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Is this a non-starter or am I being paranoid?

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Littlefluffyclouds81 · 09/09/2014 22:19

I met a guy online and we have been seeing each other for 3 months.

We have loads in common, and get on really well. We have similar views and opinions on most things, and he is successful within his profession with a nice house etc. He has 2 dc (as do I), and he is absolutely devoted to them and has joint residency despite them living in another country.

His dc stayed for 6 weeks over the summer, so obviously during that time we didn't see much of each other, as it's way too early for them (or mine) to know we are together. However we did meet a few times with the dc, who all just think me and him are friends.

We talk to each other pretty much every day on the phone, for around an hour usually. But here's the problem:

We hardly get any time to actually spend with each other. To begin with, apart from when his dc have been staying, we would see each other a couple of times a week. Generally, he turns up/I go to his, we drink too much wine, have sex, pass out, then in the morning he usually has to make a sharp exit to work or something (he is self employed so works irregular hours). However this seems to have petered out to once a week now, as he is busy with work or other stuff. Well that's what he says anyway, but for example on Saturday night he came over, an hour late, and said that the friend he was supposed to see that day had cancelled so he'd not really been doing much all day. And that friend had rearranged for the next day, so he had to rush off as per usual in the morning. So I got my usual 12 hour slot, over half of which we were asleep.

There's loads of stuff we haven't done. We haven't been for a meal (or anywhere public without the dc). We've never sat down and watched tv together. Normal things. We just see to drink, have sex, and sleep.

I know he is being super cautious about getting too heavy too quickly because of his dc, which I understand, and it is tricky as we are both single parents (though him only part time). But this does not follow the pattern of every other relationship I've been in, where you hit it off, then spend as much time as you can together. There's been quite a few occasions where there's been nothing to stop him jumping in the car and coming to see me, but he hasn't. It seems like his list of priorities goes like this:

  1. his dc
  2. his work
  3. his existing friends
  4. me

I feel like I just get chucked a scrap of time here and there, and I don't really matter to him that much. He doesn't give much away in terms of what he thinks/feels about me, he is very guarded like that. He was hurt very badly by his ex so I can understand that too. But it doesn't make me feel great about myself.

Is this way too early days to be worrying like this? It just doesn't feel like any other relationship I've ever been in, that said they were all car crashes so maybe that's not a bad thing. I really, really like and respect him, and worry that I am setting myself up to get hurt here. Do you reckon he's taking it slowly or genuinely not that into me?

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Littlefluffyclouds81 · 10/09/2014 14:46

Grin AnyFucker, your message made me laugh. You are absolutely right, just what I needed to hear.

Well, a bit of an update...I just got a text from him saying he's working today and will call me later. So maybe I have been a bit rash. I'm on day 3 of giving up smoking so I'm perhaps not at my most rational.

So, I do need to have a conversation with him about our expectations of this relationship. In an ideal world, I would like to see more of him, but having said that I will be at uni 5 days a week soon, so I might be glad of the fact that we only spend one night a week together! We definitely need to start doing things other then having drunken sex though.

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AnyFucker · 10/09/2014 14:55

I want a bloody dog !

Grr

Anyway, I had a feeling my bit of tough love would hit the right note Smile . You have a lot going for you. Don't let some bloke bring you down, seriously.

AnyFucker · 10/09/2014 14:57

Staring Uni=making new friends

Your life is about to get a whole lot busier. Pretty soon you won't have room for this half-hearted relationship, and he will be the one left wondering wtf happened. Bring it on.

Littlefluffyclouds81 · 10/09/2014 15:16

My dog is ace. He's 10 and has been my most loyal companion through thick and thin, we've had some right adventures. he is also dead cuddly. Better than a man, really. I think you should get a dog, AnyFucker.

Yes hopefully at uni I will make some friends, though they will probably all be 15 years younger than me :/

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AnyFucker · 10/09/2014 15:26

You will not be the only slightly older person at Uni.

I can't have a dog. Waaah. We are all out of the house for too many hours in a day.

AcrossthePond55 · 10/09/2014 16:25

I'm not one for having 'the talk' 3 months in, I think it's too soon. I'd do as others have suggested and change the focus of the relationship from sex to other activities & see how he reacts. Start with things that aren't super expensive (unless you are sure you both can afford to pay your own way) but still get you out and about. If you still want to have sex with him, fine, but just be sure that it isn't every time you see each other and that it isn't all you do. If he's resistant to doing anything other than shagging, no matter what his 'excuses', drop him. If he's not too tired (or whatever excuse) to drive an hour to see you and have a bout of the old jelly-roll, he isn't too tired to grab a quick bite somewhere, or sit on a park bench and talk, or see a movie.

