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No-one believes me

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someonebelieveme · 13/06/2014 21:17

Ok I have name changed because I post regularly and I wanted to keep this separate to my usual identity.
A few years ago I got together with my DH and his parents had made it clear they weren't too happy, in particular my MIL. There wasn't any real reason for it but they have a family business and his parents benefit a lot from this business, they wanted DH to continue working there without distractions. He met me when he had split with his previous wife and they hated her. I am not from the UK and have always wanted to move back home so I suppose that was part of their problem with me.
Anyway, I worked very hard to form a close relationship with my MIL, I desperately wanted her to like me and she can be very intimidating.
Things were going well and we were quite close and I was happy.
Then we got engaged and she wasn't overjoyed exactly, nevertheless we carried on going for lunch and spending time together.
Just before the wedding there were problems in the business and they were arguing (DH and PIL) and she phoned me and went crazy on the phone to me about something trivial to do with the guest list for the wedding. I didn't argue back but calmly stood my ground. To be honest I was very shocked because I knew nothing about the arguing between them that went on and it felt like she took this out on me.
From that point on she changed and was frosty towards me. Now I will be honest and say I was very intimidated by her and scared of doing or saying the wrong thing. I wanted her to like me, I loved this woman and was so proud of the relationship we'd had.
Then she had suspected cancer so the whole arguing thing understandable took a back seat as it obviously should. I phoned her at the start and although I tried smooth things over it was so awkward. She just didn't want to know and every time I suggested I come with her to this appointment or we go for lunch or shopping etc she turned me down.
In the end I was very aware she had no interest in sorting things out with me and yes, I know she had other much more important things on her mind but I wanted to support her and be there for her and put our stupid row behind us BECAUSE this was so much more important.
I just wanted to be there for her.
But she blocked me at every turn.
I am deeply ashamed of the fact that I was so intimidated by her that in the end I resorted to texting rather than phoning, she ignored every single text. I texted her the night she went into hospital to say I loved her and was thinking of her. No reply.
We went to see her a couple of days after her operation and it was strained but I took her flowers and bits and pieces. She was politely frosty with me.
When she came home I didn't know what to do because she was making it very clear she wanted nothing to do with me and I didn't want to upset her further so I texted again to say did she need anything, if she did to let me know I'd be right over. No reply.
Then the days became a week and I didn't know what to do. DH wasn't much use and things with MIL were becoming more and more awkward.
Then DH shouted at me one night that MIL was upset because I never phoned or got in touch and hadn't been to see her. WTF.
So I went to see her and mentioned gently that I had texted etc but was scared of intruding on her space and that things had been so awkward because of this silly row. She was really pleasant while everyone was there. When they weren't - not so much.
It was pretty surreal to me because I knew that as pitiful as my efforts had been, I had tried and she had either declined any offers of days out/help/anything or just ignored them and was now denying that I had been in touch at all. I know she got my texts btw.
It turned out she didn't have cancer but that's irrelevant because for the time in hospital we all thought she did, I just mentioned that because she is ok and that's wonderful.
But everything else isn't wonderful.
She drip feeds DSS all the time with little nasty things about how useless I am etc.
There has been nothing but awkwardness and unpleasantness since and everyone believes that I am a heartless bitch who ignored my MIL when she thought she had cancer. Except I know I didn't and so does she.
I had a major operation last year and I didn't hear from her once before the op,during my stay in hospital or after.
Given that I know she is lying that I didn't contact her it didn't surprise me but she made a point of taking ex DIL for lunch the week I got home. This is the DIL she hated btw. Now she is wonderful of course.
I am no angel, but I know I am no monster.
Even to this very day I would love nothing more than for things to go back to how they were when we got along. Except now I think things were just a ticking time bomb and my days with her were numbered.

My DF has cancer and during a silly row with DH tonight I said I didn't want to argue and I had enough on right now because of my DF.
He screamed at me that his DM had cancer and because of the disgusting way I treated her by ignoring her and never contacting her his whole family was now destroyed and that they hated me.
This guts me because I know I did get in touch (and yes I know texts are a rubbish way to contact anyone but I just didn't want to make anything worse and guess what, I did anyway) and she has denied it and makes me look like a liar.
Nobody believes me and that hurts so much.
I just wanted to tell someone because it hurts that everyone thinks I am this cold monster and all I want is things back to how they were.
I know I tried, and sadly I know that whatever I try it won't make any difference.
So sorry for the essay Sad

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EhricLovesTheBhrothers · 13/06/2014 21:34

Your husband thinks you are lying about contacting her? That's a big part of your problem.

someonebelieveme · 13/06/2014 21:38

Yes I know Sad
I felt he was behind me until this stupid row tonight and then all this came out from him. I'm sat here in shock at the moment and we are not speaking, I don't even know what to say to him about this.
I have thought about it a lot recently what with my DF having cancer and it took me back to when MIL thought she had it and how I've regretted not doing things better and how odd it is that she lied about the pathetic contact I did make.
I've read Toxic Inlaws and know that there wasn't anything really I could have done from the start to make them like me, it's just how things are, doesn't mean I don't wish things could be different though.

