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Does my DH have mental issues?

71 replies

OinkOinkOink · 06/11/2014 18:23

If you have seen me posting already re: splitting up, please temporarily ignore / put to the back of your mind... We are going through Relate at the mo and I have agreed to TRY to save our marriage... The purpose of this post is to try to understand what has gone wrong and why. Is it worth staying and trying to sort him out. He says he feels 'not right in the head'. It's a last ditch attempt. Your opinions on whether or not you think my DH may have actual proper mental issues would be a real help. Here goes...

Before my DH and I met his family were quite concerned about him. Apparently he was very intense, painfully shy, self-obsessed, a 'troubled soul' and had great difficulty keeping girlfriends. My SIL recently pretty much said that last sentence word for word... He was 29 and I was 21 when we first got together. His family breathed a huge sigh of relief as apparently I 'fixed' him. In retrospect I was too young and should have read the signs and run a mile... But instead I blindly fell in love.

Fast forward... I am now 43, with two DCs and have been really struggling for the past six years. Aside from being grumpy and odd he has been having an in/off affair with the same woman. They are nauseatingly obsessed with each other and behave like love sick teenagers. She massages his ego and flatters him in a way in which cannot / will not (I'm too angry and ground down). Most of their activity is on social media / emails / texts.

Anyway... I am cannot understand his behaviour. Here is a list:

He frequently uploads selfies to several FB pages. He has these pages for his music, art, frisbee throwing, old records and then his actual personal FB page. These selfies are 'posed' often either shirtless or with buttons undone, on the beach in shorts etc. NB: he does have a good physique. He makes an effort to stay in trim and does weights at home (in front of the mirror).

He used to write a journal every day, prior to meeting me. When we moved from his flat into our first home together I found a whole box of journals. He had documented his life and relationships in great detail from age 16 to 29. He willingly destroyed them all. But to be honest it's always niggled me. What I saw of them was a bit odd and definitely obsessive... As far as I know he's never kept a journal since then. But he does write songs and poems instead.

He has a reasonably well paid but ordinary job, but is convinced he 'should' have been a musician or artist (both are hobbies). He gets all bitter and twisted about this frequently. If he comes across anyone locally making a living in either capacity and he thinks they are not as good as himself he gets very ranty and angry. We cannot, for example, just go out to an average pub gig because it makes him cross. Ditto local art exhibitions.

He has great difficulty mixing socially. His worst nightmare would be going to a party or large family event. He tends to hide in a corner and just talk to the people he knows.

He has no close male friends and rarely goes out to the pub or similar with anyone other than ex colleagues occasionally.

His own brother says he finds it very difficult to communicate with him and has struggled to stay in touch with him. I have a good relationship with my BIL and SIL - they would agree with what I have said above.

Soooo - what do you think?

TIA

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OinkOinkOink · 06/11/2014 21:42

Mistress - yes I'm sure you are right - but for financial reasons I need to pick my moment VERY carefully. If I leave right now I will have a truly shit time financially and probably render myself homeless in another six months time.

If I stay a little longer, see this Relate thing through and meanwhile get all my ducks in order... I will come out of it much better financially and my children will be far less stressed.

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Riverland · 06/11/2014 21:45

Good for you. Clear headed!

EssexMummy123 · 06/11/2014 21:48

I personally don't think it's healthy for children to live with and witness the unhappiness caused by this kind of strain.

MistressDeeCee · 06/11/2014 21:51

OP - thats fine, just pick your moment. You don't need a vain, insensitive, narcissistic man such as him to ruin your future years. Have you looking back down the years in time to come crying and wondering why on earth you stayed with him. Oh and btw - the "Relate" thing is normally a part of a relationship with a narcissist. I can bet he will use the info and tools gained there, to berate you with. Rare is the counsellor who can spot a narcissists, they're very good at hiding who they are under another personality; but, some can spot them and if this counsellor does then s/he may give you food for thought. The narcissist themself however, will never change. They'll attend counselling with you so as to cruelly get your hopes up that they are willing to make changes. But, they never do. Its license to be ok for a little while, then even worse than they were before.

Good luck and best wishes with the moving on...I hope you do, in good time. No man is worth all this, gotta love yourself more than you love him. Don't give him the chance to drive you nuts, with your children growing up and looking on too.

AnyFucker · 06/11/2014 21:52

the "relate thing" will fuck with your head

if he is driving that, I suggest you dig your heels in and refuse to attend for joint counselling

stop sleeping with him, stop any wifework and disengage completely

IMO, that is the only way you "wait it out" and keep any shred of dignity at all

whitsernam · 06/11/2014 21:53

If you really have to have more time to make things work, and I do understand that; did it myself! Then please listen to AF here... and try to make the break as cleanly as possible.