Littlefluffyclouds81 · 10/09/2014 22:52

Well he phoned. To dump me.

Feeling very, very sad.

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AnyFucker · 10/09/2014 22:56

Ah well.

His loss, innit

AcrossthePond55 · 10/09/2014 23:04

Well, damn.

StickyProblem · 10/09/2014 23:09

His loss OP Flowers

Littlefluffyclouds81 · 10/09/2014 23:49

I've been crying for 2 hrs now.

Please can someone talk some sense into me?

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AnyFucker · 10/09/2014 23:50

Dry your eyes. Cuddle your doggy and go to bed. Tomorrow is another day when you have the rest of your life to look forward to.

Stop being a chump. You knew this flake for 3 months. I have yoghurts in my fridge older than that.

temporaryusername · 10/09/2014 23:51

I'm sorry OP Flowers.

He sounded a bit crap anyway Brew.

temporaryusername · 10/09/2014 23:54

Sense - this guy was obviously never going to be anything more than this. It will take time to adjust to the fact that you thought he might have been, but actually that was a fantasy version of him - he was never that person.

Onwards, upwards. You've have dumped him soon anyway because he clearly wasn't what you're looking for.

AnyFucker makes a good point. I have things that been waiting to be washed in my laundry basket since before you met this guy Blush.

AcrossthePond55 · 10/09/2014 23:59

I don't know how sensible I am but, here goes.

Let yourself cry a bit, it's OK. But remember that in the grand scheme of your life, it's only 3 months out of the many decades you have left. You may have invested a bit of your time and a little of your heart, but not years and your whole heart, life, finances, and family. And, silly as this may seem, at least he had the respect for you to call you and end it. That's better than him just dodging and not returning your calls. Cold comfort, I know, but I always appreciated it, even if it was that old 'it's not you, it's me' crap. Nothing was worse that being faced with silence & unanswered questions.

Remember, you are about to embark on a new adventure. Your studies will bring new interests (and probably people) into your life. In time, the pain will fade as it's replaced with new knowledge, friends, and experiences.

Oh yeah, in addition…fuck him, he doesn't know what he's lost!!! Grin

Go on, have some Wine and a lot of Cake. It's only a temporary fix, but it's a good one!

freeandhappy · 11/09/2014 00:00

You're much better off to be starting college - lucky you btw and congrats on the scholarship!Thanks- being free and single. Yes it's true. You'll be more open to going to stuff and meeting new people. Tis always the way when you are single that you are free to move out of your comfort zone and experiment a bit with who you let yourself be. Oh I never make any senseSmilebut I tell you I am v envious of the possibilities before you. Keep the old chin up Brew

AcrossthePond55 · 11/09/2014 00:02

Any Fucker, your tenderness and sympathy is so touching. Grin

Next time I need a kick up the arse to set me straight, I'll know right where to go!

And I mean this in the most flattering way!

AnyFucker · 11/09/2014 00:05

Happy to be of service Smile

Littlefluffyclouds81 · 11/09/2014 00:13

I am cuddling the dog, he knows I am upset, but he has hellish farts tonight so I'm not sure it's actually making me feel any better.

AnyFucker you do crack me up. I would have yoghurts older than our relationship in my fridge too, except for the fact that I recently got a new fridge. Definitely laundry lurking in the basket for longer than 3 months though.

The plant he gave me died today. Symbolic or what.

I am toying with the idea of opening the free bottle of champagne that ocado gave me. It's bloody lucky the fag shop is closed or I'd be there like a greased weasle.

I want to do something fun this weekend to cheer myself up. But I am a loser with no friends so I don't know what.

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AnyFucker · 11/09/2014 00:17

Go piss on the plant. Really kill the fucker Grin

Littlefluffyclouds81 · 11/09/2014 00:17

And yes, I am glad he had the balls to phone me and be straight up with me. He just said that he didn't see where this was going long term, that he doesn't like the way he is around me in that he keeps me at arms length and he knows that upsets me, and he didn't want to lead me on because he's just not feeling this as much as I am. But he really likes me as a person and we have a good laugh which is why it's so hard doing this blah blah blah.

Not a lot I can say to that really.

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AnyFucker · 11/09/2014 00:18

Save the bubbly until weekend and have a MN party

Littlefluffyclouds81 · 11/09/2014 00:21

AnyFucker, I really wish you could come here and drink my free champagne with me, I think you could cheer me right up.

I should piss on it. Kill that last remaining flower.

Is this a non-starter or am I being paranoid?
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AnyFucker · 11/09/2014 00:23

That plant looks very droopy

A bit soft innit ?

heh

AnyFucker · 11/09/2014 00:29

I have to go to bed now. Early start and wotnot. Take care, OP. You will be grand, I promise Thanks