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New partner still friends with person they had affair with and I feel insecure

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InsecureAffair · 16/07/2014 11:25

Have name changed so as easily identifiable and could have repercussions for third parties.

So - in a nutshell - I'm in a new relationship (3 months), with another woman (I've dated men and women in the past, but now identify mostly as gay). Having a really nice time, all going really well, lots in common, same goals etc.

However - an issue has recently come up and I don't know how to handle it. Last year my girlfriend had an affair with her male, married boss (she's also dated both men and women in the past but similarly now identifies as gay). The affair lasted around 6 months, he wanted to leave his wife for her, she said no, the affair ended and they continue to work together (though in different locations) and remain "friends". This wasn't a particular issue for me (I'm no angel, though do draw the line at affairs) as everyone has stuff that's happened in the past that in retrospect, wasn't the greatest idea.

Unfortunately, last week, the wife found out about the affair (I don't know the details. Don't know if the man told the wife, I suspect he did). We were on holiday together last week, having a lovely time, when, on the last night of the holiday she gets a text from him, telling her not to check Facebook or LinkedIn and that his wife knows and sorry if he's buggering up her holiday. She told me about the text and the situation. She says she wants to be honest, that she really cares about me and doesn't want to hide things. I feel that the information is something I could have done without, that it makes me feel insecure and serves no purpose. I also think that he is jealous of me, stirring and somehow dragging me into all of this.

The wife then tried to add my girlfriend as a Facebook friend (presumably to rant). Girlfriend obviously rejected request. She is still in touch daily with her ex-lover (he's her boss, so I suppose she can't really ignore him). She is hopefully moving jobs to a new firm soon (well, in the Autumn), so that's a help, BUT, I'm feeling horribly insecure. Girlfriend is very sweet, very nice and never wants to hurt anyone. She feels sorry for her boss and thinks he needs friends. I think her boss sounds like a manipulative twat (he's 20 years older than her, has three children) and I wish she'd cut contact.

I don't really know what to do. I don't want to walk away. But I don't want to feel insecure and under threat from this guy, even though I know they're not together anymore, he clearly still has feelings for her. I can hardly start issuing ultimatums at this stage of a relationship. I don't want to be possessive. But having had such a blissful three months, I really don't know how to deal with this.

Apologies for essay - any advice welcome please.

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InsecureAffair · 16/07/2014 11:43

Dignified exit may be sensible. Or more communication, explaining how I feel and that I can't be dealing with all of this? Ball is then in her court as to whether she wants to stay friends with him or be with me?

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ParadoxicalUndressing · 16/07/2014 11:45

Girlfriend is very sweet, very nice [...] She feels sorry for her boss and thinks he needs friends

Clearly she thought he needed more than 'friends'. I wonder if she'll jump into the bed of the next person she feels sorry for.

3PacketsOfCrisps · 16/07/2014 11:46

Hi Insecure, did she not mention any of this prior to receiving the message on holiday?

I am in a relationship with another woman, many years ago I had an affair with a girl who I am still very good friends with. Nothing going on as I am happy in my relationship.

Hope this helps?

ParadoxicalUndressing · 16/07/2014 11:47

Ball is then in her court as to whether she wants to stay friends with him or be with me?

This man is her boss. Do you think she will quit her job for you?

InsecureAffair · 16/07/2014 11:50

I might be being naive. It's possible. But she's really is sweet. In mitigation, she's only slept with 5 guys in her life (and she's mid-30s), so not sure she will jump into bed with others just yet. I think she's keen to please everyone and doesn't ever want to be the bad guy. I appreciate that makes me sound like an apologist for her and possibly deluded.

Thing is, I've met her friends, am meeting her parents in a couple of weeks, have been on holiday with her - I really don't think she has any intention of sleeping with her boss again. I just wish she'd never told me about it.

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InsecureAffair · 16/07/2014 11:53

3PacketsOfCrisps - thank you!

I had an affair in my 20s with a married woman. We're still friends. But she's in another relationship and so am I. Plus the affair was 13 years ago, we had a break of about 4 years with no contact, before getting back in touch. I suppose the difference with this is that her boss is still in love with her, appears to have manipulated the situation by telling his wife and brought things to a head, and I'm now being dragged in to the fall out.

She mentioned the affair before we went away. I just hadn't appreciated that it was all going to blow up like this.

She already has another job offer and was planning to quit her job when I first met her.

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ParadoxicalUndressing · 16/07/2014 11:54

Well, going back to your first post, I think you are under threat from this guy. You're also potentially under threat from his wife and, most importantly, your girlfriend.

It's a tangled web for a three month relationship. She must be really, really sweet.

Fontella · 16/07/2014 12:01

She carried on an affair with her married boss who has a wife and three children for six months? Knowing full well he was a married man with children? Knowing full well he was cheating on his wife, with her?

And you think she's really sweet?

Maybe I'm missing something but what's sweet about that?

InsecureAffair · 16/07/2014 12:08

Fair point. Sweet and naive I'd say. He spun the usual stuff about being in a miserable marriage with a wife who hated him etc. She was miserable at work. They got together. She jumped ship when he said he wanted to leave his wife.

Anyway, all valid comments and food for thought.

