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DH has just stormed out

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cardamomginger · 05/10/2014 18:22

There is a long backstory to all of this, and I'm trying to get DD sorted, so this may inadvertently end up being a bit of a drip feed, but I will do my best to get everything down.

DH and I have not been getting along well for a long time. There have been lots of stresses and strains in the last 6 years or so including his redundancy, thinking we were going to need IVF, me sustaining multiple serious birth injuries when I had DD 4 years ago and needing 5 operatons. All in all it's been pretty shit.

Be all that as it may, DH, whilst he is good in a crisis, he is pretty crap on the day to day stuff. He doesn't really seem to want to do stuff with me, and has tended to view me as a bit of an inconvenience. For the last few year he has worked long hours, including when he has been at home, and has also chosen other projects to work on (more on this later) and when he's not doing either of these, he chooses to sit in his office and watch Top Gear or other similar stuff on his computer. Never a question of doing anything with me. I've now given up and no longer ask.

One of these additional projects has been the renovation of the house we now live in. He insisted, and with absolutely no discussion of the subject with me after we purchased this house, on designing the entire think himself. It was a massive project - changing a small 3 bed semi plus garage into a 5 bed with a 2-storey wrap around side extension and a loft conversion. He wanted it to be 'perfect' and trusts no one, so he decided to do the whole thing himself. Despite the fact he has no training. To cut a ling story short, it took 4 and a half years from purchase to moving in. If he had employed people to assist, we could have shaved 18 months to 2 years off this. During this time, we were living in his tiny 1.5 bed flat. I got pregnant, we had DD, I was very ill with my injuries. She was over 3 when we moved out. Throughout he has been almost revolutionary in his zeal about this. The end - ie.e the perfect - justifies all means and all pain and inconvenience. My thoughts, opinions and desires werenever asked for and were ignored when given. Yes, he will say that he has consulted me. And he has. About paint finishes and the like. But not about any of the major procedural decisions. When we moved in, and I foudn the whole thing quite emotional and difficult, he asked me what my problem was because he had 'given' me a house.

So we have been in since January and the perfect house is very far from it in many ways. One key problem is that the wall of glass he deisgned at the rear lets in huge amounts of sunshine meaning the rooms at the back become very incomfortable and stifling. Another problem is that the windows he chose are very hard to fit blinds or curtains - the size, the structure, the materials used. It's a nightmare.

We finally found a blind that woudl work on at least some of these windows. Rather than going through a company that would measure, design and fit, he wanted to do it himself dircectly with a manufacturer. Well, we have had them here for a couple of months now (another gripe I have is that he has no time to finish things - which is fine, but then why insist on doing it all yourself in the first place?). He came to fit them this afternoon and they are 15 cm too short. The too-sort measurement is stated on the packaging and on the order confirmation. They are made to measure.

I flipped. All the angst and frankly anger over this whole bloody house fiasco came out. Why didn't he check? Why does it all have to take so much time because he wants to do it all himself? We still have no other blinds or curtains in anyof the rooms, and it is drving me nuts. But, no, DH has to sort it all out himself in excruciatingly minute detail and it doesn't matter how long everyone has to wait. He got really angry. Why can't I be supportive? And he stormed out of the house.

DD was very distressed and tried to run after him. She calmed down quite quickly, but I foud her reaction pretty hard to take (although perfectly understandable). DH is back now. He's not spoken to me, but has spent time with DD.

I'm still having trauma therapy for all the birth related stuff. I've been aware for about a year now that at some point i HAVE to DO something about the relationship. Whether it is to try and mend it via counselling or to try and end it. I've been too scared to make that move. Even going for counselling feels like too much. I just don't have the strength right now. Feels like a gaping chasm and I just can't go there yet.

Don't know what will happen after this row. I'm sure I am expected to apologise, say how wrong I was, and that yes of course I understand and of course I support him 100%. But that would all be a lie.

Have to be with DD and watch Frozen now. She needs some fuss. If I'm not back for a bit, I haven't gone AWOL. Thanks for reading, if you've got this far.

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WhenSheWasBadSheWasHorrid · 05/10/2014 19:26

Oh poor you. He does sound like a knob. He actually sounds a bit like my dh although much worse

Is there any hope for changing him, my dh has a similar I want to do if myself attitude.

He was a nightmare when I was pregnant as I didn't have the energy or brains to discuss things properly. I have to be very assertive with him and remind him that we are a team.

Is there any hope for the relationship

scarletforya · 05/10/2014 19:29

Leave him in his fish bowl.

livelablove · 05/10/2014 19:36

I agree it sounds like he is living in a sort of fantasy land. I bet if you asked him he would think you were happy with most things and maybe just the health problems are bothering you.

Littleturkish · 05/10/2014 19:37

Oh my love this sounds so desperate.

I also found myself lost in a marriage to someone who didn't actually like me, and the subsequent damage that this did to my self esteem I still feel now. The best thing I did was to ask him to leave, and then move out myself once I got myself sorted financially.

I would suggest seeking legal advice, and breaking this down to stage by stage. What do you need to do to extract yourself from this relationship? Once it's planned out, it seems less daunting. Definitely get separate counselling to deal with the emotional upheaval of ending the relationship.

I stalled for a year, and only made things worse for myself. You know things are deeply wrong, you sound very unhappy. If your DD was living with someone who made her feel like this, you would never think it was good enough for her; it isn't good enough for you either, leave and be happy.

BitterAndOnlySlightlyTwisted · 05/10/2014 19:42

Perhaps things might be made more tolerable if you had A Plan. Like finishing your studies, getting your little one into full-time school and finding yourself some employed. It might make things slightly easier if you were working towards getting free of him, I dunno.

cardamomginger · 05/10/2014 19:45

Random - good question how and why did this happen. Partly shit role model from parents (it was awful awful awful - mother was worst kind of narc, pa, father would enable whatever the cost). And yes that is a bloody good reason to not put DD through this. Also, just being ground down by him for so long. And the impact of dd's birth, my injuries and the gruelling surgery and treatment has no doubt played a part. I was severely mesed up.

