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Sister and BIL difficulties - how to cope for another week?

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HupsyDaisy · 10/08/2014 15:25

Apologies - this might be a long one. We have been here three weeks and i need help to manage just one more week please.

  • single mum of three small dcs, 2 years out of abusive marriage but stbxh still very manipulative, sis bil and baby in USA
  • both sis and bil asked me to come and visit this summer, bil because he wanted support with allegedly boozing sis, sis because she is not happy and doesn't know why, we would rent a summer place together as their apt is tiny
  • cannot really afford it, but want to be there for them if they are both reaching out, know how hard it is with little ones, research cheap rentals which are payable, don't get any response other than that those places are not child friendly and they are looking into other options, they urge to book flights, offer to pay mine, if i pay for dc flights, i am nervous without guaranteed accomodation (no way could i afford hotels on top of flights), but book. Week later/ week before we arrive turns out they are giving up apt and moving to the summer house they have found while we are there. Didn't want to tell me until certain.
  • got here and i have never felt so unwelcome. They complain about the noise from the dcs," feels like non stop screaming", "you could not take your dcs anywhere else", random friend of theirs "is better with kids than you are", they "know it is hard for me" but feel entitled to shout at my kids to wash hands, for bad table manners, getting up before everyone including v slow baby has finished etc or even interrupt sternly when I am talking to them. They have shouted at me too. I accept small baby phase is quiet, but bil has two dc from first marriage, maybe he has forgotten about children's noise. I cannot put anything down in the kitchen for more than a minute as bil crazy tidy and it is their house so i have to do what they say. I cannot make plans as bil does not make any and sis doesn't mind being ad hoc. Bils family have told me how much sis was drinking, but they had it on say so from bil, and the only person i see drinking is bil, up to a bottle a night, every night, sis has not touched a drink. I have told sis the odd controlling thing my ex used to do to me, she just ignores it, won't talk at all except to criticise me, won't leave the baby with me (I offer, to give them a break).
  • so far i have dealt with it by liberal use of the ipad until we can get out of the house, taking myself and dc out whenever I can, researching own destinations from middle of nowhere, cheap as possible, (we have had a blast), still get grief for not being home in time for supper sometimes, though supper together had not been agreed as they didn't not what they were doing yet. Mornings a nightmare as dc take a while to get up and out, falling foul of their lie-in (we must be extra quiet, though we did not know about it) or early cooked breakfast (we must attend, though we did not know about it).
  • feels a lot like my marriage, this walking on eggshells business. Now pretty low on funds, and it is so hot i cannot take the dc to the beach all day. I will manage somehow - but do you think there is anything i can do to change my current mindset of: never ever am I going on holiday with them again! And: beam me home Scottie!
Thanks for reading.
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HupsyDaisy · 15/08/2014 02:24

Hehe. We're four in a bed, not that different from camping...
Seriously, thank you all for the support and especially to the pps who invited me for picnic/ builders tea. Grin

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Sleepyfergus · 15/08/2014 06:22

Well done you! Hoe you're enjoying being able to do what you want, when you want and however loudly you want! What did your BIL and Sis say when you up and left?

mrselizabethdarcy · 15/08/2014 06:58

Well done. Now you can enjoy the rest of your holiday.

tribpot · 15/08/2014 07:43

Thank goodness you're out! Don't underestimate the stress of having to be out all day!

HupsyDaisy · 16/08/2014 16:40

Hmm. I have a feeling sis has gone NC on me SadSad

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AttilaTheMeerkat · 16/08/2014 16:44

In time you will come to think of that action as doing you a big favour. Infact she may well not go NC for long, she will come crawling back soon enough when she or her stbxh decides that she/they need you again to berate.

Its no big loss to you honestly given what you put up with from the two of them this past week or so.

eddielizzard · 16/08/2014 17:00

what happened? did you move out early and find somewhere else?

yes, i think your sis will go nc because to stay in contact means she'll have to acknowledge just how fucked up it all is.

tribpot · 18/08/2014 13:00

Assume you are now back in the UK (frying pan and fire come to mind) but hope you are pleased to be home.

It's possible your sister has been forbidden to contact you if you left on bad terms.

HupsyDaisy · 18/08/2014 23:36

Yes we're back and happily had a nice couple of hours with sis before we left. I brought some flowers as a thank you and pretended none of this had happened. She took us to the airport made sure we got on the plane and said thank you for coming. It's a start. Must keep eyes on my long term goal: good relationship with sis.

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AttilaTheMeerkat · 19/08/2014 07:31

Long term goal - good relationship with sis?. After all they've done?. You think she will ever change?.

Relationships are two way; you cannot maintain a relationship on your own. You now need to thoroughly re-examine your own relationship with your sister now as well as raising your already all too low boundaries re her. Your sister should be trying to have a good relationship with you, problem is she cannot really be bothered and she and her own abuser used you as a convenient distraction for all their problems.

Do you have rescuer and or saviour tendencies; these need to be addressed now by you because they will try and do this to you again otherwise.

"I brought some flowers as a thank you and pretended none of this had happened".

Two errors of judgment right there, why on earth did you buy her (apology) flowers after all the crap she and her man had put you all through?. She also did her own bit of brushing it all under the carpet as well by thanking you all for coming.

HupsyDaisy · 21/08/2014 07:33

Well, no one is perfect, least of all me, and if something happens to me down the line, I'd hope she'd be in a good place and there for my DC.

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AttilaTheMeerkat · 21/08/2014 07:43

Yes but how likely really is that to happen?. I doubt very much your sister would be in any position at all to support you even in that scenario. Last week these two shouted at you all.

You and she have had abusive relationships which makes me wonder what you yourself learnt about relationships from your own parents when growing up.

HupsyDaisy · 22/08/2014 14:06

Yes, well that's another topic! Another time....
Thx all

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