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hit by a train....

30 replies

perrysands · 13/10/2014 13:32

Hi All

My amazing, caring supportive DH , has been messaging multiple other woman, sexual messages & he is signed up to multiple casual sex sites for the whole time we have been together (Ten years)

I am floored ,I never had any indication of this, he is not glued to this phone any more than normal ,he doesnt mind me using it, we share the PC

We do almost 50/50 housework childcare. We are a team or that is what we would call us.
We spend loads of time together and hardly ever argue, sex life is really good too.

Up to now I could honestly say this was the best relationship I have ever had, and I have been around a while.

He does not know I know yet as I am trying to get all my ducks in a row first.

so my question is seriously WTF is he a psychopath as he has never given me any outward reason to think he is doing this???

OP posts:
JimmyChoosChimichanga · 13/10/2014 13:34

Is it definitely him?

PoppyField · 13/10/2014 13:36

Hi Perry,
Goodness what a shock. I don't have any advice. Just wanted to show up and send support. You must feel so betrayed. It is a betrayal. How did you find out?
Poppy

Quitelikely · 13/10/2014 13:36

How did you find out?

Fontella · 13/10/2014 13:37

How did you discover this OP?

perrysands · 13/10/2014 13:38

Yes it is him,it's across his face-book twitter and hook up sites dear lord who is he.....

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JustSpeakSense · 13/10/2014 13:38

I'm so sorry you are going through this Flowers what an A+ arsehole! Unfortunately the relationship board is full of similar stories, where people thought they knew their long term partners only to be blindsided by something like this!

Stay strong
Get your ducks in a row (as you've said you are doing)
Get some RL support
And stay on here, you will get loads of support and advice.

How did you find out OP?

JustSpeakSense · 13/10/2014 13:40

Oh and....screen shot & copy all evidence before you tell him you know!

Jan45 · 13/10/2014 13:41

Seems he has been living a double life, on the premise you'd never find out, ten years of distrust is pretty much irreparable I'd say, ducks in a row for sure.

PoppyField · 13/10/2014 13:41

Second that about RL support. Phone your mum or your best mate and get someone round. Get someone to hold your hand/hold onto in RL. You'll feel much better.

CogitoErgoSometimes · 13/10/2014 13:41

Who he is is a man that has created an illusion of trustworthiness in order to mask a secret. Facebook and Twitter are public platforms so he's been taking a calculated risk that you weren't curious enough to investigate. Which for 10 years you haven't been.

What made you look this time?

Lioninthesun · 13/10/2014 13:43

I had this with an ex who was addicted to very weird porn. We were all set to marry that summer and had a mortgage/talking kids etc. Sadly you won't be able to go back to how you were, as you now feel you don't know him at all.

Gather evidence for yourself, as he will try to say it is all in your mind/you are mental/paranoid etc. In dark days when you realise you are low and wonder if you did the right thing you will need something physical to look at to remind you what a knob jockey he really is.

Please do see this is not a reflection on you. It took me a long time to regain confidence (in my case his porn had an element of eating in it and I suffered badly with body image and even ability to physically eat without feeling sick) but you need to see this as his problem, his insecurity and deviance and not something that you put in action in any way. Try to gather RL support and do things as slowly as you need to. If you need legal advice go for a free 30min session with the best solicitor in town before you let on you know - he then can't grab the best while you flounder. Sorry if that is all a bit blazee - don't mean to be but trying to be practical for you. Good luck.

perrysands · 13/10/2014 13:54

Thanks everyone this is what I need at the moment as I have no RL support.

I found out by seeing spam messages in my other folder total unrelated but I thought I would check his to see if he had any and kaboom one site lead to another...

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butterbeerfloat · 13/10/2014 13:57

Heartbreaking Sad
Sorry to hear about this awful discovery perry
Flowers sorry I've got no better advice than anything that's already said but here for support!

butterbeerfloat · 13/10/2014 14:00

Is the content weird? Like something he feels ashamed to desire so can't suggest to you? Could it be an addiction?
I can never understand how men that are so happy outwardly can be covering up such damaging shit as this.

