get this person out of your life.

MrsHathaway · 28/01/2015 11:32

He's a horrible, horrible person. Read it back as though you didn't write it.

Would you consider calling Women's Aid on 0808 2000 247? They will help.

Bullshit he's sorry. He's sorry you noticed that he is a shitbag, so he doesn't have sex/laundry/food on tap.

Movingonwithmylife · 28/01/2015 11:41

i have just read it back and id tell the girl not to go back go him ever, ive realised this, ive noticed i have missed a few things out but there on the same line of name calling and minor physical events.

I know that this is not something i want anymore

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MrsHathaway · 28/01/2015 11:49

GOOD!

You've said you have nobody around because he's isolated you from everyone. Be careful that he doesn't become extra violent now that you have stood up to him. Does he have a key? If he does, make sure you put the chain on or double lock it or whatever you can do, and plan to have the locks changed as soon as possible.

Do call Women's Aid though, please.

StuffYouAllInTheCrust · 28/01/2015 11:50

I think you already know that you need to stay away from this 'man'. He is an abuser and that is not likely to change. My 'father' was the same and although I was too young to remember what went on, my older brother suffered so badly for many, many years, even after my mum left due to what he witnessed. Good luck sweet, you've done the right thing not letting him back in to your home, it's time to kick him to the kerb full stop. You and your dc deserve so much better. You need to keep yourself and your family safe.

Movingonwithmylife · 28/01/2015 11:54

No he has no key this is a house that i rent just me and dc he hasnt tried coming round yet he has just txted the last 3 days but ive ignored these and if he does come round and knock i will ignore it but im unsure if he will try, i said to him last week surely he can not be happy with this rel and he must see it not going anywhere but he just says the same things all the time, that he loves me and hes sorry for everything and i need to get over the past.

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BitOutOfPractice · 28/01/2015 12:00

You do not need to "get over" anything he's done OP.

You know what you need to do. Get him out of your life forever. You sound like a strong woman. I know you can do this for yourself and your trouble.

Are you worried for your safety now? I don't think it would do any harm to have a word with the police and let them know your worries

Good luck to you in your new free life Thanks

Movingonwithmylife · 28/01/2015 12:05

no im not particulary worried about my safety as he cant get in and i think he must deep down accept it as its not normal behaviour if you love someone you dont call them vile names or hurt them physically surely he knows that? im more worried about the future of being alone hes all ive known for years and due to me not having many friends im just worrying about that atm but im more concentrating on keeping up the nc as i have gave in before and gave chances but this time i really dont want to go back there.

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MrsHathaway · 28/01/2015 12:17

i think he must deep down accept it as its not normal behaviour if you love someone you dont call them vile names or hurt them physically surely he knows that?

No, he doesn't. He doesn't love you, and probably never did. Not in the way you mean or the way normal people mean it.

He hurt you because he could and because he didn't care that it was wrong. He must not have further contact with you, or unsupervised contact with your child.

winkywinkola · 28/01/2015 12:20

You won't be alone for long. You have your freedom now to meet and make new friends.

What a horrible horrible time of it you've had. I'm so sorry to hear you've been treated so very badly.

You need to hold your head up high now. You got out. You've created safety for yourself and your dcs. That tool a lot of guts.

You're a strong, knowing woman. Do not let this vile creature try to trick you back into the dark days.

He knows you are strong and he doesn't like it one bit. He wants to control you again and beat you down.

You don't need to get over what horror he inflicted on you. You have learned from it and this toad is simply not worthy of you.

You're doing brilliantly. Keep up the nc. He can't get to you.

mix56 · 28/01/2015 12:30

You have no friends because he has isolated you, he didn't want you going to play group etc. You can go now, you will quickly meet other mums & be able to talk to other people, maybe invite mum & friends for tea etc. same once you DC gets to school age, you WILL meet other mums.. give it time.
You don't need this abusive man, he has not proven to be loving & supportive, he has beaten you, he has frightened your DC, It will not go away, this is a classic cycle that abusers go thru, they hurt you, then reel you back in by behaving in a normal loving way with excuses, & remorse, then it goes round to violence again.
Is the DC his own child? if not cut all bonds, tell him it is definitively over, get a non-mol if necessary, Do not give ambivalent signals. it's over.
just send one firm message saying that you have moved on & is all placed to understand why your relationship is definitively over.
then NO CONTACT

mix56 · 28/01/2015 12:31

he is

SassyPasty · 28/01/2015 12:36

Tell him you ARE getting over the past by not going back to it. Ever. You've been incredibly strong and recognised that your child cannot be brought up in this controlling and violent atmosphere. You can now do the lovely sociable (and very normal) things with your child that you planned.

Now is the time to sort things going forward. Is he paying maintenance? What sort of contact is he having with his child? Maybe seek advice from Women's Aid or your local Children's Services on supervised contact so that he can't use this as a way of being in 'your' life - men like him will often use contact as actually a way of spending time with you (and keeping tabs on what you are up to). Keep all contact with him only on the subject of the child, no talking of the relationship - that simply doesn't exist any longer.

