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Online dating detox - care to join me?!

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Rosalie43 · 31/12/2014 11:13

Hello,

I hope this is the right place to try to garner support for / find would-be fellow followers of the above; have read a few threads on here and joined today with hope of finding this...

In brief: is there anyone else out there who is, quite simply, wrung out - emotionally - with the attempt to find a new boyfriend / partner online? I have just been through another gutting experience and realised that I need to be kind to myself and have a total break from actively seeking out a new man in this way.

I have been on my own with my children for five years now and apart from one short-term relationship with a truly lovely guy (but not right for me, alas), these years have been peppered with all sorts of scenarios - some I was happy with as they suited me; others weren't quite what they seemed and ended in minor heartache for me.

My most recent experience - met a lovely-seeming man in mid-November; tried to go slow but got caught up in feeling good / sexy / wanted (it had been a while...!). He talked about going away together after Christmas for a couple of days, had rearranged his weekends so we could be child-free at the same time, talked about the summer...spent a lovely evening and night together in the week before Christmas, we seemed to start opening up to one another and he told me some very personal things about his past...that evening, though, he warned me that he finds Christmas difficult and goes into a "cave" for a while; the idea of going away became hazy and vague, which made me anxious and I told him that I don't deal well with uncertainty and would rather we definitely had a plan, or not - he didn't seem to get this. He slept in my bed that night, all lovely, then left early for work. Then followed near text silence for two days - I am not keen on texting but he had established a frequent pattern - followed by an out-of-the -blue brief message telling me that it wouldn't work between us, that I am a nice woman but not his type...It was horrible. I asked him to ring as he owed me a conversation; he said that he would but I have heard nothing. He has disappeared.

The entire experience has left me reeling; I thought my radar was better attuned, thought he seemed genuine, and decent. I had made clear that I didn't want a casual fling, and he had stressed his need to be with someone he could share his free time with.

So, in addition to needing to work out what went wrong here - and he has selfishly given me no idea/conversation - I need to to step away from OLD for a few months - six?? - and work further on that currently malaligned (wrong word, but you get my drift....) radar...fill time with other activities...the downside is that I am, at times, genuinely lonely and crave intimacy and closeness - this is what has been drawing me into the OLD all along...

Any of this resonate with anyone out there? If so, let's try and do this together..go into the new year with a sense of purpose and out-there support - ?

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RoseisFlying · 02/01/2015 00:33

And I am guessing now you feel good that he has thrown you a little bread crumb.... a text....I remember being like this too. That high you get knowing they have shown you a little bit of attention, only to feel crushingly low once you realise the next cycle of ignore/contact/ignore contact is about to begin. You wonder why you can't just sack it off. it's that very same cycle of shit that makes you feel like there is " chemistry " and you have a special connection. But the chemistry is fake, it's drama and unpredictablity that gives you those butterfly feelings. With a nice emotionally available man there isn't any drama, and so they can seem boring...but boring is what I want now. I just need to get rid of the fleas from the skanky assholes I had allowed myself to come into contact with first.

becoolandcalm · 02/01/2015 00:40

That is brilliant advice for all of us in need of clarity. Thank you from myself.

brokenhearted55a · 02/01/2015 01:05

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RoseisFlying · 02/01/2015 01:46

Just delete his number. Block him. Yes, you heard right. If he really really wants to get in touch with you and be with you he will find other ways other than whatsapp.

What is he contacting you about exactly? A " hi how are you? " text is not contact by the way. It's just checking that you are still there on a leash waiting for him. You are his plan B, until something else better comes along.

Get rid of him

Older · 02/01/2015 07:46

I think it's seeing others in Broken's situation that makes me want to steer clear of online dating. I feel quite comfortable with my life and don't want the turmoil of giving headspace to a bloke. Is it just OD that does that though?

As Hansel suggested we do I'm just really busy with a very full life but worried that I'll end up old and alone.

Older · 02/01/2015 07:49

broken whilst I suspect Rosie's post feels hard to read I have a friend who is doing what you are doing (angsting over a bloke) and I so want to say it to her. I don't because I fear her reaction. It's what she needs to do though

Jujuheyhey · 02/01/2015 08:25

Older -> I agree, it's the fear of being alone that drives me back to OD every time. But when I look back over the past few years, the times I have been happiest were when I was genuinely single and not pursuing/thinking about relationships. I felt peace of mind!

