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Need advice re sister.

113 replies

CailinDana · 11/04/2014 16:33

My older sister lives abroad with my parents. We were close when we were very little but after my younger sister was born she changed a lot and bullied both of me and YS pretty much continuously until we left home. YS hates her.
We had a rubbish childhood for various reasons and our parents, while competent from a practical point of view were shit at the important things in parenting. Both YS and I "escaped" but OS is still at home and struggling (lost her job, depressed, friendless). She contacted me recently (first time in about 6 months) to say she wants to come here to participate in a clinical trial for treatment for a minor but persistent medical condition. She wants to stay with me.
I'm torn. I think she is using the trial as an excuse to escape from the miserable life at home and is trying to latch onto me. I felt very angry at her for years but that has waned (possibly due to how seldom I see her) and now I feel sorry for her. I was sexually abused as a child and I suspect she may have been too. I alsi think she has a social disorder.
It feels like she's reaching out to me for help and I feel a sort of duty to help her as I know my parents never will. But she is an extremely selfish and difficult person and the thought if having her in my house for more than a few days fills me with dread.
As a preview of what I can expect should she come over, she asked me to go with her every day to the treatment; which involves driving for over an hour with two small children and waiting with them indefinitely. Bear in mind she is not disabled in any way. She was clearly put out when I said no to that.

So I am torn between my "duty" as a sister and protecting myself from her. Any thoughts?

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CailinDana · 11/04/2014 23:23

God she's a classic - she brought up the kids and " how will I be in their life if you don't want me around?"She has no interedt in the kids. She then said "tell them I love them and I'll see them soon." My reply was "will do. Goodnight." Oh and now I get "you don't want to patch things up?"
I think having this exchange with her is helpful, seeing her manipulation in black and white reminds me what she's really like.

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Preciousbane · 11/04/2014 23:24

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Walkacrossthesand · 11/04/2014 23:30

Cailin, this will all be sooo worthwhile when she is having her treatment/whatever it is , and not staying with you, expecting lifts, winding you up day in day out - it is so worth the stressful exchanges now, to buy the peace that will follow! You're doing so well to offer her these unexpected (to her) responses, and to be able to see how she's twisting and turning to try and get her own way. Well done!

CailinDana · 11/04/2014 23:45

Thanks walkacross. To the "patch things up" message I replied "patch what up? We don't have a relationship. You only text me to criticise or ask a favour. I just said I don't want you staying with me which is normal for two people who don't really get on."
To which she replied.. Ok I'll leave you alone.

Too good to be true??

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Goldmandra · 11/04/2014 23:54

Well done for sticking to your guns.

I doubt if she'll let this go.

You'll probably get an onslaught of how hurt she is now. Turn your phone off for tonight.

Tomorrow only respond with messages about making plans to meet up once she's over here. Don't get sucked into any debates about your relationship or who did what and certainly don't respond to any more questions about her staying with you. Just blank them totally.

It probably feels a bit crappy as well as quite liberating. Don't let yourself go soft on her. You've taken control and reset the tone. Now maintain it.

CookieMonsterIsHot · 11/04/2014 23:54

I like your last message a lot.

Maybe she will back off from this battle now she knows you won't cave in.

PlantsAndFlowers · 12/04/2014 00:25

Well done!

Hissy · 12/04/2014 08:16

Wonder if you'll get the 'but i'm your sister!' text...

Just ignore her now.

Chances are she'll cut you off again. #JobDone

LookHowTheyShineForYou · 12/04/2014 09:04

Well done Flowers

DustBunnyFarmer · 12/04/2014 09:19

Well done. I especially like your last text. Keep playing with a straight bat in this manner and she'll quickly realise it's not working/get bored.

littlemrschatterbox · 12/04/2014 10:49

Well done. Brilliant reply.

Always good to check in with you heart when confronted with a decision. So, when she asks to stay and your heart sinks you know you are making the right decision when you say no. Stick to your guns and do what is right for you and your family.

CailinDana · 12/04/2014 11:22

There was another message : I'm not welcome in your house, message received. I'll make sure not to be around when you visit, I wouldn't want to make anyone feel uncomfortable.

Fuckwit. I'm just going to ignore.

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PlantsAndFlowers · 12/04/2014 11:32

She's deliberately exaggerating what you said in order to prompt a reply denying that you said any such thing. Very manipulative. I'd be tempted to send a simple 'Thank you', but you're right, ignoring would probably be best.

Goldmandra · 12/04/2014 11:32

She's determined isn't she?

DonkeysDontRideBicycles · 12/04/2014 11:46

Deep sigh and ignore. That six months she wasn't in contact probably flew by.

Scrounger · 12/04/2014 11:54

CookieMonster

So, how did not causing upset at the first interaction work out for you?

I speak from bitter, bitter experience: with toxic people the pain will come, the sooner you get it over with, the easier it is on everyone.

This is such good advice, I'm going to take it.

OP, well done. Her texts are a masterclass in manipulation and plainly show what her motives are. Watch out for your parents getting involved in also.

CailinDana · 12/04/2014 11:58

Yup. She does this every couple of years and I get sucked in. Not this time.

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CailinDana · 12/04/2014 12:04

I think my mother knows better than to get involved. What pisses me off is that I'm seen as the problematic one. But I have to just accept that.

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waltermittymissus · 12/04/2014 12:08

Yes!!!

Stand firm. I'm delighted you did this!

Hissy · 12/04/2014 12:16

It doesn't matter what your parents think tbh. Your sister has been idiotic and mean and cruel to you, and they've supported that somehow.

You see her texts for what they are, a pathetic attempt to haul you back in.

CailinDana · 12/04/2014 12:26

Tbh the thing that's precipitated me wanting to just tell her to fuck off is my YS. I've been away from her for a long time so it's easy to forget what she's really like. But my YS left home only recently and genuinely hates her. OS and I are close in age so you could see our problems as normal sibling rivalry. But YS is 8 years younger and OS made her life hell. YS is just in the process of dealing with all the family shit and seeing her go through that has reminded me just how fucked up OS is.

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Goldmandra · 12/04/2014 12:51

What pisses me off is that I'm seen as the problematic one.

No surprise there. Are you ready for your parents to get fed up of her drama and start putting pressure on you to do what she wants? That is the next step I'd expect.

I'm glad you've got your YS. You can support each other through this and keep the overall perspective intact. If you feel yourself faltering contact her.

DwellsUndertheSink · 12/04/2014 13:09

"Are you ready for your parents to get fed up of her drama and start putting pressure on you to do what she wants? " - goldmandra has predicted phase 2! I bet your parents were looking forward to 6 months (possibly forever) off. They have a vested interest in getting rid of the freeloading drama llama.

Stand strong OP. I agree with "with toxic people the pain will come, the sooner you get it over with, the easier it is on everyone" - so, so true. Since I ripped off my family bandaid, I have a better relationship with DH and DC. My DC feel no need of dramatic aunties trying to make them feel embarrassed of their mum, and sticking the knife in about their dad.

CailinDana · 12/04/2014 13:38

Ugh just had a barrage of criticism. I replied "that's fine. I don't need you to like me. I'm happy with who I am." It's very hard not to defend myself!

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DonkeysDontRideBicycles · 12/04/2014 14:07

If she is texting then for your sanity Step Away From Your Mobile.

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