Hats off to you - what an amazing woman and mother you are!

Movingonwithmylife · 28/01/2015 14:16

no he isnt paying maintence and never gave me any money he justifys this by saying when we lived together he paid all the rent and bills ( as he was the one working)

i just am finding it difficult ignoring him but i know its the right thing to do or ill get trapped in this circle forever and that is a waste of my life

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mix56 · 28/01/2015 14:34

movingon, YES, he is a waste of time, he will never EVER be the person you want him to be, too much pain has already been handed ou.
3 days with NC is great, tomorrow will be 4, the longer the better, keep busy & spend time finding out about maintenance now instead of looking at your phone....
as he is no longer paying your rent, he can pay maintenance.

Charley50 · 28/01/2015 14:42

You've done so well getting away from this abusive 'man.' Staying would have meant a waste of yours and your DC life.
I would think about involving the police too, if he keeps trying to contact you, and also just arranging contact at a contact centre (if he wants contact).
You will make friends now that he is out of your life, and can be happy and feel safe in your home. Get some support you shouldn't have to go through this alone.

Quitelikely · 28/01/2015 14:49

You have been living in a very abusive relationship.

Please do not have any more children with this vile man. It is his way to keep you trapped.

He has isolated you from all other contact. Can you restart the groups?

Is your son at school? Could you perhaps go to college or look for work?

It is not up to your ex if he pays maintenance or not. The law said he must pay it and you can apply online for it. You do not have to tell him you are doing this.

He will never, ever, ever change. Sadly he will always be mr nice/mr nasty.

It is who he is and he will never make you happy

He has crushed your esteem and confidence but you must start to se you have a brilliant future ahead of you.

Do not let him in your house.

He's bad news. He's abusive. And you deserve better.

Movingonwithmylife · 28/01/2015 14:58

yes i did go to a group now dc is at school and i am looking for p/t work to fit round the school hours i will definately look into the maintenance next week when im got my head round everything .
Thanks for everyones advice really appreciate it glad i wrote as much as i could now because you all know the fuller picture now rather than isolated incidents, i worry about things like no friends etc but i am trying my best not to let them worrys overtake the decision ive taken.

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Ohfourfoxache · 28/01/2015 15:08

Sweetheart I'm a little unclear about what you need advice on. Support, yes - I can completely understand that, but as far as advice is concerned you've already done exactly the right thing (getting away, ignoring text messages, staying safe etc)

Is it reassurance you're after? It sounds like you've been beaten down by his arsehole repeatedly (physically, emotionally and mentally) and need to know that you've done the right thing?

Please don't think I'm being nasty at all, I just wonder if you're not actually giving yourself the huge amount of credit you deserve Thanks

Movingonwithmylife · 28/01/2015 15:11

yes i supose your right and its more reassurance im after sorry im feeling abit confused about everything so maybe your right and its not advice i need.

I know deep down ive down the right thing and i cant give another chance i just need others to give me strengh to not go back.

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mumofthemonsters808 · 28/01/2015 15:15

Stay strong OP you are heading in the right direction, under no circumstances allow him in your house. You must not waver, history will only repeat itself, he is a vile specimen. You and your children deserve to live in an environment where violence is not the norm.You can do this.

Clutterbugsmum · 28/01/2015 15:16

I would assume that he is just trying another tactic to get you to contact him. He just game playing. I'm betting he thinks you will crack first and contact him because you 'miss him'.

Ignore all texts unless they are about contact with your DS, and contact the CSA (or whatever they are called this week) about maintenance that way he can not use money as a stick to beat you with.

Ohfourfoxache · 28/01/2015 15:22

It's completely understandable to feel confuddled - you wouldn't be normal if you didn't Thanks

Let's face it, you've been through the shittiest of shit times. You've been abused, repeatedly sold lies (him saying he's sorry- he's not, btw, he's only sorry that you're not putting up with it any more), and your beautiful dc have witnessed things that I know you would never, ever let them witness under normal circumstances.

The problem with these arseholes is that they specialise in manipulation and "the head fuck". The result being that you have a tendency to doubt yourself now.

You have done exactly the right thing. You're safe. Your dc are in a far more positive environment with a strong, wonderful mum who can protect them. You're free, and you never have to live like that again.

Have you thought about counselling? I know it's not for everyone (I've had one course, should probably have more) but it might be worth looking into?

There is also something called The Feeedom Programme - I've heard lots of MNetters refer to it in similar situations but I don't know much about it. Might be worth a Google?

Ohfourfoxache · 28/01/2015 15:24

Where abouts are you (roughly)? Could you have a look into local groups? Might be a way of building your self confidence

Adarajames · 28/01/2015 23:53

You deserve huge congratulations for doing the right thing and getting away from him, and there is no way you need to even consider for a microsecond that you've not and should go back to him! See each day with NC as a result, speak to womens aid to get the support you need; freedom programme to meet other women also a good support; and start going to places you want to go without need for permission, and get back in touch with those friends / family you were isolated from by his actions, sure they'll be so very glad you are now safely away and can start making new friendships x

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