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cardamomginger · 05/10/2014 19:53

Bitter. I was just downstairs putting something in the oven (he's put all the blinds up anyway) and thought: Right. A PLAN!!!! I've had the name of a solicitor for a while now. I'm almost finished learning to drive. That needs to happen. And I need a car. We need to get DD's school decided. I need another check up with surgeon and need to know all is OK (this is all on DJ's work's health insurance, and no I can't go NHS as I won't get to my consultant). I do need to finish MPhil. I'm feeling horribly unemployable (one of the things that scares me most), and the MPhil project is extremely practical and could put me in a better position. And I want to be done with the trauma stuff, so I can concentrate on other stuff.

Part of me thinks this is just a delaying tactic. Part of me thinks it is sensible.

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longest · 05/10/2014 19:56

It is sensible, but make sure you stick to it. Don't let it slide.

EhricLovesTheBhrothers · 05/10/2014 19:57

How do you think your DD will fare growing up in a house where nobody is allowed to have a view that contradicts father's? It's a dictatorship and you and your daughter will be collateral damage. Your daughter's self esteem will be irreparably damaged if she has to go through her adolescence being stifled by this petty autocrat.

cardamomginger · 05/10/2014 19:57

That's the worry!!

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RandomMess · 05/10/2014 19:59

It gives you time to squirrel away money if getting your hands on cash is an issue.

Please use it as time to build your confidence and work with your therapist to see what you need and want in life. I would look at the freedom programme perhaps so you don't make the same mistake in your next choice of partner.

BitterAndOnlySlightlyTwisted · 05/10/2014 20:07

Darling, I suggested a plan because it gives you time to figure out where you will go and how. You could pack a bag tomorrow when he's out at work but that wouldn't be very sensible when you've got so much other stuff in progress. Having a plan might make the present appear slightly more tolerable while you get your ducks in a row.

The usual advice for a spouse preparing to leave is to garner copies of all documentation you can get your hands on relating to income, bank accounts, savings, investments, all that.

Selfish, controlling men are the most likely to resent your departure and hide assets if they can so you should prepare for that eventuality.

LaCerbiatta · 05/10/2014 20:15

Does he work? You said he was made redundant. Has he been out of a job all these years and took on the house as his project, to make him feel like he had a purpose?
Just trying to see the other side of the picture....

LaCerbiatta · 05/10/2014 20:18

Just read that you're using his work health insurance so I probably got it a bit wrong in my pp..... Apologies!

cardamomginger · 05/10/2014 20:23

He worked for an American company that went chapter 11. He got 'sold' as part of a settlement and was never happy or used that well in the new role. He took a very good package, then became a consultant and now works for the company he consulted to.
He's never been not working, but there was a lot of uncertainty and worry. His pension also got screwed.
I think he does need to have a purpose though. And he does need approval.

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cardamomginger · 05/10/2014 20:24

Bitter - thank you x

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cardamomginger · 05/10/2014 20:25

I saw that freedom thingy mentioned on another thread here. Off to google

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Travelledtheworld · 05/10/2014 20:37

It all sounds terrible. Good luck with the plan.
BTW a few years ago I bought a house from a bloke who didn't like curtains in the bedroom. He turned out to be a pervert. Used to parade around naked. Exposed himself to one of the neighbours teenag daughters. Very nasty.
Not suggesting your is one, but you never know.

Travelledtheworld · 05/10/2014 20:41

PS my DH is a total tightwad and tries to do all sort of DIY projects himself. He has finally grasped the concept that he earns big bucks and then PAYS a professional to do the job in a quarter of the time.

One year he thiugh he would install a new gas central heating boiler himself .....my BiL said "FGS tell him the house insurance will not be valid if he blows the house up " and he did give in and employ a Gas Safe registered plumber.

Otherwise I just get a tradesman lined up for when he is abroad on a business trip. He think I decorated two massive bedrooms last year. Lol

Bassnotreble · 05/10/2014 20:52

Oh god this sounds so familiar op. Renovating a house, total control over the project, not allowing help, I was allowed no opinion, the arrogance and need to be right.

It ended badly for me when we separated so make sure you are prepared for that. These kinds of men can be nasty in divorce (but can't see it because they know they're right.)

cardamomginger · 05/10/2014 21:45

Travelled: Grin!
Bass: yeah, I am prepared for that. Have lined up a shit hot solicitor who got a friend through a horrific divorce and custody battle. Are you OK now?

Have headache, am reeling, and need to not 'do' this any more tonight. Thank you so much to everyone for offering advice and support. Night night. Might see you in the morning. XX

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cardamomginger · 05/10/2014 21:45

PS. God I LOVE Mumsnet Smile.

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TheSilveryPussycat · 05/10/2014 22:04

I am an old gimmer, and my DH was like that. Growing up in a small house in the 50's and 60's we always had one room out of commission while DF spent precious weekends preparing and decorating one or other room - years with no living room, then years with no dining room. I thought this was normal, though as I got older began to wonder why someone couldn't be paid.

A kind man underneath, he did not really understand that others' thinking might differ from his, and eventually my DM walked away.

TheSilveryPussycat · 05/10/2014 22:04

DF NOT DH (how Freudian is that?)

MoJangled · 06/10/2014 00:10

Sounds like your DH could be another candidate for an aspergers diagnosis to me. The lack of understanding/tolerance of other people's views, and the slightly weird obsessive interest and not really grasping the big picture all point in that direction.

Good luck with your Plan!