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NotNewButNameChanged · 16/07/2014 12:16

Always the best answer when you're in a job that makes you miserable. Sleep with your boss.

Sorry, but I can't possibly buy that she is sweet and naïve. Not bearing in mind she is mid-30s. A one-off "mistake" is one thing (both got pissed one night - although I've never got so pissed I don't know what I am doing) but to knowingly have an affair with someone you know is married and has children?

Don't buy it.

Isetan · 16/07/2014 12:31

Her affair pre-dates your relationship and she has an offer of a new job. It sounds like her ex MM contacted her to give her the heads up about the storm a brewing back home.

The only issue I see is that her 'sweetness' as you call it could just be you making excuses for her lack of boundaries.

mindyourown1 · 16/07/2014 12:37

I think you are making excuses for her - she is not the innocent victim in all of this. She didn't have an affair with a married man out of kindness, I mean she wasn't showing his wife any kindness either.

I think you are blaming yourself for your insecurity, when the issue here is she is not trustworthy.

EveMarieSaint · 16/07/2014 12:39

Has she said she wants to be friends with this man?

Not only is it insensitive to you but it reveals even more of an astonishing, disrespectful attitude towards this man's cheated wife.

Forget him and his alleged manipulation. It is her you are with, and she sounds like a real piece of work.

Phalenopsis · 16/07/2014 12:55

Your partner OP, was having an affair with someone who was married to someone else. How can that inspire confidence? How can you say that she is nice? And how can she justify this 'friends' bollocks?

The fact is that whether your partner is male or female, she has knowingly had an affair. She has ridden roughshod over the feelings of the spouse. How on earth can you feel confident in your relationship with her?

You're 3 months in. Get rid of her and eventually you'll meet someone who is worthy of you. You are not supposed to be feeling insecure like this in relationships.

CoffeeTea103 · 16/07/2014 13:49

It seems as you are the one who is extremely naive and gullible. You say she is so sweet and doesn't want to hurt anyone. So what's the wife and 3 children then? Besides that, it takes two to have an affair so painting him as manipulative and her some innocent wallflower really makes you sound ridiculous. I would be done with her, she failed to mention a very big part of what's going on - she is still working with the person where she was the other woman! Confused

Fontella · 16/07/2014 13:57

Fair point. Sweet and naive I'd say. He spun the usual stuff about being in a miserable marriage with a wife who hated him etc. She was miserable at work. They got together. She jumped ship when he said he wanted to leave his wife.

That makes her worse in my book. So she was ok shagging him when he had a wife and kids at home and was cheating on them with her, but once he decided he was going to leave the wife, your girlfriend 'jumped ship'.
She doesn't sound naive to me in the slightest. And most definitely not sweet.

I'm starting to agree with the others here that you are the one who sounds naive. Anyone who can shag a married man with children, for six months and then as soon as the bloke says he's coming clean, your girlfriend bales? She also now 'feels sorry' for him and thinks he needs friends? What about his poor wife and kids? Doesn't she 'feel sorry' for them? Doesn't she feel any guilt or remorse for what she did to them - because regardless of what kind of man he is - affairs require two participants and your 'sweet and naive girlfriend' was one of them.

3PacketsOfCrisps · 16/07/2014 16:30

I don't see why past mistakes should affect the current relationship. She ended things.

If I was having an affair and it ended, then my husband found out and was about to cause holy mother of hell, I would alsoprobably contact the other man/woman.

How friendly are they? I am friends with most exes.

I would probably reighn yourself in a little bit and try to get to know her a bit more, talk to her friends perhaps?

She didn't have to tell you about that affair but she did.

3PacketsOfCrisps · 16/07/2014 16:30

3 months isn't an awful long time at all. I have been shat on from a massively great height after 3 months in a relationship

3PacketsOfCrisps · 16/07/2014 16:31

I would be done with her, she failed to mention a very big part of what's going on

She told her gf before all this happened

AnyFucker · 16/07/2014 16:34

Take all the genders and same sex/different sex combinations out of this and you have OP in a relationship with a person who is still too close to someone they had an affair with and displaying some worryingly untrustworthy behaviours

Run for the hills, I say

Viviennemary · 16/07/2014 16:37

Well it does sound like a bit of a tangled web. But anyone who knowingly has an affair with a married person or somebody in a secure relationship has to be a bit suspect. IMHO.

Johnogroats · 16/07/2014 16:40

I have a friend who is in a bucket at the moment. Her DH of 12 years has left her for an ex he first met over 25 years ago. You are right to be wary.

mrsbrownsgirls · 16/07/2014 16:41

say to your DP " please would you restrict your dealings with Mr Older to those of an employee . I am not happy with you being pals with him "

InsecureAffair · 16/07/2014 16:41

She's been totally upfront about all of this (though frankly, it'd have been easier for me if she hadn't been). She's hidden nothing. She hasn't lied to me.

I suppose it's hard to separate the boss/former lover aspect. She has to deal with him on a daily basis until she moves jobs. If, after that, then she has little to do with him, then I wouldn't judge her for making a mistake and getting involved with him. But because she is in daily contact, then I don't know what to think or feel. Other than confused.

I am friendly with a lot of my exes too. I suppose, though, I don't speak to them on a daily basis because I never slept with my boss Confused.

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