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Pimpf · 13/06/2014 21:42

But surely you have the texts on your phone so you can show him

someonebelieveme · 13/06/2014 21:45

No I don't Sad I changed my phone last year when I upgraded it and wiped the handset before my DS had it. I thought DH knew I'd tried so I didn't think I had a problem on that score. I knew MIL knew the truth and that she was denying it but I thought DH and I were strong and united. Guess I was very wrong about that eh?

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MajesticWhine · 13/06/2014 21:46

I expect it is very stressful, with you worried about your DF and your DH worried about his DM. So neither of you will be communicating very well when emotions are running so high. Your DH is being ridiculous for suggesting his family is now destroyed and blaming you. This sounds like one of those crazy things people say in an argument.

But it seems you are very drawn to these people who treat you so badly. Not everyone needs to love you. This MIL sounds utterly toxic. I'm guessing here, but it seems she cannot bear her baby boy to be married and have someone more important in his life than her, so you just have to expect that she will be a bitch and stop hoping for any sort of relationship. So yes, when you say whatever you try, it won't make a difference, sadly that is probably true. But if your DH cannot work out that he needs to back you up over his family, then you have a bigger problem.

Cabrinha · 13/06/2014 21:51

You don't need evidence for your HUSBAND. If your husband can't take your word for it, I'm sorry, but your marriage is dead in the water.

You tried too hard with MIL from the beginning. Why did you try so hard to ingratiate yourself? Next time, be polite and don't try to force a friendship. And I do think there should be a next time... Your husband sounds like an unsupportive arsehole. Ditch him and his lying bitch of a mother.

whewjuice · 13/06/2014 21:51

It sounds like you married into such a horrible family! I would say you did everything you possibly could to get along with her stop feeling guilty and stop trying! It sounds like she gets some enjoyment from treating you so horribly and unfairly. I know you want to get along for your DH sake but even he doesn't sound very nice if you ask me.

Cabrinha · 13/06/2014 21:53

And when you say you LOVED this bitch of a woman, really? You love someone who despite spending time lunching with you, wasn't happy about you marrying her son?
Next time, don't give your love so easily. Wait for people to deserve it.

someonebelieveme · 13/06/2014 21:56

MIL is now fine health wise but has been problematic in other ways which DH was very aware of, he has commented before on his parents ability to rewrite history so I was so shocked when he screamed at me tonight about MIL and his family. He blames me for the friction in his family and this certainly hasn't helped but it's always been there. With his first wife she was the same and has a very unhealthy (IMO) attachment to DSS.
I agree I have a bigger problem than MIL. I feel gutted about that.

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BolshierAyraStark · 13/06/2014 21:57

Funny that she didn't like Ex-DIL & now doesn't like you don't you think? Hmm

She's got a desperate need to hold on to her pathetic son & it seems he's a mummy's boy. I feel for you, I really do. Not a situation, or man, I would tolerate. I'm sorry.

SolidGoldBrass · 13/06/2014 22:00

Look, these people are horrible. There is no need to love them. Why would you love people who are unkind to you?

tribpot · 13/06/2014 22:00

Even if he felt you had behaved badly during the cancer scare, why would he bring that up when your father has just been diagnosed with actual cancer? Could he be any less supportive??

Besides which - it was your DH's job to stay in touch with his own mother during her cancer scare, not yours. You're just been made a scapegoat because you've been too compliant to tell them to go fuck themselves to date.

I'd make it very clear:

  • you did contact your MIL and you are not interested in further 'discussion' on the subject. He can choose to believe whoever he likes
  • the subject is completely irrelevant whilst you are focusing on dealing with your own father, he can choose to support you through or he can fuck off back to mummy.
someonebelieveme · 13/06/2014 22:01

I'm reading these responses crying my eyes out.
I know I tried too hard with her but I genuinely thought I could win her round. I thought I had. I did love the person I thought she was before it all went sour.
We were supposed to be doing a hobby we share tomorrow DH and I, we have a child free weekend but now it's horrendous. He just came in to say he is going on this activity on his own and I said I won't be here when he gets back, if he can't believe me then we have no relationship, he said that's fine.

