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Freeloading abusive ex - stuck in the same house but he won't pay

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knotswapper · 09/10/2014 07:29

I've realised that DP is very abusive and a very unpleasant man - I've read Lundy and done the Freedom program and have long since stopped trying to understand/minimise/engage.

For visa reasons however, we have to live together. I've been in a separate room for a few years. He still makes life difficult if I try to go out and likes to kick off from time to time because he'a narcissistic abusive cockwomble (I've pre-empted what you'll call him there).

My problem is money. He just won't pay towards DD or the household bills. I need to be putting money aside so when our visa situation is fixed and we don't have to be at the same address I can get out and support DD.

I've tried and tried to get him to pay but he just refuses to engage - he screams abuse at me and walks off. Yesterday I called him on it (again) when he said he "couldn't afford" to pay for something. I said his finances weren't my problem and that as an adult he should take responsibility for his financial commitments. He just yelled that I would find that it was my problem actually and walked off. He has a really nasty bared teeth snarl he uses when I say something he doesn't like.

I managed, by a certain amount of trickery, to get him to pay the electricity bill for the first time in 7 or 8 years this year. He yells and screams that he pays the electricity bill and that he's not going to contribute to anything else because he's paying for that. It's immaterial that I've paid all of the utilities for several years, and that he's used paying this one thing as an excuse not to pay for anything else over and over again.

He doesn't pay a penny towards DD, her clothes, food, any activities/music lessons, school lunches, the car that we need to get her to school/fuel/insurance, Sky TV, water bill etc. I've bought all of the furniture, paid the deposit on the house, tvs, fridge - everything. He just simply won't put his hand in his pocket and short of getting hold of his online bank account and transferring it myself I can't force him to hand over the money. If I get him thrown out of the house for domestic abuse, then I will invalidate my visa status and I will have to leave.

Another concern is that when I do leave, he will be able to justify not paying for DD on the basis that he never has, or will even attempt to get money from me.

I'm not sure that anybody can fix this tbh or offer helpful advice, but it's just so frustrating. If he contributed his fair share then I would be able put a fair bit aside - where we are there is no safety net, I would get no government help here or back in the UK as I haven't paid into the system there in the last three years.

If I were in the UK I would have thrown him out and hauled his arse through court with a rottweiler of a solicitor, but I have to get the visas sorted first - will probably take several more months.

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knotswapper · 15/10/2014 02:42

Gaia - I've already spoken with George Lombard Smile, but thank you, that's really good advice to have on the thread. Yes, it's a 457 and it's one of the visa categories which falls through the gaps. The government are being lobbied to make changes, but nothing is happening at the moment.

MargaretRiver that's a really good question (so much to think about!). As far as I understand, the PR just gives us indefinite leave to remain in Australia. We are still UK nationals and I can remove DD if necessary - DP has no parental responsibility over her as she was born before December 1st 2003, we were unmarried and he didn't fill in the necessary paperwork. He would have to go to court in the UK to change this. If we became Australian citizens, that would change however.

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knotswapper · 15/10/2014 03:10

Oh and I've made sure that DP can't flee the country with DD to punish me. They a) have different surnames, which would trigger an alert and b) I have the passports and birth certificates under lock and key.

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SanityClause · 15/10/2014 20:37

Thinking of you knotswapper.

My heart leapt when I saw gaia's post, but it sounds like its a cul de sac you've already been down. Sad

At the very least, it sounds like if you do leave Australia, The Hague convention won't kick in.

knotswapper · 16/10/2014 03:46

Thank you sanity and thank you too digger for being there during the "proper" Wink day.

I'm flying to Melbourne tomorrow on business and I wasn't going to mention it to him as I will leave early as usual with DD and still be back before he gets home from the pub work. I realised that if we crashed that might cause much confusion if nobody knew where I was so said to him this morning that I am flying tomorrow - literally "Just so you know I am taking a flight to Melbourne tomorrow"

Immediately he went off one one about how I'm going for a job interview in Melbourne (the implication being that I would get a job and move there with DD) and muttering/ranting under his breath in a completely irrational way. Once he gets something into his head then there is no alternative truth. He's completely impossible to talk to.

I texted him too (so it's on record) to say that if he is no longer prepared to pay towards getting DD from school (he hasn't paid his share for 5 weeks now) he must advise me how he plans to get her from there at 3.15 and to her after school activities 3x per week. He has no car "because he doesn't need one". So I'm interested to see how that pans out. I can't pick up as I work full time - if I didn't do the drop off at 8.15 I could get to work early enough to get her, but I can't do both ends of the day.

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ememem84 · 16/10/2014 06:55

Good luck op. I hope everything works out for you. Stay strong.

I'd suggest taking him off car insurance etc. And just making things a bit more difficult. Do you need sky? Could you cancel it and save a little bit if cash? Second just buying what you and dd need every day food wise.

Could you move done things into storage so he has no access?

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