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Rosalie43 · 02/01/2015 09:45

Hello fellow detoxers Smile

Love the posts by Hansel and Rose; please can we stick to the idea of steering clear of OD rather than agonising over every tiny last crumb that selfish wankers choose to throw beneath the table whenever it suits them? I have been there, like a starving animal desperately waiting for that crumb - or two, if I was lucky. It made me nearly ill, on and off. After almost five very on / off years I told him to fuck off and never contact me again. It was SO EMPOWERING. I am not on his leash any more.

So, sticking with the original idea, and awake at 3am with a churning mind and awful anxiety - which I have suffered from for a long time but recent events have really triggered it hence the need to be kind to self and AVOID OD, I wrote a huge list on the first couple of pages of my diary:

What has been positive about Christmas
What I want to achieve over the next 3 days (child free)

May sound awfully cheesy to some but it has focussed my mind on what is great about my life (loving family, despite its very dysfunctional past moments / great children (when not trying to kill each other Grin) / good friends, etc...), and specific goals for now - not tiresome drudgery but stuff for me that makes me feel good (buy that yoga dvd / spend my Xmas vouchers on MYSELF, not the children / book a weekend with a friend in London, etc etc).

I feel better, calmer, more positive - and if that feeling only lasts a few minutes or hours, then at least I have had it. One foot in front of the other...

So, fellow detoxers, what ONE thing are you going to do today that has nothing to do with finding a partner, and is all about YOU, your life, your immediate future??

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TeapotDictator · 02/01/2015 10:04

broken if I am reading this correctly this guy sent you a text on Christmas Eve. One which didn't require a response. This is no accident, he was closing the conversation down. You have been agonising ever since about whether you should have replied (even though his text did not require a reply) because he hasn't been in touch. Yesterday you sent him a reply and he has read it but not replied.

Rosie's right on the money with her messages to you. Every time somebody tells you on here that this is clearly ridiculous and you are spending so much time and energy thinking about something which is nothing, you come back with a justification as to why you should keep going. It's like a dog with a bone. Delete his number, forget him. This is not how relationships - or even friendships - are meant to be.

olderguy · 02/01/2015 10:07

Rosalie43good post I've been thinking myself what do I want to achieve over the next year. I'm going to spend the next year getting used to being single again, be the best dad I can to my DD, try and build a small social circle and just enjoy some me time and rediscover what I like to do rather than carry on with the frustrations of OD. I've tried OD but at the moment it's just not for me and I've banned myself from it completely

RoseisFlying · 02/01/2015 10:07

To think that this is what you would put up with after five months? Crikey. Where is your self respect? I can see from your posts that you think you are the exception to the rule. Carry on I say, but this " man " you are pining over is not going to miraculously change and be the man you want him to be. Why? Because he doesn't need to. You are there willing and waiting to give him all your time, care and love for not much in return. As women we need to stop putting up with this sort of shoddy behaviour, and start knowing our worth more.

RoseisFlying · 02/01/2015 10:13

Rosalie - I plan on going to Halfords today to pick up my daughter's first ever bike. She is like an excited bunny. And I will probably spend the day reading some ebooks on self esteem etc. For anyone who uses amazon, they have a free 30 day trial on kindle ebooks. You don't have to have a kindle you can download the free kindle app to your pc and read them from your laptop or phone.

Rosalie43 · 02/01/2015 10:14

Yes, almost five years. Very sporadic contact, at heightened phases we saw each other every couple of months; at times when I had tried to call it off, maybe nine months. Needless to say, yes, amazing sex but now I can see how that tied in with what Rose said upthread: those excited, butterfly feelings are about anxiety because your gut instinct is telling you that this person is no good for you and you should really be running away. I attempted in between times to find a "proper boyfriend". At times it suited me; at others, it left me ragged and distraught; it battered my self esteem - already on the floor following a horrendous divorce - and triggered appalling anxiety. I finally realised the extent to which it was all about HIM and me simply desperately straining on that leash for one or two more crumbs of attention, when I had to have a mammogram and despite him knowing about it, he didn't ask me how it went. That is when I realised that I needed him out of my life. This most recent guy was my first dating experience since getting rid of the other one; I genuinely thought I had it all sussed, that my bullshit radar was working optimally...How wrong I was.

