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Oh my good god.

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Abitmeh · 20/06/2014 23:13

I have met a man - got on very, very well etc. So much so that we've arranged to see each other again very soon and have been talking a lot. Very respectful of me etc. But I've just seen his FB page (I don't do FB really but he said he's on it tonight, so I went to have a look).

He has shared Britain First posters on it. I'm shocked. These are a racist, far right group. I've texted him and asked him if he believes in all that shit. He said he hates violence of all kinds but believes people living in this culture should respect their culture and beliefs. Also that he's dated women from all over the world but that we should shut the floodgates to immigration.

I am shocked. Are you? Is it me?

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stopbeingsilly · 21/06/2014 08:40

Rebecca2014 judgemental leftie? ODFOD. You're making huge assumptions. Total leftie here but, as far as I'm aware, Tories and other folk on the rightwards end of the spectrum can still demonstrate against the BNP, EDL or any similar hideous racist groups as the OP has said. Really childish and offensive simplification of UK politics, well done.

BoreOfWhabylon · 21/06/2014 08:42

From Wikipedia

"Britain First was created by Jim Dowson, who ran a call centre in Dundonald, East Belfast for the British National Party (BNP). Dowson's links with the BNP as a fundraiser ended acrimoniously in October 2010 when he was accused of groping a female activist.

Dowson, a former Calvinist minister, is a Scottish Christian fundamentalist. Based in Ballygowan, Northern Ireland, he also led an anti-abortion campaign, the UK Life League.

Other former officials from the British National Party joined Dowson in the formation of Britain First. Its current chairman Paul Golding, had been a councillor in Sevenoaks, Kent, in 2009-11 representing the BNP, as well as the BNP's Communications Officer. Britain First was launched through the "British Resistance" website in May 2011. Others involved in Britain First's launch included the former South East regional organiser of the BNP, Andy McBride, and Kevin Edwards, a former BNP councillor and organiser in Wales."

Lucky escape, OP.

BoreOfWhabylon · 21/06/2014 08:46

Policies (Wikipedia again)

"Britain First's stated aim is to protect "British and Christian morality",and is "committed to preserving our ancestral ethnic and cultural heritage" while it also "supports the maintenance of the indigenous British people as the demographic majority within our own homeland", that "Genuine British citizens will be put first in housing, jobs, education, welfare and health".

It also campaigns against Islam, immigration and abortion. Its claimed objective is "to save this country and our people from the EU, politically correct, multicultural insanity that is now engulfing us".

EhricLovesTheBhrothers · 21/06/2014 09:10

Rebecca, I'd dump someone for voting or sympathising with UKIP no doubt about it.

Judgemental lefties should probably date other judgemental lefties don't you think? :)

Abitmeh · 21/06/2014 09:17

Thank you.

I have had a torrent of texts and an email. He's very upset that his political views have so offended me that I've dumped him. He feels awful to know that he 'made' me feel sick. He knows I will be feeling crap too (and he's right but that doesn't make a difference to my decision).

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Abitmeh · 21/06/2014 09:22

And I've just visited his FB page again to make absolutely sure I was right. HE, not some spammy type thing, has posted tons of BF posters on his timeline. I didn't see them all last night I was shocked enough at the one I did.

They are truly disgusting. Really shocking.

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CookieDoughKid · 21/06/2014 10:06

Thank you for the update!! Keep strong!!

Scarletohello · 21/06/2014 10:11

Just proves you did the right thing in dumping him so soon. Lucky you saw them really before things got more involved.

msrisotto · 21/06/2014 10:13

I hope this shocks him into at least considering why his views caused this reaction. I'm sorry for your disappointment op.

Abitmeh · 21/06/2014 10:19

He said (in one text) he was thinking maybe I'd been looking for a way out. But this wasn't a one date wonder. It had been going on for a while with me taking each contact as a reason for the next.

I'm not compromisng. He can think what he likes.

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Hurr1cane · 21/06/2014 10:20

I'd have dumped him as well, and have done in the past.

slugseatlettuce · 21/06/2014 10:26

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Abitmeh · 21/06/2014 10:29

Well, he's floundering around, as am I slug. But the fact remains that, when push comes to shove, we'd be on opposing battle lines with a line of riot police between us - been there.

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expatinscotland · 21/06/2014 10:31

Yuk. Dump. I dated one of these 'old fashioned values' creeps once. He was a twunt. He saw women as a business deal for him that he controlled.

ChelsyHandy · 21/06/2014 10:32

I think you overreacted. Its only Facebook. People share all sorts of stupid, cringeworthy stuff on Facebook, perhaps not expecting to be policed by the self appointed moral guardians of our nation. When you asked him to explain his views he said He said he hates violence of all kinds but believes people living in this culture should respect their culture and beliefs. Also that he's dated women from all over the world but that we should shut the floodgates to immigration which is actually very mainstream. Very few people in this country believe in totally uncontrolled immigration, as opposed for example to restricting it to reasons of persecution or abuse of human rights.

I prefer to judge people by how they behave and what they do rather than what they post on Facebook.

Still, YANBU if you just don't like him that much overall and you aren't one of those people who thinks others should pretend to be very right on just to give a fake image on Facebook.

And before I get accused of being racist, I recently lived with a man from Nigeria and signed his application for a UK passport, who also had very mainstream views as regarding limiting immigration into the UK.

Abitmeh · 21/06/2014 10:32

I guess it makes a change from "I visited his FB page and saw pictures of him and his wife and kids".

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BonjourMinou · 21/06/2014 10:33

Ugh I'd have got rid too, you did well OP. Maybe he'll re-think his disgusting views and stop posting Britain First rubbish to his timeline. Can't stand that group.

KatieKaye · 21/06/2014 10:37

well done for dumping this bigot.
I've no time for such views either and treat them with the contempt they deserve.
Hope you find a decent guy!

Abitmeh · 21/06/2014 10:37

Chelsey thank you for your contribution.

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MasqueradeWaltzer · 21/06/2014 10:39

If he's definitely on board with them then yes, I'd want nothing further to do with him.

There was a kerfuffle on facebook a fortnight ago, though, when lots of people innocently shared some of their D-Day posts without realising what they stood for. One of my friends was caught out and was mortified when she realised.

LastTango · 21/06/2014 10:42

Well said Chelsey - you put it all far better than I would have been able.

FabULouse · 21/06/2014 10:44

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Abitmeh · 21/06/2014 10:44

This was more than the DDay posters. It was out-and-out racist shit. The fact that he 'sees people as people' and abhors violence doesn't mean a thing when he's posting stuff with such consistency.

i was tempted to mail him and ask him what the women he'd dated from all over world would say about that stuff. But, whatever, I haven't really got any interest in engaging further with him.

Thanks again.

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Abitmeh · 21/06/2014 10:46

I'm happy to engage in a political debate about UKIP with folk. Britain First are a whole different ball-game and I'm now thinking that maybe I shouldn't even be giving them the oxygen they'd love.

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kaykayblue · 21/06/2014 10:55

Ewwwwwwwwwww. So he isn't racist because he has had sex with non white women? Oh, okay then.

This man sounds utterly repulsive.

You are well rid of him. I hope you made it clear why you dumped him as well.