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Who to believe. My mum or dd? Someone's lying.

55 replies

VivaLeBeaver · 06/11/2014 20:51

Background. Mum has got history big time for being quite bonkers and rude. She speaks her mind with seemingly no concern for people's feelings. She has been unbelievably rude and nasty at times to myself, dh and my brother. Though now would deny all this and say she's only ever said stuff because she's concerned about us but people think she's been hyper critical, etc.

Dd is 13yo and while I would like to think she's a good kid and honest I accept I could be biased.

Some stuff she's done in the past includes writing me a 4 page letter after I told her I was pregnant spouting shit that dd could be disabled as I was living in sin and I should have an abortion. She once went crazy about how messy my house was when I was Ill in hospital to the extent she made dd cry. I have tried to keep her at arms length over the years.

So a few weeks ago she had dd overnight as a favour to me so I could go to a wedding. Dh was out the country. I posted about this at the time as again (so dd tells me) mum went spare saying the house was messy. Dd tried explaining we had the builders coming on the Monday and that's why stuff was piled up in the dining room.

When I picked dd up the next day she was upset saying that my mum had been saying that I was fat, that I had "too much meat on my legs" and that my brother "has a gut on him and will get diabetes and die". According to dd she also called dh a "bum licker"

I was upset after dd told me this but never got the courage to confront my mum. I did tell my brother about it who wasn't very happy. I'd kind of forgotten about it.

Anyway its all blown up. My brother has confronted my mum.

My mum admits the comments about me and my brother been fat but says the comments have been taken out of context and that she was discussing diets and healthy eating with dd. she totally denies saying anything about the house been messy and Denies calling dh a bum licker.

My brother has told her its disgusting that she's prepared to call dd a liar. And it sounds like they're both going NC with each other permanently over this. Mum says she can never forgive my brother for the things he's said, that he's said she has to apologise to dd and explain herself to him. She says she won't be spoken to like that by him.

I think my brother is pissed off that I'm prepared to let her get away with it.

I do believe dd over my mum I think but there's always a nagging part of me that says a 13yo could be stirring.....she doesn't like my mum.

Part of me thinks my mum is so bonkers that she will have convinced herself she never said it and will now genuinely think she didnt.

As a phrase I'd say that my mum is more likely to use the term "bum licker" than dd. though mum just denied that to me and said she would never say anything so "vulgar". My mum when mad has a mouth like a sewer and calls other car drivers fucking bastards, twats, etc. and she knows I've heard her use language like this......so why say she wouldn't use vulgar language?? Because I think she genuinely forgets she's like this and paints herself a different reality.

My dd can swear, but I've never heard her say "bum licker".

My gut feeling is just to forget it all.

OP posts:
WillkommenBienvenue · 07/11/2014 09:40

The other thing I would say is part of the reason your mother is going apeshit bonkers is because you are starting to support your brother. There is nothing that Narc parents hate more than their children banding together and becoming a solid unit because it means they are no longer calling the shots and are no longer the focus of all the attention. DB and you go out together without her? Most decent parents would be pleased that their children have a healthy regard for each other. Narc ones see it as a threat to their sovereignty.

So keep up the contact and support with your brother. Bring him on board as a good uncle and role model to your daughter.

Heels99 · 07/11/2014 09:42

Your mum is mad but I think it was a bad idea to ask her to care for your dd just because it was convenient for you. Stop using bonkers mother for childcare it is not fair in your child.

dollius · 07/11/2014 09:51

FGS, she's already said she has used her mum as childcare only once in five years and isn't going to do it again!!!

Stop bashing the OP. I know what it is like to have very domineering parents with no boundaries. It takes near super-human emotional strength to clearly see that they are not "right" and "normal".

Give poor Beaver a chance.

Heels99 · 07/11/2014 09:58

I too have a toxic nightmare mother. I do not EVER use her for childcare, she hasn't seen my kids in 3 years. Hence my advice don't let her near the kids she is bonkers. This current situation has a sense of inevitability about it.

diddl · 07/11/2014 10:00

"Some stuff she's done in the past includes writing me a 4 page letter after I told her I was pregnant spouting shit that dd could be disabled as I was living in sin and I should have an abortion. She once went crazy about how messy my house was when I was Ill in hospital to the extent she made dd cry. I have tried to keep her at arms length over the years."

You do need to try harder to keep her at arm's length!

Perhaps your brother could help!

I mean the above would be enough to not see her again, let alone what else you have written in the op.

She won't be spoken to by your brother"like that", but what-she can call people wtf she wants because why?-she's your mother!

Why would someone say such horrible things to anyone, let alone her own young GD?

At least protect your daughter from your mum even if you can't yet protect yourself.

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