PrettyPictures92 · 06/11/2014 21:57

Note to self - stop keeping a detailed diary. Stop being painfully shy in real life. Start socialising. Stop writing poems even though you're good at it. Start communicating more with your family even though you like the peace and quiet from them. Make female friends.

Op honestly this is meant in the kindest way possible as it sounds like you're feeling a bit overwhelmed atm, nothing that you've described there would lead me to to believe your partner has "mental problems."

Apart from taking pics of myself (painfully camera shy) and getting bitter/twisted about the fact I haven't made a life for myself though writing (which would be my chosen career) I'm near exactly as you've described and the only "mental problems" I have is depression, which has nothing to do with the fact that I've been introverted my whole life.

I keep a detailed diary because it helps me keep track of things and express my feelings, something that I used to find impossible. Not because I'm obsessing over things. But if your partner is truly concerned that he has any sort of problems a doctor would be the best port of call.

The fact that your partner has cheated on and off with another woman is a whole different story though, how are you doing with this? It must be incredibly difficult and heartbreaking for you, do you have a lot of real life support? I hope you're doing ok Flowers

OinkOinkOink · 06/11/2014 21:59

AnyFucker:

Not slept with him for 6 weeks and counting... Hardly lifting a finger... Got more DIY done here in 6 weeks than has been done in 3 years. Our roof is fucked and letting in water and lock on the front door doesn't work properly (randomly blows open if not morticed from inside). I cannot afford to fix them. These issues will be sorted shortly. :-)

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AnyFucker · 06/11/2014 22:01

Good Smile

OinkOinkOink · 06/11/2014 22:07

PrettyPictures - I'm surprisingly ok. At the start of all this I didn't tell anyone. I was mortified, depressed, could not sleep and cried on and off most days. But in the last 18 months I have told all my close friends, my sister and (crucially) HIS close family. The burden is truly shared. I have good people around me. Thank you x

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PrettyPictures92 · 06/11/2014 22:13

I'm glad you've real support, mn can be useful but support in the real world makes a world of difference. Be kind to yourself, none of this is your fault. And as other posters have said, whether or not he had mental health issues should not be reason for you to stay with him nor for you to think that his behaviour is ok.

It sounds like life has really ground you down and right now I think it's a good time for you to start thinking purely about yourself (and your dc, but your health and wellbeing is more important than your relationship with him). I know you've said you can't leave for financial reasons just now, I hope that gets sorted for you fast. In the mean time try and separate your worry about him and your relationship to your everyday life. Do things that make you happy, things that you enjoy and that will give you a bit of confidence. And please do remember none of this is your fault. I really hope everything works out for the best for you Flowers

Tinks42 · 06/11/2014 23:41

HIS family is not yours
Where he sticks his penis is where he does
I dont get the finance thing to be honest due to the fact that women can and do survive very well without another income.

alicemalice · 07/11/2014 08:19

6 bloody years! OP, you need to get the hell out of this relationship. Don't try to fathom reasons for his behaviour - it must be extremely bad for YOUR mental health, regardless.

OinkOinkOink · 07/11/2014 09:34

The finances are complicated and covered in a different thread. Have taken advice from CAB and solicitor. Yes I could just up and leave (I have done before) but will have to make me and my kids homeless and then end up in a shitty housing situation as a result. It is best I stay here and HE goes. House is not in my name, although I do have housing rights. Also house is not in a good state of repair and work is in progress to get it secure and water tight (needs to be completed before he goes). I also need to find a job.

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OinkOinkOink · 07/11/2014 09:48

Also - I do not want the OW moving into MY home! I found a FB DM written end Sept asking him if I had left him yet. OW is in an unhappy marriage. My DH is her escape plan.
:-(

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alicemalice · 07/11/2014 10:17

Does he own the house, OP?

OinkOinkOink · 07/11/2014 10:55

The mortgage is in his name. But I am aware I have the right to stay and ask him to continue paying the mortgage. Cannot afford to buy him out. Don't want to force a sale just yet (but will at some point in the future).

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alicemalice · 07/11/2014 10:58

If you're married, then yes it will be a joint asset. Definitely don't move out, he should be the one to go if you're having the residency. Getting him to go is another matter, as you rightly point out.

OinkOinkOink · 07/11/2014 11:10

Thank you Alice.
I know others are trying to help with the 'get rid immediately' comments... If only it were that simple :-/
Aside from the staying / going side of things, the state of the house is a huge concern. I need the essential works completed before he goes. I cannot afford to pay for the work on my own, it's about £5000.
Also, it may be better to start the divorce proceedings while he is still here, as a means of getting him to go.

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AnyFucker · 07/11/2014 11:48

Yes, start divorce proceedings if he won't go. It will force the issue.

alphabook · 07/11/2014 12:32

The question isn't really "does he have MH problems", the question is "does he want to change and is he trying to change?" And other than some half hearted attempts at couples therapy it seems like the answer is no.

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