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The Cuppa Tea Saga, cont.

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diydiva · 08/11/2014 01:59

I started another thread a few days ago in chat about the fact DH never makes me a cup of tea, whether he's making it for himself or just as a nice thing to do for me, so I asked whether other people's DHs do the same. The response was overwhelmingly that it's just plain rude not to ask, especially if you're making one for yourself and it's just a perfectly normal thing to do for your partner.

Fine. I get that DH needs training in this department and maybe I should have sorted this out years ago because we've been together a long time and for some reason it's only become a thing and a talking point (or rather arguing point) recently.

So, please tell me what's going on here, because I'm getting really upset, by such a, what should be, trivial thing.

The other day I had a rare night out and so in the morning, still in bed, I messaged him in the other room "Any chance of a cuppa?" (Yep, I know, lazy but didn't want to get up yet or call out). I'd heard his phone ding and knew he'd seen the message. After a couple of minutes he came in said something non-tea related and so I asked him if he'd seen my message. He was still in joke-mode so sort of smirked and said no - but it was obvious he had - but I told him I'd heard the ding and anyway after a few frustrating exchanges he said something like "I'm not aware of any requests" - so clearly let it slip he had seen it and had chosen to ignore it. I thought because he was joking he was just going to come back in a minute with a cuppa.

Now this is the thing though. Lately he seems to have two modes - a jokey, flippant, smirky one and an angry, pissed off one. Flippant can go to angry in seconds and this is what keeps happening lately and I'm just so tired of it.

So to finish the silly tea story, I just said oh for god's sake, can you please just make me a cup of tea? He went out, I heard him switch the kettle on, came back a few minutes later and just said "the kettle's boiled, I'm going out now" at which point I just got really upset and told him to cut it out, stop making such a big deal over a cup of tea and can't he just make it for me without all this fuss? I stupidly welled up a bit too. He stomped off, so clearly flippant had turned to anger by this point, and then eventually came back with a cup of tea, but put it down in front of me saying "I'm doing this now but don't think this is going to be a regular thing" and off he went.

WHY are we having arguments over cups of tea and what's going on his his behaviour??? Clearly it's not only a problem with sodding tea but I just don't get why he can't do something so simple for me without it making it seem like a big ask. I make him tea and coffee all the time. In fact I'm a SAHM at the moment so I do everything for him and all I really want in return is the gesture more than the tea.

Thank you if you got this far!

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diydiva · 10/11/2014 12:38

Oh, I thought this thread was dead!

Blimey, Anyfucker, strong words from you. I am obviously going to go on the defensive here and say I'm not about to throw away my relationship without attempting to fix this issue first. He deserves a chance to put things right as it's only really now that I'm tackling it.

I think it's come up now because I've always worked and I've only been a SAHM a for a relatively short time, and it's changed the dynamic slightly. I think this is why it's highlighted this selfish streak in him to me more, because we used to share domestic chores more evenly before. I can't really remember getting as angry about the tea thing - or other similar things - before, but it must have happened except I didn't notice it so much.

He might be an arse in my description of him, and I tend to agree yes he can be but he's not always like that or I wouldn't be with him. When you've been with someone so long you forget any other way to be sometimes.

At the beginning of our relationship, I said I found some of his sentimental behaviour OTT but I didn't think of it as a red flag that I chose to ignore! That's ridiculous, why would I knowingly get myself into a "bad" relationship? It's been a very gradual thing, not bam, we're married now, I've turned into a psycho overnight.

So obviously the way I'm defending him and our relationship now means I'm going to work at it as I definitely don't want to throw it away, not yet anyway.

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diydiva · 10/11/2014 12:45

Thank you Jux, I don't think it's too late to learn something about how to behave in a relationship. It's an open subject now and we've talked on and off about it so it's on his mind and making him stop and think.

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diydiva · 10/11/2014 12:49

Sorry to hear chasingtail you have a non-tea maker DH too despite good grounding. I'm hoping he makes up for it in other ways though?

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Nydj · 10/11/2014 12:54

I don't think you are being princessy in the least but I do agree with AF in that your husband sounds like incredibly hard work. It does seem ridiculous that so much effort has to be expended on your part to get the occasional cup of tea from him. Now if all that hard work also results in him seeing the light and generally treating you more respectfully then that's great but if he remains thoughtless and unkind in all other aspects and you have to expend vast quantities of effort to get him to change in each area then perhaps you do need to question how happy you will be to remain in the relationship in the long term.

AnyFucker · 10/11/2014 13:02

You will always get "strong words" from me when I see examples of entitled behaviour from men and how, in general, women are expected to manage it for the sake of preserving the relationship

Fuck that, I say

AnyFucker · 10/11/2014 13:03

and no, it is very far from "princessy" to expect, nay demand some respect from your partner

diydiva · 10/11/2014 13:14

Anyfucker, I like your direct approach Grin. However, what if my man's entitled behaviour is learned behaviour, from his own father? He's an intelligent man and I'm confident he can see things from my side, even if he does need to be shown the way. He's not blameless but I'm not a victim either.

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AnyFucker · 10/11/2014 13:20

There is no excuse for a grown man needing to be "shown the way"

I repeat, you are not his mother but you are certainly enabling him.

Only he can change learned behaviour and so far he is digging his heels in very effectively, isn't he

he has you dancing like a marionette to get a bit of what the rest of us would call simple respect for another person....do you fancy more of this ad infinitum ?

AnyFucker · 10/11/2014 13:21

btw, my approach is simply one of several, not a command to do it my way Smile

diydiva · 10/11/2014 13:36

It's taken me this long to realise that something is wrong so it doesn't mean I'm going to throw away everything we have now. I'm peeling back the layers to understand it all. His parents have a very interesting relationship, if you can call it that, and it explains an awful lot, it's a little bit eureka-ish.
Of course I don't want to be doing this, but I have to try.
AF, I won't be taking orders from anyone Grin but your black and white views on this are very interesting.

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AnyFucker · 10/11/2014 13:39

Smile Thanks

banish the grey !

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