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someonebelieveme · 13/06/2014 22:03

For the record MIL now says she did have cancer (she didn't I remember her telling me that. What she has is a condition that can cause problems but it isn't cancer)

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Helpys · 13/06/2014 22:03

Your self esteem is so low. Sad
They're really not very nice people OP, yet you've blamed yourself.
Get counselling and get out.
Flowers

someonebelieveme · 13/06/2014 22:04

And yes I know they are horrible. But I love DH and wanted it to work so badly.

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PinkSquash · 13/06/2014 22:04

Your husband is being as much of a wanker as your MIL.

What a horrible family. Cut your losses and run because you will always be the scapegoat

Cabrinha · 13/06/2014 22:08

Oh love, I'm sorry if I'm part of making you cry... I didn't mean it to sound so critical, I'm critical of them not you! Trying so hard with her was a lovely thing to do, you sound like a really caring person.
Which just makes it worse to imagine you trying so hard when they (sorry, including your husband) are not worth it.

holeinmyheart · 13/06/2014 22:12

Oh SOBM you sound so lovely. This woman will be very sorry for her behaviour towards you as in the future when she gets older and frailer she will need your compassion.etc. As a MIL and a DIL myself , all I can tell you is to bide your time and try not to take what is going on to heart. My MIL was vile to me (still is) but I have remained polite and tried not to take her jibes personally. I married her son and we are happy, and by being happy I consider I am taking revenge on her. Although my DH does not take my side because she cunningly does not do anything in front of him. I try not to think about that because she is his Mother and he loves her. Your MIL will be jealous of you as mine is, and very insecure herself to behave so badly. The worse thing is your husband not believing you and that is very sad. However I believe you, and all the Mums Netters will, so just tell us about her. Just work on being positive and happy with your DH and don't try any more with her ,just be polite, as you have been busting your guts to please someone who obviously is very ungrateful. Is it the end of the world if you don't see much of her? Won't you be really relieved? I do feel a bit smug that I am going to get all MIL 's money via my husband which will compensate me for all the slights over the years. When I go to hers , as she is now very frail,( except her mouth is not frail, ) I keep thinking, ha ! ha! I am going to get your money, and when I get it I am going to spend it outrageously wastefully! It is wicked of me I know but her behaviour has caused my indifference. Eventually when you are further into your marriage, you will become indifferent to her. Best way to be.

ThePinkOcelot · 13/06/2014 22:22

Tell him to fuck off and do it on his own!! What does he mean when he gets back you are not to be there?! Tell him not to bother coming back!! You know you bothered with his cow of a mother, let them all get on with it. Bunch of arseholes. Your H being the biggest!

someonebelieveme · 13/06/2014 22:31

I reduced contact with her after my operation because while I was recovering I read on here about the Toxic Inlaws book and realised I had to stop trying with her and it would never have worked with her anyway. It was a relief to read that it wasn't really me but her.
DH knows what she is like (at least I thought he did) and I thought we were on the same page although I understood she is his DM and he loves her.
Putting distance between us seemed to make her worse though and she has been stepping things up. It's been hard and lonely.
Everyone's kind words have meant a lot because I've truly felt alone in this even though I thought DH were united in this. Now I know we aren't and there is no way back from that is there? Sad

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shellistar · 13/06/2014 23:13

I'm really sorry that I don't have anything to add that anyone else hasn't covered but I hope you're ok.

Have you got itemised phone bills at all? Mine is all online and I can go back to the start of the contract. I know you shouldn't have to do this but if offering the proof would give you a little bit of piece of mind then go for it.

BerylStreep · 13/06/2014 23:24

Stop trying with her - she is not your responsibility.

Ditch your husband. How very dare he!

tribpot · 13/06/2014 23:41

Would you honestly treat a person you loved the way your DH has treated you today? Your father has been ACTUALLY DIAGNOSED with cancer. And he's made it all about his mother. Spend some time on your own this weekend and figure out what you want and need. You. Not him.

BolshierAyraStark · 13/06/2014 23:55

Right, an going to say so that you can understand it

Your husband is a worthless waste of fucking space.

Ditch the fucking idiot & I'm certain your self esteem will start to make a reappearance!