Lioninthesun · 13/10/2014 14:35

Sadly with these men the grass is always greener. I still get messages from my ex and he is married (very quickly after I left as well - 4months!) saying he still loves me and never meant to hurt me. At the start of our relationship I found him messaging his ex (who was obviously a bitch according to him - just ever so polite and nice to him in email, seemingly Hmm ) and we split for that but I took him back. Turns out he can't help himself and always will need a back-up plan. You deserve more than this.

perrysands · 13/10/2014 14:47

No nothing weird just addicted or ego boost ,I don't know or care tbhHmm

It is just wrong wrong wrong

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ThatFire · 13/10/2014 14:49

Ugh. All I can say is, I know how you feel.

butterbeerfloat · 13/10/2014 14:53

Wtf is wrong with all these cheating arseholes!? Angry seriously!

mammadiggingdeep · 13/10/2014 16:36

So sorry op.

You say you have no rl support. Can you tell somebody in rl? Do you have family?

Well done for getting your ducks in a row before confronting. Screen shot as he might deny and delete and that can be very frustrating when you know what you saw.

Be kind to yourself, take a day at a time.

CogitoErgoSometimes · 13/10/2014 16:49

"Wtf is wrong with all these cheating arseholes!? "

Mostly it's self-indulgence, lack of self-restraint and acting on impulse. If there's something fun on offer, why not give it a whirl? Gambling, sex, driving too fast. I don't think the full consequences get thought through very often. They live in the present as long as the present feels good, let's not bother about the future.

LynneTheSecretary · 13/10/2014 16:51

I am not sure if this post will be any help to you, but I will write it anyway.

My ex was married, also for 10 years, to a woman he claims he loved very much.

Throughout their 10 year marriage, he was unfaithful. Both with other women and even prostitutes. As well as doing that, he was also a member of numerous sexy chat sites, adult dating sites and webcam sites.

He would also have been described as your DH was as an amazing, caring and supportive DH. His ex wife left him because she fell in love with someone else, and she felt very guilty about that because she knew how much my ex loved her (she was unaware of his antics) and she thought it would kill him.

To this day, she does not know the truth of what she was married to.

My ex confessed this to me and I am ashamed to say that I fell for his bull shit and stayed with him anyway. He was, as I said amazing and caring and sweet and gentle and his confession came because he said he "wanted no secrets between us" and he tearfully admitted all of this to me but claimed, very convincingly that he;d done this because he had a much higher sex drive than she did.

I will tell you two things.

The first is that after we split up, although we had a very adventurous and active sex life I found out he had done much the same to me. The truth was it didn't matter that every month I had a new outfit from Ann Summers or that we still have sex 4 or 5 times a week. He just needed that element of sneaking around and filth in his life. He was just built that way and he was capable of lying to his nearest and dearest without flinching.

The second is that after we split up he confessed he'd always loved his ex wife more, and missed here enormously after 8 years apart.

What I am trying to say to you is that:

  1. Sometimes seemingly lovely people can do stuff like this without you ever knowing it. They are just capable of it and who knows why. He will continue to do it, probably always and you not knowing doesn't make you a fool. It's all about HIM and his lack of morals and honesty.
  1. It doesn't mean he doesn't love you enormously. Some people are capable of loving others and behaving like this. Not something I understand, but having witnessed it I know it's true.

I loved my ex a lot, but looking back I with I had LTB when he confessed this to me. I was in love, I thought he was great, he seemed so sincere but the truth was he was CAPABLE of it. Right under her nose.

Disgusting really.

Is that who you want to grow old with?

Jan45 · 13/10/2014 17:00

It doesn't mean he doesn't love you enormously

Sorry I think it means the opposite, if you are happy with your partner you don't even think about looking elsewhere.

LynneTheSecretary · 13/10/2014 17:10

I don't think that's true. I would have agreed with you until I saw it. My ex loves, misses his ex wife constantly. Never got over her leaving him YET he did this as well.

People love in diferrent ways. This type of love (complete with hiding things, being deceptive, seeking sexual thrills outside the marriage) was the most my ex was capable of. He could love someone to the moon and back and would still do that.

Perhaps something is deficient in these people, as I personally could not treat someone I loved like that. Perhaps they love in a selfish way. I don't understand the psychology.

The point I was making to the OP is that she might be the woman of his dreams, perfect in every way and he would still act like this.

Jan45 · 13/10/2014 17:14

If that is true then such men need to get themselves booked in for serious counselling, no man or woman for that matter has the urge to have sex so desperately that they are prepared to risk everything for a sexual thrill, they do it because they are not satisfied with their lot, even if their lot is the best they could wish for.

Meerka · 13/10/2014 17:18

it's the adrenaline hit for a lot of them I think. Nothing can replace that, for them

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