Feel so sad, writing all that; did I really let that happen??

So...time to work on anything other than actively seeking a partner, getting anxiety under control (Rose: have also been offered the anti depressants, not taken but they are in my bathroom cabinet...), restoring my self esteem.

Never again will I be that person, awaiting an empty text message.

Any more good detoxing ideas out there? Smile

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Rosalie43 · 02/01/2015 10:17

Oops, sorry, some crossed posts - am doing the one-fingered stabbing thing on a tablet and it takes forever...

Nice ideas - nothing more lovely than making your kids smile Smile

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Rosalie43 · 02/01/2015 10:26

Broken, I don't think it is about massive, bold steps; nothing daunting. I am not really talking about changing my life entirely - although some aspects I would like to, and a new job is also at the back of my mind - but manageable things that you enjoy; connecting with what I used to love doing before the responsibility of parenthood...remembering what used to make me smile / feel great (a long walk...company of a great friend..that kind of stuff).

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HanselandGretle · 02/01/2015 10:55

Great and inspiring posts from you Rosalie43 - I'd recommend the AD for a short period, I had some a couple a years ago and they did help, nothing to be scared about as providing you follow doctors orders. Best advice though to detox is getting on with life, for you!
I've decided, or more to the point, how out of control and unsatisfying my life feels a lot of the time, has dictated I need a complete overhaul, it really does mean, changing job (possibly within the same company for convenience and security sake but if not then...adios!) and move house, things I've been thinking and procrastinating on for a long time now.

Broken you sound sad, I do feel for where you are at emotionally, I was there too and it's hard to see just how pathetic one can become in the face of a perceived connection to someone else, it's human. But we all have it within us to give ourselves a stiff talking to and decide to have some self belief and self-worth. You are being offered crumbs, move on, head high, you deserve more.

Arrowminta · 02/01/2015 10:56

My friend was trying to get me to fill out a profile for Match, she thought a paid site might be better than POF Hmm. She handed me the laptop to fill in some details and I deleted it. Glad I did reading up today. I'm on a detox.

I've done do well last year getting rid of a couple of men that were no good for me, met them in RL (One went on for years). The latest was my step back into OLD world and I could see the pattern emerging so stopped it before it got there. No contact from me or him and althought, yes, the chemistry was there etc.... I still think about him but will never accept the crap again.

Love this thread.

Broken, if he cares, leave him to prove it to you. DELETE and don't accept crumbs.

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Arrowminta · 02/01/2015 11:06

Broken, I don't think anyone thinks you are sitting around waiting. No one does that when they are in this situation. It's not the physical aspect but the emotional one that is potentially painful and really not worth it.

We've all been there so can empathise.

Rosalie43 · 02/01/2015 11:12

Thanks, Hanwell. I was offered them about a year ago and have taken them out of the packet a few times. Most worried about the side effects as apparently - it's Citalopram - they can disturb sleep and I simply don't function well on lack of sleep (two babies in two years = hellish sleep deprivation, plus divorce stress..). My anxiety mostly focuses on health - catastrophising. My current anxiety has caused lower back / abdominal pain - my mind has leapt all over the place and been to some dark places.

So OLD = harmful for health, for me.

On that note - off for a lovely long bath with a mug of Earl Grey and Radio 4.. Bliss Smile

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Older · 02/01/2015 13:33

My plans are:
Short term- walk the dog more, shift some Christmas weight, start using turbo trainer to get bike fitness back, swim a mile once a week. Have a dry January. Hoover more and clean the carpets

Long term- increase swimming steadily ready for a long distance event at the end of the year. Increase cycling so that I can think nothing of doing a hilly 45 miles in a morning. Change my current job (either promotion or move sideways to get more fulfilling role)

I'm already anticipating failures Grin

Jujuheyhey · 02/01/2015 18:34

My short term plans:- de-Xmas my house and give it a damn good clean! Arrange play dates for DD (and grown up ones for me!) Read more. Find a good box set to see me through January.

Long term:- Redecorate my living room, de clutter my loft and have it boarded out. Arrange to visit friends at the other end of the country. Think about taking a class in something (yes this is vague!)

I'm actually looking forward to January - this time last year I was really unwell so getting back to work and detoxing feels like a real bonus!

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