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MIL problem to end all MIL problems

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InSuchAState · 04/11/2014 20:26

I have posted about this before, vaguely, but many NCs ago, so if some details appear familiar, they probably are. Apologies that this will be massively long.

Basically: DP thinks - the thinks part is crucial - that when he was a child MIL sexually abused him. What he remembers are events where boundaries were crossed/ things were weird or inappropriate, but nothing that could definitely classed as deliberate, definitive abuse, rather than her just having very poor boundaries.

He has massive gaps in his memory, had huge issues around sex and intimacy which we're slowly getting to grips with, and, what is crucial for me, is that as teenager, when he says he can remember remembering more than he can now, though not what he remembered, iyswim, he believed the abuse happened. He is though not 100% sure. I am fairly sure it did happen.

MIL comes across as normal, niceish, if massively self-centred. We now have a small DS and let her have contact with him on the basis that it might not be true, but on the basis that it may be we absolutely never will leave him alone with her or let her babysit, (something I'm increasingly running out of excuses for but that's a whole other thread.)

What is currently exercising me is that I recently became aware that she regularly babysits for two small boys who are the children of younger friends of hers. I found this out entirely by chance and have no idea what to do. We sort of know them - as in could get in touch - and I really want to tell them, as if I was leaving DS with someone who someone else strongly believed was capable of such a thing I'd want to know. I suggested to DP that I go and see the wife of this couple - tell her the whole story in confidence, including that DP isn't sure it's true, and leave the ball in their court. DP totally flipped out. He's terrified they'd go to the police which he'd find extremely awkward (he is a policeman, small force, at least some of his colleagues would be bound to find out). He's of course also worried about the fallout within the family. He's horrified at the idea of people - anyone - knowing. Especially as he slightly doubts himself.

He is also, I think, furious with himself though for not doing something about it, now and before now - he once said to me when really quite drunk that he feels so weak, as he asks people professionally to do what he can't do himself, and stand up and publicly name their abusers.

Anyway the conversation about this babysitting freaked him out so much that I haven't raised it since but it's massively playing on my mind. I think if I just did it and somehow told them it would be an enormous betrayal of trust, and he would perhaps quite rightly not forgive me. Equally I feel like by doing nothing we are potentially enormously letting down two little boys. Equally, we could be spreading what would effectively be awful, malicious lies about a perfectly nice woman. He is paralysed, and I feel like I have to just make the decision. I can't.

Help?

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NewEraNewMindset · 06/11/2014 19:13

I think the Mother of the little boys need to know. I also think it has to be a face to face meeting and it has to be the truth.

State it as you have stated it on here. Your DH has hazy memories surrounding his upbringing that may or may not include sexual boundaries being overstepped. His brother is no contact but won't divulge why and because of this ambiguity you have made the decision to not allow your child in your MILs care on her own.

It is then up to them what they decide to do and if it opens a can of worms then maybe that can needs opening.

InSuchAState · 06/11/2014 19:59

More great advice and things to think about, thank you. I asked DP earlier if we could talk about this as he's off today and tomorrow and from his reaction I think he had genuinely forgotten. He said yes, but then carried on what he was doing and I think has now forgotten/ deliberately forgotten again. I understand why he's putting off the discussion but this is so difficult!

Incidentally, I agree with the posters who've said re other parents may well not be put off by just hearing about the other things. After all, she's unlikely to be in a position to lie about their DC's illnesses etc etc, and it could all be minimised and risks sounding like DP is just resentful of his mother and trying to ruin things for her, rather than that we are genuinely concerned about their DC coming to serious harm.

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kiritekanawa · 06/11/2014 20:01

InSuchAState/mummyrunnerbean -

These people might be able to help re long term counselling. They apparently will do sessions of counselling over skype for those not living in London.

www.oneinfour.org.uk/

statementtotheedge · 07/11/2014 00:03

The police federation may be able to provide independent counselling via a benevolent fund?

It sounds really tough x

pebblepots · 07/11/2014 00:33

I think NewEra has it

cookiefiend · 07/11/2014 00:37

I know this is really hard for him. Can he try considering, in a detached way, what he would say to someone in his position if he were dealing with them professionally. Would he advise them to speak up to protect other children from the experiences he had?

It must be very difficult for you all.

vm1234 · 07/11/2014 12:24

I too am so sorry you are going through this and I had to write something rather than read and run. I think you have to say something, otherwise it will play on your conscience and I fear you'll never be able to shake it off. The above post that said what's the worse that could happen then work backwards is good advice. I think that puts it into perspective. As for your husband he has huge support in you, by you coming on here it is a great first step to actually stating to deal with it. He must get support so he can try to move on and hopefully not let his past define him. I think either talk to his mother or cut ties. What about moving away?

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