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5 non negotiables

46 replies

nocturnal123 · 20/05/2014 08:04

When you were looking to start a new relationship did you have 5 non negotiables and did you stick to them ? eg new person must have a job

OP posts:
CogitoErgoSometimes · 20/05/2014 08:07

Nothing quite so rigid but I think 'employed' and 'solvent' would be fairly basic for me. Get to my age and you can't afford to be too fussy :)

ThatBloodyWoman · 20/05/2014 08:08

I will go out alone.
I will choose my own friends.
I will hold my own pollitical views.
I will eat how I want.
I will look how I want.

A man's characteristics are either attractive or not.

It's my requirements for my independence of him that are non negotiable!

UncrushedParsley · 20/05/2014 08:12

Employed
Pulse Grin
Not telling me what to do
Kind to DD
Kind to animals
Nice to people generally
Not sexually selfish

BitOutOfPractice · 20/05/2014 08:15

When I was online I did have a list Blush

  • sense of humour
  • conversation
  • solvent
  • kind
  • not a minger

I took the bit about respect and allowing me my own life / thoughts / independence as a given because I wouldn't go beyond 2nd date with a man who displayed any red flags of that kind.

ThePrisonerOfAzkaban · 20/05/2014 08:18

Can drive
Own his own car
Not live with parents
Be a lovely person
Except me for me

CheesyBadger · 20/05/2014 08:20

No, but I knew what I liked in a person and when I met my dp I liked more than I didn't.

As the years have gone on I have realised what my non negotiables are

ThatBloodyWoman · 20/05/2014 08:21

Good point Bit !

In that case, I will go on to:

Isn't status orientated
Isn't money orientated
Kind (to people and animals)
In tune with the environment
Free thinking

nomorequotes · 20/05/2014 08:22
  • Want similar things out of life
  • Happy for me to raise our children/work/study as I see fit and as the wind takes me (reciprocated of course)
  • Must be career minded, have something that they are working towards and able to support a family with, good work ethic basically but focussed.
  • Must be the same level of clean and tidy as me (not very) and understanding of bad days/good days etc
  • Must be sensitive to my personal mental needs and stresses, however irrational they may be, must never hold a grudge but work towards making things better.
BitOutOfPractice · 20/05/2014 08:25

I might add that he needed to have similar family values to mine. I don't think I could love / respect a man who had children but didn't have much / anything to do with them.

flipchart · 20/05/2014 08:25

Respectable to other people
Generous. Both with time and money
Intelligent
Takes pride in himself ( and his family)
Not uptight

I didn't have these non negotiables but I ended up with a husband who has the above traits. He's bloody lovely!!

mammadiggingdeep · 20/05/2014 08:37

-same family values
-same level of 'get up and go'
-affectionate
-non controlling
-allow me to be independent
-faithful
-loyal

Can you see what went wrong in my previous relationship?? Haha...I know it's more that 5 but I could go on and on. Looks are not so important now, my ex was gorgeous (on the outside). Inner beauty is much more important to me now.

kentishgirl · 20/05/2014 08:47

After my last 'opposites attract' car crash of a relationship, mine was to find pretty much a boy version of me (and I have).

mammadiggingdeep · 20/05/2014 08:48

Flip chart...your dh sounds great :) good for you

grumpasaur · 20/05/2014 08:57

For me, they were:

Honest
Loyal
Clever
Funny
Gentle

KoalaDownUnder · 20/05/2014 09:05

Kind
Intelligent
Loyal
Funny
Good communicator

grumpasaur, looks like great minds think alike!

Now I just have to bloody find him...Grin

meditrina · 20/05/2014 09:17

I've never really thought about it in those terms, because in choosing a partner you are looking at the whole person - a bit like choosing the most appetising set menu rather than having full a la carte, but even in that metaphor you'd swerve the menu which included things you're intolerant of or just loathe. So on that basis, and in no particular order:

a) genuinely single (and demonstrably so - meeting friends/family reasonably early on)
b) no history of criminality, gambling, drug use
c) polite (waitress test etc) and reliable (not inexplicably late/offhand or game-playing)
d) kind and friendly
e) good communication

BitOutOfPractice · 20/05/2014 09:50

Reading this it seems it boils down to the same for everyone

Kind, respectful, good communicator, gsoh, solvent

I notice we have all been too polite to say "great in bed" but tbh that's another non-negotiable for me.

nocturnal123 · 20/05/2014 10:01

I like your replies

Adding having a "job" may not apply if you are; a student, retired etc.

Would these be non negotiables ? religion, culture, baggage

If you are looking for 5 non negotiables, what 5 non negotiables are you going to give the new person in return ?

OP posts:
meditrina · 20/05/2014 10:01

It's not politeness - it's because I think two people with a good attitude to each other will work out their sex life OK. Though I suppose if there's zero 'spark' that would be a deal breaker, as would a major difference on attitudes to fidelity.

squeezycheeseplease · 20/05/2014 10:08

Doesn't gamble, use drugs, or smoke

Doesn't use porn at all and has decided that, objectively, before he met me

Clever/intelligent

Not religious

Kind and funny (funny to me Grin )

I think everything else can change - job wouldn't matter as that is temporary or could be life stage, for example. I didn't know what my 'position' on kids was when we met, so wouldn't have known what I was looking for there. I'm not sure what my list would have been when we met (years and years and years ago) apart from (2) as that's always been a deal breaker.

MissPennySweet · 20/05/2014 10:24

Kind
Generous
Solvent
Good in bed
Attractive

In that order. I like to think I can offer all those things Grin

BitOutOfPractice · 20/05/2014 11:38

Religiin, culture, baggage - I suppose it depends to what extent doesn't it?

If he was an evangelical born again Christian I might find that hard to take. But not if the contrast wasn't so extreme

What do you mean by baggage? Having kids is nota problem. A spent conviction for murder might be!

And meditrina I disagree. Some people are just crap in bed and no amount of "work" helps. Some people are just incompatible sexually.

What 5 do I give in return?

Loyalty
Fun
Hard working
Kind
Great head Wink

nomorequotes · 20/05/2014 11:42

I think you learn each other so being great in bed is not necessarily a must immediately.

SelectAUserName · 20/05/2014 11:49

I could only be with someone who is:

Kind and gentle
Liberal thinker
Non-smoker/-drug-taker/-gambler
Loyal and supportive
Animal lover

Offred · 20/05/2014 12:42

Equality
Respect
Honesty
Maturity
Self-awareness

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